Can't blame CJ for this one. Blame Pegs for not being a better pilot, and Saul's mom for wanting her daughter-in-law out of the picture.
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I like to think the scene unfolded something like this.........
Tanya over the radio - "Hello anyone?!?! We Need Help!!!! Anyone?!?!"
Pegs - "CJ!!! You hear that they are in trouble we gotta go!!!!"
CJ - "Yeah we probably should..... but look at these supply numbers real quick......"
Pegs - "WHAT?!?! No we have to GO!!!" <runs out of the room>
CJ - "ok I'm right behind ya....."
- 2 minutes later -
Pegs - <pokes her head back in> "I thought you were right behind me!!!! They need us, Come on!!!"
CJ - "Yeah Hang on.... I just need to finish something real quick" <finishes applying makeup>
Pegs - "Makeup?!?! Really?!?!?"
CJ - "Well you know Saul will be there....."
- 5 minutes later -
Pegs - "Ok strap in lets get moving...."
CJ - <Hops out of Helicopter> "Hang on a sec... I forgot something..."
Pegs - "WHAT?!?!?!"
- 10 minutes later -
CJ - <Hops back into Helicopter> "Ok lets go...."
Pegs - *sniff sniff* "CJ!!! Is that Perfume?!?!? Is that what we waited for?!?!?"
CJ - "Well, I did say Saul was going to be there....."
Of all the cries for help that Tanya screamed out over the radio, CJ was the only one that responded. Even though it was Hope that relayed the info, she still flew out there to help, in the middle of her grand relocation plan. And she held the baby. The child of the man she professed to love. Man, that takes character!
Stackenblochen!!!Sorry, that's stuck in my head now. Thanks a lot YABC! :britt:
Unless something (like Scratch showing up or more action at the arena for instance) breaks the natural cycle of things, the next chapter looks to be a lot of grieving. So I'm kind of hoping that the shit hits the fan in a big enough way to skip most of the emotional stuff. At least for one of the 3 groups (Sal's, Michael's, or Burt's).
I just got out of the hospital, been in since the morning of the 31st, so please excuse me if i rehash what has been said before. I only just now got to listen to episode 2 and 3. I'll try to keep it short.
On a side note, Since i had the episodes already downloaded i did introduce a nurse and an orderly to We're Alive, so i'm spreading the word.
First off, i thought Kelly was a dead woman in the truck. But i was happy she pulled through. She was a total bitch at the beginning of the show, but i love her now. And i see Saul is accepting her now too, with a little ribbing as thay are keeping the Behemoth at bat with the "when did you ever NOT have a desk job?"
Healthy baby. Made me SOOOOOO happy. tear of joy.
number 13. creepy, disgusting. confirmed theory that the little ones were raised from birth by ink.
Zombie kill of the week award goes to everyone in the chopper for taking out the behemoth.
Datu. Died where Samantha died. passed peacefully. sad but fitting. could not have asked for a better ending for such a lovable character.
Lizzy. Damn. This was just too horrible. you could feel saul's pain.
Wow....that one was hard to listen to...my wife had really bad tearing and a lot of blood loss giving birth to our daughter, so it brought back some intense emotions....very well done, KC...and bravo to the cast! Some spectacular acting! Its right there with the loss of the soldiers as being the best episode yet!
I called lizzy's possible death, but didn't expect king datu to go yet....
Sent From Ink's House
THANK YOU!!
Dog to the rescue. It will make Burt feel all the more happy he kept Dog around instead of eating him.
Or a wet nurse. They are usually prepared ahead of time for that, but sometimes they need to be rushed.
Cows milk can sometimes be too rich for babies, and right now they do not need anything causing trouble for Saul's little one.
If dog is a "him" i sure hope they don't milk him for the baby.....would be awkward. ....lol
Sent From Ink's House
I'm going to step away from all the heartbreak for a moment, and make a prediction:
The Pelican is going down. The Behemoth has damaged it, and it will not make it back to the colony.
Pegs will send out a radio call saying she is going down. From the higher position, it will spread farther.
Cj was told to strap in by Tanya, but it is unclear if she did or not.
It will probably make a hard landing and not a crash. That's still bad, but not horrible.
Baby will be ok, protected by someone in the chopper on impact. (CJ?)
It will probably hit close to Scratch's observation post.
That will leave everyone that Scratch has an interest in (Saul's baby, Pegs, CJ) a vulnerable position.
The only others on the helicopter are Kelly and a emotionally crippled Saul.
And Burt and Riley just may hear the radio call, and come to the rescue.
Ok, now i have two weeks to find out how full of crap i am.
THE PEGS will deliver her charges to safety and THE PEGS shall live to fight another day.
Pegs protects her passengers
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There was a powered exoskeleton power loader on the Pelican, right?
having the first and only baby in a world of death and decay with lotsa zombs around ... Why would someone more of a sadist than the author? :D
It turns out that currently we have just a handful of survivors available. And these are far less than what would be the least amount of people required to uphold a gene-pool of diversity. And with only one infant and none other so far on the radar it is hard to imagine that there would be a subsequent generation of humans striving for survival.
BUT: Nicholas ... I mentioned it earlier - the name has Greek origins and means "victory of the people". I am not certain, if this is why Kc has chosen this name for Saul to call the baby. But if so, than there is ... Oh, wait: HOPE! Nicholas, Hope ... Man, what a lovely picture, although Hope could be almost his mother ...
Maybe it is time to wonder how the humans will, would, or could survive this onslaught with only one newborn alive ...
Best wishes!
Liam
According to Ed Grabianowski at io9, (not just him obviously) humans have survived near extinctions before.
Now, of course, every school child knows it was the first proto-zombie outbreak. :DQuote:
There is one near-extinction event that is fairly well-known, although it remains controversial. Roughly 70,000 years ago, give or take a few thousand years, an enormous eruption occurred in what is now Sumatra, leaving behind Lake Toba (the crater lake pictured above). The eruption coincides with a population bottleneck that is often cited as the reason for the relatively low genetic diversity across Homo sapiens sapiens. Research suggests as few as 2,000 humans were left alive by the eruption and its aftereffects.
I think Ink is making a bad thing 1000x worse. Remember, people in the Colony had never seen a behemoth before. The zoms they knew were bad but unorganized. They tended to do random crowd movement type runs. Assuming that Ink isn't one of a cadre with members all over the world--we don't know what's going on everywhere.
The site won't let me rep you for that... so just the thumb will have to do... +1
I was thinking along similar lines earlier this evening... about a population bottleneck and the Mount Toba eruption. At this rate, are their even enough humans left to form a stable breeding population? I fear that the answer is no... but then again... still a few more chapters to go. Might not matter in the end.
I feel the Pelican will make it back to the Colony but it may never take off again.. This puts the main Characters together back at the Colony. Everyone else will be gone. That way they can all have the day of Mourning before the Real SHTF..
So That would leave us the Following people to have one last round with the Mallers before taking on Ink..
Michael, Saul, Pegs, Kelly, Burt, Riley, Victor, Tanya, Hope, CJ.. Plus the couple of people that stayed behind to help out with the Windmill (Can't Remember Names). Would be cool if they got it up and running while all the rest of this shtf stuff was going on..
Actually, it all goes back to Alexander Graham Bell: he invented the telephone, which allowed Tanya to leave a message at the colony, which allowed Hope to relay it to CJ and Pegs. Clearly, Bell's the hero here.
are Michael and Victor going to carry Datu's body out of there?
He dug his own grave, for goodness sake, and i wonder if Michael will honor his further, unspoken request. Datu dug the graves (Jay's, Glenn's, and his own) deep so nothing could come and dig him up, so he's already got a plot for himself.
i can see a burial scene where Lizzy is buried next to Angel's grave, then they all get the impact of two deaths, their causes, and a need for redemption/vendetta.
That we know of! There’s a whole lot of world left aside from LA. Hell, the zombies could already have people farms set up to create more pure ones by this point!
Given that CJ gave the go ahead to start dismantling the colony one could make the argument that she is responsible. Had they continued to stay at the colony, Tanya’s supplies wouldn’t have been depleted to the level they were and a trip to Cain might not have been necessary. In fact, extra supply runs could have been made by the colonists to prepare for exactly this sort of situation if CJ hadn’t kicked Saul out of the colony in the first place.
Moral of the story: You can always blame CJ!
As for predictions, I’m just going to second everything TacticalJHP said in post 257. It sounds as plausible as anything else I can think of.
Nice try but Michael wasn't in charge! CJ was queen of the castle and is ultimately responsible for those decisions. Mhmm. ... You can't make me change my mind! :britt:
I know they probably didn't originally have them but if all of the people at the colony were still together it doesn't seem unreasonable that getting those sorts of things for colony use would have been a reasonable step!
If you're going to blame ANYONE for this whole thing, you have to go back much further than CJ. It can all be traced back to the moment when Burt unzipped his pants, and showed Scratch that his dick was bigger when he shot out the side mirror of the rig in chapter 6 (?). If that hadn't happened, Scratch would likely not have found the Tower, and Pegs wouldn't have shot Latch causing all the non-zombie chaos and forcing the residents of the Tower to be scattered.
There's just no arguing that logic.
You know.... All this talk of who's th blame for Lizzy's death would make a great song...
I'm just saying that the musicals Titanic & Into the Woods pulled it off.....
(Ducks from flying table)
Sadly, they won't. Datu won't want them to endanger their life just to carry his body out. Unless they find a car/truck quickly, they have a really long walk to the colony or the original tower.
I can see them maybe stashing and trying to come back if they can. But I agree, long walk carrying a body.