In this episode we find out if TOWTM finds love.....
...ok not really. Enjoy!
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In this episode we find out if TOWTM finds love.....
...ok not really. Enjoy!
Ah...its lonesome at the top...i can empathize with him..nobody to share all your hopes and dreams with...just a bunch of random snarling people around you..just waiting for that moment when somebody, anybody appears and stands out from the crowd...and hopefully does not smell like dookie....sounds like everyday of me life.
:hsugh:
TOWTM + Scratch = Love :D
I wonder if Michael will create a Zack for KODI
I can see that working like Dead Ash and the Possessed Princess in Army of Darkness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
I think I had a daydream about an epic battle between the two; something akin to Predator 2, but instead of Danny Glover, it would be Jenna McCombie vs. the Predator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
Are we also going talk about KC Season Finale Spoiler? ;-)
Arrrggg....why don't these come out Sunday night....I have no available network connection to download to my iPad while at work so I have to wait until I get home at 6, and then I get no peace until around 9 or 10 pm to listen to it while it seems everyone else has listened and are already commenting (it gets hard not reading these and spoiling it for myself), its just not fair I tell ya...but I do enjoy my Monday nights.
One hour and one minute till it's available for download. Those early releases have spoiled me.
KC says he has not watched The Walking Dead, and this weeks sponsor talks about The Walking Dead. LOL! and Adult Friend Finder.. KC you naughty man!
Interesting ...
... we learned a lot about ... things ... !
Oh, Michael ... What are you doin', you crazy mad-head???
All the best!
Liam
Good episode. Why do they all seem so shorth though? I think it is awesome that Micheal grew a set of balls on this one. Eventually you have to start analyzing what you are up against if you expect to defeat it. I was kind of hoping they would find Kimmets neice tied down and changed though.. oh well. Awesome on the use of a Blackhawk with a mini-gun, that made me smile.
#2 is cold resistant and semi-bullet resistant, thats an interesting twist.
Now to listen again!
Looks like kudos are in order for Comrade Narf. I just listened to WND #44, where he predicted that the Season Finale would involve a threat to Boulder. Now we know how that could happen!
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Oh dear. Michael might be getting into a heap of trouble here. His aggressive approach to research and intelligence is good, but Kimmet's conservative easy of doing things means Irwin I'd still around. It'll be interesting to see if Michael gets fitted for this, out if this is the start of the end for Boulder and Irwin. A behemoth in Boulder well be a bad thing.
That being said, immensely enjoyed the banter in the beginning! Awesome ep!
It is still the Army Liam.. I dont think there will be a killing in the future. If there is I think the story will go bad from there. NCO's sometimes disobey the orders of officers if they think the order is stupid. Micheal wants to get that body to Tonya so she can disect it and give him some info. And what is it going to hurt if Tonya is locked up with it and under surveillance? Sure Kimmet is going to be pissed, for one he lost a family member, for two his order was disobeyed, but I think Michael will get a reprimand, maybe lose a stripe, but I doubt he will be fired since he is the only Intel person Kimmet has.
Nah. Its Michael taking the risk here. Irwin/Boulder are the last vestiges of civilization, while the Mallers are the representation of savagery and the slide of humanity backwards. Irwin can't devolve into a Kimmet/Cross knifefight, as Awesome as that would be! But Michael might not be an E-6 for very much longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
You're absolutely right. Kimmet and Michael aren't going to end up fighting to the death. But Kimmet seems pretty erratic. Just something about the sound of his voice makes him seem like he's about to snap. Could it come down to Michael having force Kimmet to step down if he goes off the deep end? Just a thought...Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateer
Interesting. I would love it if Boulder were over run. That missing private that broke out of his restraints...I wonder where he is. 30 miles in the cold is a long way for an Advanced Little One to go. I'm wondering if it would even make it that far. They might be resilient against the cold, but I doubt they are impervious. And even then, they'd have to have some highly advanced sense of smell or something to know which direction to head. Still, I really hope Boulder gets over run and Kimmet cracks under the pressure, blaming himself leaving a spot open for Michael to assume command.
Let's see what Tanya learns from the corpse of #2. Since it is so low in tattoo number, it could be one of the very first variant zombies Pinstripes created.
I also need to work on the timeline. Knowing when these events take place in relation to the Saul/Maller timeline might help us predect when Michael will get in touch with the group in L.A. I imagine there will come a day when Michael's SAT phone goes ring ring and Victor, Lizzy, or Saul will be on the other line.
Hi there.
Thank you, Penguine. Basically I expect something to happen along the lines you write.
Never been to the army though; and even if I was in the German army, this one I don't consider an army, but a bunch of d-bags ... So I don't know much about the rules within the military services.
The question for me would be like this: Michael disobeyes an order and will have to deal with a pissed Colonel. Now, if rules of war of whatever kind would apply, would Kimmet have the right to even death-sentence Michael for disobedience? Or would Michael as just a Sergeant be allowed to question Kimmet even in a way to 'overrule' Kimmet and take command?
No way something like Duari-Scratch will happen in the literary sense, but how unlikely would be a more astract scheme of Michael overthrowing chain of command and taking control ... ;)
Edit: so basically the same question like HardKor raises there ... /edit ends.
All the best!
Liam
Well, any idea that Michael is gonna take over, has to take into account Cross' rank, and what billet he's filling. Yeah, he knows a lot, and would probably be able to hack the job, but unless he gets a brevet promotion by the command structure (or even a commission from the civilian chain of command), there are other officers in front of him in line for command. The Army, from what I understand, doesn't usually let a staff sergeant fill a colonels' billet.
I think that before the Kimmet/Michael crisis can fully develop that we're going to have to get to know other members of the military leadership at Fort Irwin and Boulder. Kimmet's acting erratic. Michael may bring the issue to a head by challenging him on the issue of zombie research. However, if Colonel Kimmet falls, whether he is relieved of his duties, or suffers a collapse, or dies, it's not going to be Staff Sergeant Michael Cross that takes command of the military. There are bound to be other officers and more-senior NCOs in the chain of command between Kimmet and Michael, and one of those is going to be the one to take charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
I suspect that before this issue can really come to a head that we're going to meet a new character that is a Lieutenant Colonel, or a Major, either at Fort Irwin or in Boulder, that will be the one to, figuratively, pull-the-trigger on Colonel Kimmet and take over.
i have a hard time seeing a conflict at boulder becoming anything more than a looming threat for this season. that would make for a very nice cliffhanger. man, just think abouot how screwed boulder is if he actually does make it there though.
agree with A_heros thoughts on the little one. also, #2 is enough evidence to say they have been "growing" into their bodies....and all the subsequent fun stuff we learned about the "bit by a lil one, become one" stuff....
good episode, we got a lot of confirmation here
Mh, OK ... I see. Yeah, the gap between (staff?) sergeant and colonel might be too big ... But I like the prospect of having a hgh-ranked officer screwing up and giving heroes a chance to step up ... ;) But is Michael the hero dude?
At least his action is something I highly approve! Knowledge is power. And actually the sweat-bombs as well as the KODI-activities are based upon knowledge about the Zeds ... So any more information about the special ones is at least just as vital ...
Yet I still wonder what Kimmet will do with Michael ... And how would Puck react to it. I mean, if Kimmet has broken a couple of vital rules within the system, would Puck have the right to enforce the law, since he is/ was MP? This is going to be very interesting.
Interesting would also be, if the soldier in the chopper really bags up #2 instead of the captain, because this soldier actually had a clear order from Kimmet and would not have obeyed to it, if he takes/ took #2's body ...
This is getting more and more complicated ...
All the best!
Liam
Unless the turned little one retains some/ all of the knowledge of its former being as a human ... Then Boulder, although being 30mi away, won't be as far away anymore, wouldn't it ... *snip*Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
We actually know that "lil'ones" are smart to some degree; if they have access to the knowledge ... => uh Oohh!
Its a good question, as to if the soldier on the ground, having heard Kimmets' order, will be liable for punishment.The MP is charged with enforcing the UCMJ, but as far as we've seen, he hasn't done anything wrong. He may well be the one escorting Cross to the stockade though. As far as Kimmet going of his rocker, his decisions have been consistent, really. He's not being erratic, just conservative, and as the base CO, he's allowed to make that decision. It might be the wrong one, but Michael doesn't have the legal right to disobey a direct order, especially one that could less to serious consequences. I think Michael will lose more then a stripe.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
I had thought on Kimmet's reluctance to bring the Advanced Little One in for dissection. Sure he is being cautious and he says so by saying he doesn't want a repeat incident where one of the Forts is over run. BUT, what if there is something else? Something he knows about the blood in zombies. That could be why he hasn't let Michael provide Tanya with a zombie sample other than to let Tanya cross reference her own blood samples with those of uninfected. I bet that with the sample Michael provided, Tanya is going to find something startling. Just a thought.
This kind of idea lingers in the back of my head as well ... Like, you know, kind of an Umbrella-thing making Boulder kind of a more localized testing facility or whatever ... But my ratio keeps this idea back ... for now!Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
I think the quick turn and harden skin could be us that it can probably survive the cold and maybe going on his memory of where Boulder is. So we are passing new traits through genes? Wow!? Is Pinstripes a mad scientist?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
Kimmet in a way is doing the same thing with get the girl body back. He also putting Boulder in danger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateer
Also isn't the responsibly of the intel officer to gain intel?
It would be a really interesting wrinkle! But Kimmet has no reason to hide it. Civilization is gone for the most part, there's no government to embarrass, no ours to report on a scandal. He might keep it from Boulder, but not to his intelligence man. Speaking of which, /is/ Michael serving in an officer's billet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
It seems odd that Kimmet would keep critical knowledge to himself! Not that that would be out of place in this story. It felt like the first words out of anybody's mouth at the Tower when they learned something was "let's not tell the others about this".Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
This was a nicely balanced episode. A character building, plot developing, information gathering, adrenaline inducing episode.
Physical descriptions of the zombies! Funny how just calling this little one a "she" and talking about the skin a bit gives us a broader picture.
What I wonder is if Kc means to compare and contrast similar situations between groups. The Mallers, Ft. Irwin and CJ's little group both had/have a someone in charge who's at least some measure of competent but needs to be worked around (Durai, Kimmet and CJ) and a second in command (Scratch, Michael and Saul) who takes things into their own hands.
I think they need a third location though. Someplace to dissect the z's just in case==someplace easily and intensely flammable .
Adult Friend Fider => Yeehaww!
I think Kimmet's decisions WERE consistent, until the need to bring his niece's body back, without questions. He's hardlined on this, no mattter WHO is at risk, evidenced by just making the body recovery a point of the search party. Her body back, no questions asked is dangerous with or without her turned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateer
We still haven't heard anything about his visit of the other site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
Little more food for thought too. Not sure if they're just doing some more trash-talkin about Tony Robbin's "fat ass", or really meant it, but before they landed at the crash site, they mentioned they're running lower than normal on fuel....It seems we're only getting a direct report from Tony robbins in this episode, not the Carl Thomas....I'm not sure how they run out of fuel and only Tony makes it back (Or documents it in some journal) to tell his story, but I feel its worth noting potential future fuel issues in the blackhawk
Props to KC, for the character development of a freaking zombie! The little ones started as some 'smart than the average (tiny) zombie' in the maller attack.....lurked on Kalani/Angel in the shadows back at the base....waited out the Chinook in LA....then exhibited all the foreshadowed characteristics in the crash site by luring the men to the trees, jumped in and out of the trees to avoid taking fire. These Z's got some style
More of the Little Ones theories pop into my head as I sit here. We seemed to semi-confirm little ones beget little ones...and quickly. As the turner shot toward the end became harder and harder skinned as the color faded away. However, the two wandering around the crash site shredded by the M134, were not numbered yet, or at least deemed unnecessary to inspect for being different? It had to be a few hours at least for the blackhawk to get there, leading me to believe the two wandering would've turned full big-little ones, yet they were never called out as such by our men on the ground. So is this adding to potential theory that (for example) BITTEN by a little one (injecting venom or something) turns you into a little one, but a scratch from a little one may turn you into just a regular zedhead?....and as for Long, if they want to eat you, they just eat you. No turning?
Clarification question: the 3 turners at the end 'put down'? I know at least one of them were from the blackhawk with them, perhaps even two or 3, but I did not distinguish from the audio that 5 men went out from the blackhawk(tony robbins, carl thomas, "Jackie" i believe they called the one as he turned, and the other 2 put down as they turned). So i guess, was it 3 guys from the blackhawk that were turning, or just 2, and the first one got up and crawled away after being shot, thus being shot again seeming like a 3rd turner? OR was one of these a remaining pilot from the Chinook that had just then turned, since our beloved niece was already bagged and half-eaten.
Sorry, that was a lot, hope it made sense.
Specialist Anthony Robbins immediately made me think that John C. Reilly was doing the voice work, and now that's the image I have stuck in my head. John C. Reilly as Specialist Anthony Robbins.
Not sure where to start on this one. Lets go to Michael/Kimmet. If Kimmet followed the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) he would have limited things he could do to Michael. As a Staff Sergeant he would more or less lose one or two stripes but still be kept in the same billet (job) cause he is the only Intel person on Irwin. Chances are all that is going to happen though is that Kimmet will find out and call Michael to the carpet, probably with Puck right next to him, and rip in to him for disobeying an order, and they will both get some sort of extra-duty/restriction. While it may still be the Army, I am sure some things are handled a whole lot different. I really do not see anything more then that happening. Oh.. and no death sentence, that is WAY against the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).
As for Micheal getting some sort of leadership role above what he has, that probably aint going to happen either. He is a Staff Sergeant and although he is an Intel troop I highly doubt leadership up to Kimmet and beyond is throwing out field commissions. To answer the question, a SSgt would never fill a Colonel position. There are main players in the story but you also have to think that their are higher ranking NCO's on Ft. Irwin. Just cause we dont' hear from them does not mean they don't exist. It would make no sense to think that the entire chain of command on Irwin is Kimmett, Micheal, Puck, then whoever is lower ranking then Puck.