In just over 12 hours (barring iTunes screwing us over) We're Alive is back. Therefore, it is my pleasure to release the hounds of hell and start the first thread of season 3 analysis!!!
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In just over 12 hours (barring iTunes screwing us over) We're Alive is back. Therefore, it is my pleasure to release the hounds of hell and start the first thread of season 3 analysis!!!
Great episode. Wonderfully produced and I feel like I've just had a hit of some fantastic narrative narcotics. I'm just going to sit in the dark and be comfortably numb.... :p
Nice way to start off the New Year. Still a lot of questions to be answered but, it's good to see some people are still around =D
1st time I have ever been able to listen to a premiere for We're Alive right when it came out. This was great. Is it next monday yet.
Not quite. You're just gonna have to listen to this over and over again until you get to the point of over analysis....then you'll fit right in! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GodofInsanity
over analyzing? This must have some hidden meaning that contributes to the on going factors that remain in regards to the overall view of the entire being! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
Damnit! Too much thinking ruined my WA high.....now I gotta listen again! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Th3_T3ch
Season 3 is starting, chap. 25 part 1 is out but not on itunes last I checked
Hit refresh friend!!! I got it downloaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Hatchet
Monday makes sense again! Welcome back old friend. :yay:
Pretty sure WA was the only reason not to hate Mondays. I want the next episode now. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mem
EEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Now I stalk the forums for items of goodness for We're Not Dead!
::hides in a bush::
Correct me if I am wrong, but did anyone mention Datu's faulty repair as the reason for them having to land? I can't believe we totally missed that?
All in all, a good episode, I especially liked the voiceover flashbacks at the start of the episode, but the slightly faded nature of the people speaking may hint towards them being heard by Burt? If that was the case then we checked in on every cliffhanger except Angel?
It's sort of a catch 22. We spoke of Datu's failure in the chatbox, but it didn't make it in here yet.
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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
I think you are talking about after the fact? I meant in the discussions of the episode were his repairs are mentioned and the post Season 2 "WHAT NOW" discussions
Wow, that was awesome. First time I've listened to any episode on day one. Now I find out what having to wait week after week is like...
First time listening in my new Sennheisers as well. Sounded great. Glad it weren't released in the dead of night, either. Being in the UK I was worried I was going to have to wait till tomorrow!
Enjoyed the episode loads. Plenty of everything I've come to love about We're Alive. I really feel sorry for everyone, talk about frying pans and fires. Interested to see what's in store for Burt!
Ahh, it feels good to have my We're Alive fix back. Not sure what to say about this episode except it was a nice, slow, lead in for the season. Got us back into the swing of things before everything hits the fan. Love it!
It wasn't a faulty repair until his repair failed mid flight. How were we supposed to know the repair was faulty until it failed? It worked well enough to get them about a half hour from (presumably) ft Irwin.Quote:
Originally Posted by WestonWisdom
One thing I noticed when Saul and Victor were walking around was all of the coughing and with limited visibility from the dust as the building had collapsed, but the Mallers looking around at the end of chapter 24 seemed to have good visibility and no problems breathing. This might give us some indication of the timeline between the two sections.
And YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was trying to say that it was never implied or considered that Datu's repair could be faulty, or that the possibility of a faulty repair would be the reason for them to land, which I considered odd for a group of fans that over(?)-analyse this show to the Nth degree :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
good observation. also looking at it from the perspective of the towers collapse should give some indication of the timeline as well.
*strokes beard*.....couple other things.
big ones dont bleed? just going from memory here, but have we ever heard of blood on a behemoth before? regardless of where(physically) it was shot...would it not be expected that a bullet of that caliber would make a visable spray?
saul and victor are not buddies....excellent...shades of angel/kalani dynamic in full effect. but i see this lil bro-down playing out differently than previous.... bro-down. entertaining non the less!
no sense in jumping on datu just yet about shoddy repairs. one cant expect a simple maintenance man to competantly repair a complex hydraulic system. the more important thing for us to search out right now is a rough guess-timate of where this field they set/are setting the bird down at is....doesn't sound to overly safe imho..(somewhere outside ft irwin along the 15)
new zombie intern...steven!
more to come..
WOO!!!!
Okay, so I was totally happy to hear from Saul and Victor. They were the two I wanted to hear from the most since Chapter 24.
It'll be interesting to hear what happens to Michael's group. I assume they're in the middle of nowhere right now. With Riley still unconscious, Michael (and maybe Kelly) is really the only one who can protect the group should a couple of random zombies find them.
Interesting. I was wondering about that, but that could explain it. Good thinking cupcake!Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakezombie
And isn't anyone else impressed how far the JANITOR'S repair lasted considering he was only going to school for engineering for a few months/years. If anything it takes a lot longer then a few classes to repair some helicopter hydraulic systems. I would imagine that in the real world, a bullet hole in a hydraulic line would need a full on replacement. But yeah, Datu and Kalani could only do so much to repair it considering the equipment and the timeline they had.
Hmm in hindsight, maybe Kalani should have used the repaired helicopter and crashed that one? :D
So is it safe to say the 30-40 seconds of nothing but gunfire in the distance are the Mallers exiting stage left or what?
So nice to have my life back on track again.
I really enjoyed the episode. There is plenty to re-listen to and discuss. I've noticed the artwork changed! Unless of course we are going to get a piece of artwork for the entire chapter and then a different one for the individual parts. One shows a hummer, one shows a person walking through some rubble, which could be the fallen tower.
I have to give props to cupcakezombie for mentioning the time difference deduced by the ability see, and breathe correctly. It definitely could be giving us an indication of time. Saul and Victor definitely didn't engage any human hostiles in their escape so this could be quite plausible in my eyes.
Poor Datu, why do so many people dislike him? He plays the big heart, somewhat frail character. In my eyes he is a good balance between all the testosterone and bravery we normally see. It does seem as though his repairs didn't last very long, and that wouldn't surprise me. Hydraulics are insanely high pressure systems and to think that he managed to fix the bird with just some stuff he had in his tool box? Pretty amazing they even made it that far.
I was super stoked to hear the Chopper would not be making it all that way to Fort Irwin after all was said and done. Perhaps the others will be able to meet up with them somehow. Gotta give props to KC for throwing out so many new story dynamics. Possible survivors from the tower collapse, possible prisoners taken by the Mallers, possible conflict between Durai and Scratch and the remaining Maller crew, the separation between Saul/Victor and the Chopper crew... WOW! Gonna be an amazing season.
All I ask/beg is that at some point Michael tells us how he escaped the damn water facility!
Bravo!
now i need to wait to hear from burt...
Ah ha! Now I'm picking up what you're puttin' down. True, I don't recall anyone pointing out tha prospect. And considering his track record......we all shoulda gone to that first.Quote:
Originally Posted by WestonWisdom
Interesting start, I like this Victor/ Saul combo. Saul has been a handful lately, especially when it comes to the topic of Lizzy, and everyone always walks on eggshells around him. Burt wont call him on his shit, because he's the reason lizzy is out there. Michael and Angel are just trying to keep him out of the way and out of trouble, etc. But Victor, hell yeah, he'll just tell Saul to shove it. If Angel actually is dead, I'll be fine just cause Victor is so badass.
Also no sign of Angel :'( (and Burt n Lizzy). I guess they'll come into play sometime before this chapter ends.
It looks like there are 3 groups. There's the mauler prisoner group, that's probably Lizzy, Angel and Burt, the latter two i'm guessing survived the tower collapse and were captured. And they'll no doubt merge with Victor/ Saul Group in the near future. Then there's the third group of Michael, Datu, Pegs, Riley and the doc. And i'm sure there'll be a big moment halfway through, or maybe near the end of the season where they all meet up again. Probably back in LA.
I guess the how long it will take for the two groups to meet up again will depend on how far away from LA the helicopter group was before they went down. They said they were one hour away from the fort Irwin. From LA it takes about 3 hours to get there by car. If you take out traffic, and increase your average speed, the trip will probably take less than two hours by heli. The other thing is, right before they crash landed, Michael says, hey follow that road, that's the I-15. the 15 runs tangent to LA, so my guess is that's where Michael's group is. Then there's where they landed itself, Michael tells Pegs to land on a grassy patch. There aren't many grassy patches in LA. So its a good guess that they're near the LA national forest that borders the edge of LA. It would be an interesting change of terrain.
So yeah that's everything I got.
I feel like I just listened to Sly Stallone, because that was a Cliffhanger! That was a good premier, and I'll definitely be popping that one on replay a couple of times to hear some stuff over.
Loved the episode, loved the cliffhanger.
The callback to the season one opener ('that was then... this is now') suggests this may be the last season. I know KC was debating whether to do the whole 4 season arc he'd originally planned or to truncate it into a three season story. Wondering if this is the proof of a decision being made. If so, that's a shame, as 4 seasons would be just enough deliciousness. 3 feels too abrupt.
I'm thinking that if we don't hear from them in part 2 we aren't going to hear from the Burt/Angel side of the story til at least Chapter 26. Which means we're dealing solely with the chopper going down a ways from Fort Irwin whilst Saul and Victor try to get to the Mallers. It'll be interesting to see if the Mallers finally hook up with the Colony this season and what'll happen if they do.
Can't wait for next week. This is a feeling I remember fondly, the painful waiting.
Well, I thought KC already confirmed seasons 3 & 4 so, did he recently start talking about shortening it to just the 3rd...or maybe it was a ploy to make us believe that there was a 4th season for reasons...reasons I'm not able to think of at the moment O_o.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magrat
Kc said on the live WND that there will be four seasons.
Instead of the dust and coughing being an indication of time difference, couldn't they be indications of different locations? Saul and Victor were afraid that the tower would fall on them, but the Mallers seemed like they didn't worry about much. Is it more likely that they are just on opposite sides of the tower.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakezombie
I guess this requires me to listen to chapter 24 again.
Great episode, as ever. Looking forward to my journey home to listen again. And a curse on the mobile version of iTunes!
Just a thought I had. Noone can stand on top of a building and survive its collapse. They collapse at pretty much freefall, which means that you would be falling 9 stories onto a tangled mass of bricks and steel. So my idea...
I relistened to the end of C24 yesterday and it struck me that there was a decent sized pause between anyone actually seeing Angel on the roof and the tower collapsing. The zipwire broke 10 meters from the other tower, which is a couple of minutes walk from the main tower. With a bit of guesswork, that means that there should have been a wire running from where Angel was standing when Burt fell, pretty much down to the ground. I presume that his military time would have included at least one abseil. We can assume that he used the kit that was to be used for zip lining to do the same (Gloves, Some sort of hook and eye harness)
So my theory is that Angel Abseiled like a madman down the tower just prior to collapse and at the bottom was injured by falling masonry as he tried to get away. That leaves us with a seriously injured Burt (if he's mobile in this season I would be surprised) and a possibly lightly injured Angel (To save Burt from the mallers at some stage, leading to some great "Don't think this makes it alright between us" gruffness).
Confirmed. 4 is planned. Unless some disaster or apocalypse happens in the meanwhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
You meant "in spite of" instead of unless right? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
God WA how I've missed you.
One thing that's bothering me is this whole behemoth keep up with the truck, how? there slow. The trucks sounds like its going fast. Is it because Victor was laying of the gas from fear of crashing or the stuff on the ground is slowing him down?? Whatever the truck dodges would slow the behemoth down right? Seems strange to me. I like the idea that the who/what is creating them is making improvements. Sounds scary as hell. Or is this just my case of over-analyse :mad:
no the truck was stuck for a good bit, once they actually got it moving they got away without much trouble. And if it's like an older model truck, it'll take a good 15 seconds to get up to 60Quote:
Originally Posted by EVABLACKX
Yes. Visibility was VERY low and the road where they were sucked. Saul and Victor kept arguing about it. Victor went as fast as he could, without serious risk of hitting something. One impact, all over.Quote:
Originally Posted by EVABLACKX