Chapter 20 Part 3 Discussion

[nikvoodoo]

By "car" I meant that if it was Latch he would've had to act dead till Angel dropped him off. But since it's not Latch, then I guess forget it.

AH. Gotcha. The body drop off. Now I get what you're talking about. For some reason your post didn't make sense to me, but now it's crystal clear. My apologies.

[ObamaCat]

That would be a major stretch if Latch was alive. Taking a bullet, surviving a fall off the Tower....... unless it was never Latch! Duh duh duh!

[Crocketman]

Here's what I think will happen now... they have lizzy yes, but Durai is a reasonable man, and once the 50 cal rounds start pouring through their concrete walls, he will be more than happy to trade lizzy back to get the attack to stop. We know that the mallers have mostly small caliber weapons, well burt is bringing MG's to bear on them, I think they will decide to turn lizzy loose real fast.

[Pen]

That episode was great! And it was so awesome what Burt had for weapons. It gave me a chuckle. I enjoyed the gut wrenching performance by the cast.

[Pikepaw]

Here's what I think will happen now... they have lizzy yes, but Durai is a reasonable man, and once the 50 cal rounds start pouring through their concrete walls, he will be more than happy to trade lizzy back to get the attack to stop. We know that the mallers have mostly small caliber weapons, well burt is bringing MG's to bear on them, I think they will decide to turn lizzy loose real fast.

Maybe they will let Lizzy go, but do you really believe that will stop Saul? Nothing is going to stop him, I can understand his wrath. If I found out that my own blondie was kidnapped and raped by convicts (Still the trauma even if Tardust didn't get to complete the act), I wouldn't stop because they let her go. I would ask her which one of them did it, cut my way through to him with a mass of bullets and tear that pig apart with my own two hands. We are going to see the dark side of Saul here, he won't be giving any mercy, he will attack viciously and kill Mallers in cold blood. Saul is not looking to take prisoners or let anyone get away. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a scene coming up where there is a wounded Maller and Saul ruthlessly shoots them in the head.

Scratch I don't see dying by bullet though. Scratch likes knives, likes cutting. Saul likes his knife. I would lllloooovvvveeeeee for a knife fight, like drooling love for it. Even if Saul isn't the one to kill Scratch, she should get a death by a blade or at least close range

[Ra1th]

Here's what I think will happen now... they have lizzy yes, but Durai is a reasonable man, and once the 50 cal rounds start pouring through their concrete walls, he will be more than happy to trade lizzy back to get the attack to stop. We know that the mallers have mostly small caliber weapons, well burt is bringing MG's to bear on them, I think they will decide to turn lizzy loose real fast.

Durai is the leader of the worst types of criminals, serial killers and rapists, a wimp could not lead those kind of people, someone who gives in to the enemy's demands ( 5 people and a hummer at that) would and could never be in charge of people like that. If the mallers were still at the mall, and the tower had gone with the full frontal assault, they would have died immedietely. the mallers are armed, both with conventional fire arms, and others, like fire trucks, pipe bombs, and they have numbers, LOTS of numbers, the tower's got 5 people. Lets go back to the war for a second. there were 30 or 50 mallers who went on that raid, and they were utterly beaten by 5 or 6 people from the tower defending their positions. it is extremely easy to defend a position and it is ifninitely harder to attack one. Durai is reasonable yes, but he would never give in to someones demands, that shows weakness, and a weak man wont be in charge of the mallers for long.

[nikvoodoo]

And my money is on the Mallers going to "Eastern Bay". After the Mallers were attacked when they discovered and pursued Saul, they were hitted hard, and the wanted The Tower, they didn't made it, so they moved to the next best suitable location: A Prision!, "their" prision, for that matter. They fixed whatever was damaged/destroyed during the break-out, and holed up inside. BTW Lizzie's reaction was obvious, she has been there, and Burt told her about the kind of place it was and the kind of guests it hosted. Besides she has NEVER been to the Arena!, so she wouldn't be surprised to find herself there.

My only issue with the Mallers going back to Eastern Bay is exactly what you said. It's their prison. They spent X number of years in there and the first thing they did...after surviving the horrific and hellatious first onslaught of zombies by being safely tucked away in a prison....they left it for an unprotected strip mall. They left the place that protected them from certain destruction in order to stake their claim on everything they could see. I really and truly can't imagine the Mallers returning to Eastern Bay under any circumstances.

Is it still a possibility? Sure, of course it is and the deserters might be a symptom of them returning to the prison and those people just didn't want to go I just feel like they found a different home.

As for Lizzy never seeing the Arena before: She's 26 years old and has lived in the area for at least 3 years (getting her doctorate which she was just completing so she had to be in the area in some capacity). We've known her for about 4 months. That's potentially 25.75 years she might have gone to the Arena to watch a hockey game, or any other event that might be held in the arena in the off season. All said and done though, I don't think the Arena is a possibility either. Just pointing out she could have seen it at some given point in time and be able to recognize it.

[jamman39]

Let's imagine they did go to Eastern Bay and we get 'The War part 2' assuming the good guys win again they'd be left alone inside a secure prison with plenty of space and (presumably) food in storage, perhaps this is all building towards Eastern Bay becoming a more permanent replacement for the tower?

[Ra1th]

My only issue with the Mallers going back to Eastern Bay is exactly what you said. It's their prison. They spent X number of years in there and the first thing they did...after surviving the horrific and hellatious first onslaught of zombies by being safely tucked away in a prison....they left it for an unprotected strip mall. They left the place that protected them from certain destruction in order to stake their claim on everything they could see. I really and truly can't imagine the Mallers returning to Eastern Bay under any circumstances.

Is it still a possibility? Sure, of course it is and the deserters might be a symptom of them returning to the prison and those people just didn't want to go I just feel like they found a different home.

As for Lizzy never seeing the Arena before: She's 26 years old and has lived in the area for at least 3 years (getting her doctorate which she was just completing so she had to be in the area in some capacity). We've known her for about 4 months. That's potentially 25.75 years she might have gone to the Arena to watch a hockey game, or any other event that might be held in the arena in the off season. All said and done though, I don't think the Arena is a possibility either. Just pointing out she could have seen it at some given point in time and be able to recognize it.

there are a few things i think i can point out. THe mallers did leave eastern bay to stake their own claim and they did go to an unprotected strip mall, except it was unprotected. after one point, is it really worth it living in the mall or is it just better to take the prison and stay alive? of course the downside to this argument is theres a lot of places that they could choose other than eastern bay so yeah

as for the arena argument, please please please dont forget ZOMBIE STRONGHOLD. godkingzombie pimp lives there. his entire horde lives there, why why why why on earth would you go about clearing that place up? that's so difficult, and the zombies arent just gonna up and leave one day. i really dont think its the arena.

[yarri]

What sucks for my wife is that her's starts right about the same time as everyone else, but lasts the ENTIRE TIME. And she get's it daily+. Sometimes up to 4 times a day.

I had none with my first pregnancy. ( a girl) but my 2nd and 3rd.. I was sick the whole time.. I wonder if it had something to do with the fact they were both boys.