Chapter 20 Part 3 Discussion

Here's a point that I don't believe was mentioned at any point in any of our Chapter 20 discussions: The Mallers apparently have integrated themselves with some semblance of a female population (aside from Scratch of course). Kc said the prison wasn't co-ed earlier in this thread, but Tardust and Bricks had to check a list against Lizzy's ID to see if she was one of the runaways. Just pointing that out. Continue!

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

godkingzombie pimp lives there

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I agree with the rest of your post Ra1th, the Arena is zombie turf, the Mallers aren't living there. But I just had to highlight that title for the one with the markings because it is freaking AWESOME! I love it. The Godkingzombie pimp he shall now be referred to as, I could see Angel and Saul calling him that

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

Here's a point that I don't believe was mentioned at any point in any of our Chapter 20 discussions: The Mallers apparently have integrated themselves with some semblance of a female population (aside from Scratch of course). Kc said the prison wasn't co-ed earlier in this thread, but Tardust and Bricks had to check a list against Lizzy's ID to see if she was one of the runaways. Just pointing that out. Continue!

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I actually got really afraid when I heard that. I wouldn't want to be a female with that bunch.. Does anyone think they went back to the prison?

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

Here's a point that I don't believe was mentioned at any point in any of our Chapter 20 discussions: The Mallers apparently have integrated themselves with some semblance of a female population (aside from Scratch of course). Kc said the prison wasn't co-ed earlier in this thread, but Tardust and Bricks had to check a list against Lizzy's ID to see if she was one of the runaways. Just pointing that out. Continue!

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thats pretty interesting but you know what i think is, they prly did something similar to what hte tower did. i mean JUST because they're criminals doesnt mean they wont save another human being from being eaten alive. i mean comeon, they're "the villains" but not everyone there is evil. i mean durai seemed pretty reasonable, and so does bricks, at no point was he truly vicious to lizzy, he never tried to harm her rape her, he subdued her when she was a threat, and after that he's treated like a prisoner but no more. i think he's a swell guy. so i guess what im saying is the mallers went out on scavenger missions, they prly ran into poeple, and when people saw a boarded up strip mall, they must have joined in. hell they might be prisoners, but if durai is in command, then there are obviously serious consequences for violating certain rules

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

thats pretty interesting but you know what i think is, they prly did something similar to what hte tower did. i mean JUST because they're criminals doesnt mean they wont save another human being from being eaten alive. i mean comeon, they're "the villains" but not everyone there is evil. i mean durai seemed pretty reasonable, and so does bricks, at no point was he truly vicious to lizzy, he never tried to harm her rape her, he subdued her when she was a threat, and after that he's treated like a prisoner but no more. i think he's a swell guy. so i guess what im saying is the mallers went out on scavenger missions, they prly ran into poeple, and when people saw a boarded up strip mall, they must have joined in. hell they might be prisoners, but if durai is in command, then there are obviously serious consequences for violating certain rules

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Ok first ra1th I had to check which section I was in.. chap 20 sec 3.. check.. right chapter right section. I am thinking either your sarcasm is strong tonight.. or I got a different chapter section to listen too..

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

thats pretty interesting but you know what i think is, they prly did something similar to what hte tower did. i mean JUST because they're criminals doesnt mean they wont save another human being from being eaten alive. i mean comeon, they're "the villains" but not everyone there is evil. i mean durai seemed pretty reasonable, and so does bricks, at no point was he truly vicious to lizzy, he never tried to harm her rape her, he subdued her when she was a threat, and after that he's treated like a prisoner but no more. i think he's a swell guy. so i guess what im saying is the mallers went out on scavenger missions, they prly ran into poeple, and when people saw a boarded up strip mall, they must have joined in. hell they might be prisoners, but if durai is in command, then there are obviously serious consequences for violating certain rules

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I never said they hadn't taken in people and that they were all bad people. I'm simply stating the fact that there had been debate about the gender make up of the Mallers. I'm just presenting the fact that the Mallers did indeed have women in their ranks which hadn't been confirmed until this chapter.

I think lizzy is prego, just screamed of prego reminded me of my wife with our daughter. I also think the mallers are at the prison, maybe rounding up deserters for some zombie bait as part of defense tactics since low on ammo. No way are they at the arena, sorry but that would be a time warp way overboard plot twist.

someone could look up furniture stores nearby these theorized locations?

nik, ah i didnt mean to say YOU said that, i'm just saying there's a general kinda the mallers are the devil attitude around

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Originally Posted by yarri

Ok first ra1th I had to check which section I was in.. chap 20 sec 3.. check.. right chapter right section. I am thinking either your sarcasm is strong tonight.. or I got a different chapter section to listen too..

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no it wasnt sarcasm. Yes Lizzy was almost raped by a criminal maller. Thats really bad yes. BUT just because these are killers and hardened criminals does not mean every single one of them is a rapist or a monster. no doubt there are bound to be a few of them that are worse hence tardust, but durai, scratch and bricks are not people who are EVIL. they use questionable methods and brutal force even when its not necessary but would u rather hang out with the zombies?

We dont know the mallers very well. We dont know their organization, we know they're hardened criminals and that they've attacked the tower. This gives us a really bad perception of them. But what we do know is Durai leads with an iron fist. If his rules/laws are broken, there are serious consequences. we dont know what these rules are. without knowing them we cant just say if you live with the mallers you will be raped. the rules might be different for those that live there. i'm not saying they are, but they MIGHT. I'm just saying the mallers arent so evil that they would leave people to die by zombie rather than take them in, pehaps they'd be lower class citizens, maybe they'd be slaves but we dont KNOW. I think its very possible with someone like durai in command that hte mallers have strict rules against raping and killing each other... without good reason i suppose

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

nik, ah i didnt mean to say YOU said that, i'm just saying there's a general kinda the mallers are the devil attitude around

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no it wasnt sarcasm. Yes Lizzy was almost raped by a criminal maller. Thats really bad yes. BUT just because these are killers and hardened criminals does not mean every single one of them is a rapist or a monster. no doubt there are bound to be a few of them that are worse hence tardust, but durai, scratch and bricks are not people who are EVIL. they use questionable methods and brutal force even when its not necessary but would u rather hang out with the zombies?

We dont know the mallers very well. We dont know their organization, we know they're hardened criminals and that they've attacked the tower. This gives us a really bad perception of them. But what we do know is Durai leads with an iron fist. If his rules/laws are broken, there are serious consequences. we dont know what these rules are. without knowing them we cant just say if you live with the mallers you will be raped. the rules might be different for those that live there. i'm not saying they are, but they MIGHT. I'm just saying the mallers arent so evil that they would leave people to die by zombie rather than take them in, pehaps they'd be lower class citizens, maybe they'd be slaves but we dont KNOW. I think its very possible with someone like durai in command that hte mallers have strict rules against raping and killing each other... without good reason i suppose

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I respectfully beg to differ on Scratch.. she is evil. Durai sounds more white collar crime.

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Originally Posted by yarri

I respectfully beg to differ on Scratch.. she is evil. Durai sounds more white collar crime.

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you see scratch as evil because the story is told to us from a point of view that sees her that way. i'm not saying she's a stand up citizen or anything, but she's not entirely a bad person, she loved her brother, she's cruel at times, but not beyond compassion. I'm sure she has friends that she likes and cares about, of course we dont actually see or hear any of this. we see fuck you pegs you stupid whore. fuck you for stealing our oil tanker. she wasnt unreasonable when angel returned latch's body either, she's not all bad

(this should be called a nikvoodoo, where you pull that zen perspective crap on someone)

oh and durai's defnitely not just white collar, i loved crowbar's idea that he was a spook, or a merc bvglee had a good one that he was special forces.