Chapter 40-1 Monsters

So... Since we now know that Ink was a doctor... I had this thought yesterday.
Let's say Ink is behind the zets - not that I actually think so, at least not directly... Could the reason that it broke out in so many major international cities be because he, as a doctor, has been traveling around the world, going to all sorts of doctorish conventions and stuff?
Though this does not explain the cracks at G0, the explosion in Ch1, nor the fact that it all broke out simultaniously - almost at least - but it's still an interesting thought... At least to me. :D

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Originally Posted by Storm

So... Since we now know that Ink was a doctor... I had this thought yesterday.
Let's say Ink is behind the zets - not that I actually think so, at least not directly... Could the reason that it broke out in so many major international cities be because he, as a doctor, has been traveling around the world, going to all sorts of doctorish conventions and stuff?
Though this does not explain the cracks at G0, the explosion in Ch1, nor the fact that it all broke out simultaniously - almost at least - but it's still an interesting thought... At least to me. :D

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although It does not conincide with the "ring of fire" bit. (major outbreak points happening at ring of fire locations) one option could be "bombs" planted at locations as you suggest, receiving a wifi signal. at a certain point a timer of the ol' interwebs goes off and 'viola...at that point nobody would have to be present, or have any control over whats happening.

a separate thought. and ive not been on here in a day or two, so perhaps this has came up...but fuck me, we have the guy who is arguably the baddest of the bad(as far as the biters go), who JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE BEING TRANSPORTED TO THE COURTHOUSE AT THE TIME OF OUTBREAK.(!)

hes behind all of this, dammit. just the idea of anything else being the case I cant see happening. the entire thing is staring us all in the face and ive yet to see anyone put it together in a cohesive way. while that's probly a good thing...man, it makes keeping out of the "what happened" theory-verse very hard.

boozed rant>over
7id

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Originally Posted by Storm

So... Since we now know that Ink was a doctor... I had this thought yesterday.
Let's say Ink is behind the zets - not that I actually think so, at least not directly... Could the reason that it broke out in so many major international cities be because he, as a doctor, has been traveling around the world, going to all sorts of doctorish conventions and stuff?
Though this does not explain the cracks at G0, the explosion in Ch1, nor the fact that it all broke out simultaniously - almost at least - but it's still an interesting thought... At least to me. :D

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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead

although It does not conincide with the "ring of fire" bit. (major outbreak points happening at ring of fire locations) one option could be "bombs" planted at locations as you suggest, receiving a wifi signal. at a certain point a timer of the ol' interwebs goes off and 'viola...at that point nobody would have to be present, or have any control over whats happening.

a separate thought. and ive not been on here in a day or two, so perhaps this has came up...but fuck me, we have the guy who is arguably the baddest of the bad(as far as the biters go), who JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE BEING TRANSPORTED TO THE COURTHOUSE AT THE TIME OF OUTBREAK.(!)

hes behind all of this, dammit. just the idea of anything else being the case I cant see happening. the entire thing is staring us all in the face and ive yet to see anyone put it together in a cohesive way. while that's probly a good thing...man, it makes keeping out of the "what happened" theory-verse very hard.

boozed rant>over
7id

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Hey, Ink's schizophrenia could be explained by signals from Moon Men From Mars. If he wore a tin foil hat then this mess wouldn't have started.

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Originally Posted by scbubba

Seriously though, is there anyone Victor can't have an awesome scene with? Between Kc's writing and Otto's acting, Victor is AWESOME and is now officially tied for "favorite character in WA"....

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i agree! Victor is my favorite WA Character. He's offered so much to buffet the story and other characters. i love his relationship with Saul and how the progression has gone. He's also been placed in very tough circumstances, both physically and 'politically' and has come out on the other side as a stronger character.
Voice acting is Top-Notch!

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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead

although It does not conincide with the "ring of fire" bit. (major outbreak points happening at ring of fire locations) one option could be "bombs" planted at locations as you suggest, receiving a wifi signal. at a certain point a timer of the ol' interwebs goes off and 'viola...at that point nobody would have to be present, or have any control over whats happening.

a separate thought. and ive not been on here in a day or two, so perhaps this has came up...but fuck me, we have the guy who is arguably the baddest of the bad(as far as the biters go), who JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE BEING TRANSPORTED TO THE COURTHOUSE AT THE TIME OF OUTBREAK.(!)

hes behind all of this, dammit. just the idea of anything else being the case I cant see happening. the entire thing is staring us all in the face and ive yet to see anyone put it together in a cohesive way. while that's probly a good thing...man, it makes keeping out of the "what happened" theory-verse very hard.

boozed rant>over
7id

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Pause. Stepping outside the show story for a minute...

Looking at this from outside the story, I have a good feeling we are going to find out the cause of ZDay at some point. That's either going to come from something in the story already or we will have to have something introduced to the story close to the end. Right now, Ink is the most likely candidate to have the information that the listeners (and probably the characters) need.

This doesn't necessarily mean Ink initiated or even helped start the cause of Zday. But he has some knowledge of what it is and where it came from.....

I'm assuming we don't have some Deus Ex sort of "Here's how it happened" thing happen just to wrap things up. I can't see Kc doing that.

Ok, back to the story....

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Originally Posted by Footbutt

i agree! Victor is my favorite WA Character. He's offered so much to buffet the story and other characters. i love his relationship with Saul and how the progression has gone. He's also been placed in very tough circumstances, both physically and 'politically' and has come out on the other side as a stronger character.
Voice acting is Top-Notch!

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VICTOR FOR PRESIDENT!!!! :excited:

I still do not think Ink had anything to do with the outbreak.. But his knowledge of Chems lead him to create the Specials. Cause the Colonist said they never had any of the specials down there when Mike and crew were there the first time.. Its an LA thing. The guys at Irwin never seen them before either..I do not feel, with what I have heard so far, that Ink started the outbreak..

How likely is it to find the one key information who caused z-day in a zero infrastructure post-apocalyptic world? Nada.

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Originally Posted by Storm

So... Since we now know that Ink was a doctor... I had this thought yesterday.
Let's say Ink is behind the zets - not that I actually think so, at least not directly... Could the reason that it broke out in so many major international cities be because he, as a doctor, has been traveling around the world, going to all sorts of doctorish conventions and stuff?
Though this does not explain the cracks at G0, the explosion in Ch1, nor the fact that it all broke out simultaniously - almost at least - but it's still an interesting thought... At least to me. :D

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Let's assume Ink was part of a psycho pseudo-esoteric religious group or something ... He could have managed to create the zeeh-formular and share it or the methods to create it with his other freak-heads; then each single groupe has created the first bottles of zeeh-awesomeness ... And 'cause they all are kind of bound by the spells of their religion, they knew that "when the stars are right" and Neptune and Saturn are in certain spots in the sky, then they would release the Will of their fals good(ess) or shit ... And then ... *baaaaaam* ... in multi-locations almost simultanously the zombocalypse could have started ...

Don't get me wrong: this is not what I think; but I could see a story like this evolve or at least could be possible.

In my personal view the We're Alive zombocalypse started the one way or another, and Dr. Robberts was just in the right condition to be mutated into something special ... He (and his minions) are the result of something else ...

Best wishes!
Liam

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Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek

How likely is it to find the one key information who caused z-day in a zero infrastructure post-apocalyptic world? Nada.

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Well ... it depends ...
But I agree with you: So early in the season I wouldn't expect the key information to show up as easily ...

I have a few reasons why I don't buy the whole "Ink didn't do it, he's just a nice guy that likes long walks on zombie beach and reading books" theory..........

#1 - The explosion at Ground Zero. Either Ink is extremely lucky, or something there was planned..... There just so happens to be an explosion? and it just so happens to be the day you are being transferred?

#2 - Ground Zero seems to be a residental neighborhood. I would suggest that either A) something under the ground blew up.... or B) Something above ground blew up with enough force to crack the ground. With Ink being paranoid it could be that he planned or planted something to blow up.

#3 - I could be wrong on this one, but just throwing it out there. But Do we know that any other Zombies other than Ink are able to lead/command the others??? What I mean is, there are points in the story where Ink will Roar/Howl to call the zombies into action...... Can other zombies do this as well or just Ink??

#4 - If Ink is the only one that can command the zombies, then he was somewhere nearby when Michael, Saul, and Angel were at the military base. This was not long after the explosion, and Ink already knew he could just control the zombie hordes??? Seems like this information would have taken a little while to figure out........ unless you already knew what was going to happen.


Just a few ideas..... :zombiepoke:

Hi there,

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Originally Posted by Gnex

I have a few reasons why I don't buy the whole "Ink didn't do it, he's just a nice guy that likes long walks on zombie beach and reading books" theory..........

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I really hope that none here thinks Dr. William Isaac Robberts was a nice guy ... :cool:

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Originally Posted by Gnex

#1 - The explosion at Ground Zero. Either Ink is extremely lucky, or something there was planned..... There just so happens to be an explosion? and it just so happens to be the day you are being transferred?

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We only know for certain that there are cracks in the ground at Ground Zero. But we have not a single idea about what caused it. It seems to be quite certain that it must have been a powerful source, since some cracks go deep, and they spread very far.
I guess it is something from beneath the surface. If it was a source above ground, buildings should not have simply crashed, but be blown away at least almost as far as the deeper cracks went. And I have no recollection from the tellings of Saul or Victor that they saw something like that.
But in either case - something big exploding under the surface or at surface-level or even above the surface: a source creating such big cracks in the ground needs either one guy who was not under surveillance, a group of crazy maniacs/ terrorists, or a facility of whatever type gone *booom*.
At the time of the explosion Ink already was in custody. So he couldn't have started the bomb - or he had built it with a timer set to a certain time ... Could be, couldn't be. We really have not a single clue allowing any assumptions right now.

But one major reason speaks against Ink having done this in Inglewood: why were hotspot in many areas around the Pacific and at least on the Northern American continent? Ink? Really?? OK, granted: We have not a single idea about what started the zombocalypse in other areas. But to me it would be kind of strange that everywhere in the world zombies jump out of nowhere, while in LA Ink created his regional special zombie-party at the same time ... edit: So the question is: Is Ink big enough to establish the zombocalypse, or did the zombocalypse have special on him for whatever reason allowing him to organize his special LA-zombie-party? /edit

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Originally Posted by Gnex

#2 - Ground Zero seems to be a residental neighborhood. I would suggest that either A) something under the ground blew up.... or B) Something above ground blew up with enough force to crack the ground. With Ink being paranoid it could be that he planned or planted something to blow up.

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see above ...

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Originally Posted by Gnex

#3 - I could be wrong on this one, but just throwing it out there. But Do we know that any other Zombies other than Ink are able to lead/command the others??? What I mean is, there are points in the story where Ink will Roar/Howl to call the zombies into action...... Can other zombies do this as well or just Ink??

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That's a very fine question. And I don't remember seeing something like that except - maybe with some interpretation - for one situation: Randy leading a small group of Zeehs kidnapping Tanya ...
And from ther reports on the Smart Ones I would assume some level of control over zeehs as well ... But that's kind of a stretch, because we really have no solid information about that - yet.

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Originally Posted by Gnex

#4 - If Ink is the only one that can command the zombies, then he was somewhere nearby when Michael, Saul, and Angel were at the military base. This was not long after the explosion, and Ink already knew he could just control the zombie hordes??? Seems like this information would have taken a little while to figure out........ unless you already knew what was going to happen.

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When Michael, Angel, and Saul were at the military base riots were all over LA and in other cities - so not only near the military base in LA. This picture is supported by all the news we heard during the first episodes of WA and later by Kimmet's report.
As for Ink controlling other zombies: My bet would be that he learned to control other zeehs pretty quickly. And when he realized that and established a group of hunters for him - his "pack of zeehs, if you like -, he also started to build his own small zombie-population or zombie-group of "survivors". After all: We're Alive is a Story of Survival. And them zombos are just one other group of "human bodies" striving for survival - just with different attitudes and means ...

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Originally Posted by Gnex

Just a few ideas..... :zombiepoke:

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And damn fine questions and ideas you raise here. Thank you for sharing ...

Best wishes!
Liam

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Originally Posted by Gnex

#3 - I could be wrong on this one, but just throwing it out there. But Do we know that any other Zombies other than Ink are able to lead/command the others??? What I mean is, there are points in the story where Ink will Roar/Howl to call the zombies into action...... Can other zombies do this as well or just Ink??

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I think the Behemoth can summom other zombies but I think all smart ones can have some sway over weak ones. I thinking back to the Major at the army base on the first eps and Randy seem to have some control too.

yeah, Liam, Randy was leading the "Massed Together" group when he dragged away Tanya.

anyway... i was bored at work and started looking at Fault Lines in CA. Apparently southern Ohio had a VERY minor earthquake, so that was my catalyst.

there's a fault line called the "Newport-Inglewood Fault". i'm sure this a common knowledge, and i'm probably rehashing a bunch of stuff...

but let me take you for a little wild ride:
i know religious-ish stuff is usually not handled with kid-gloves, but consider the Explosion on May 8th, Z-Day. The cracks in Inglewood could be along the Fault Line, and i'm going to assume that it was a release of compressed gas/toxin that burst through the Earth... from Hell??!?!!!!? what? it's either all Natural/biological or there's some random spiritual element involved. Since there's been next-to-none talk about God and religion and stuff, i'm assuming that the former is the winner for this plot line.
i feel there's no Human interaction that's the cause of the outbreak, it was all through the Elements of Nature. ....but i still don't wanna rule out the idea that all Hell has literally been unleashed! :tinfoil

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Originally Posted by Footbutt

yeah, Liam, Randy was leading the "Massed Together" group when he dragged away Tanya.

anyway... i was bored at work and started looking at Fault Lines in CA. Apparently southern Ohio had a VERY minor earthquake, so that was my catalyst.

there's a fault line called the "Newport-Inglewood Fault". i'm sure this a common knowledge, and i'm probably rehashing a bunch of stuff...

but let me take you for a little wild ride:
i know religious-ish stuff is usually not handled with kid-gloves, but consider the Explosion on May 8th, Z-Day. The cracks in Inglewood could be along the Fault Line, and i'm going to assume that it was a release of compressed gas/toxin that burst through the Earth... from Hell??!?!!!!? what? it's either all Natural/biological or there's some random spiritual element involved. Since there's been next-to-none talk about God and religion and stuff, i'm assuming that the former is the winner for this plot line.
i feel there's no Human interaction that's the cause of the outbreak, it was all through the Elements of Nature. ....but i still don't wanna rule out the idea that all Hell has literally been unleashed! :tinfoil

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Hmm, Good theory. A natural event could cause all this here and around the world. And I'm also think that Ink isn't the source of the break and just took advance of the event. The only thing I can't shake off is Kanti said that he saw pretty bad ones at Hawaii. Who would have made those?

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Originally Posted by Footbutt

yeah, Liam, Randy was leading the "Massed Together" group when he dragged away Tanya.

anyway... i was bored at work and started looking at Fault Lines in CA. Apparently southern Ohio had a VERY minor earthquake, so that was my catalyst.

there's a fault line called the "Newport-Inglewood Fault". i'm sure this a common knowledge, and i'm probably rehashing a bunch of stuff...

but let me take you for a little wild ride:
i know religious-ish stuff is usually not handled with kid-gloves, but consider the Explosion on May 8th, Z-Day. The cracks in Inglewood could be along the Fault Line, and i'm going to assume that it was a release of compressed gas/toxin that burst through the Earth... from Hell??!?!!!!? what? it's either all Natural/biological or there's some random spiritual element involved. Since there's been next-to-none talk about God and religion and stuff, i'm assuming that the former is the winner for this plot line.
i feel there's no Human interaction that's the cause of the outbreak, it was all through the Elements of Nature. ....but i still don't wanna rule out the idea that all Hell has literally been unleashed! :tinfoil

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Yeah. I follow you down that rollercoaster ... Or down that road ...
"Hell" or any other "religious"-fueled delusion could be considered as kind of a motivation for Ink to become "zeeh"-leader ... All the symbols covering him or being part of his background seem to point at such a madness. Such a "Hell"-theme would be similar to the "Doom"-theme of the game as well as the movie ... But I guess Kc is not fueled by that idea ...

For whatever strange reason I think of "Pacific Rim" right now ... I need to stop writing here, or my madness strikes ...

Best wishes!
Liam

I keep flip flopping in my head whether Ink started this or not. In the least he must have known something was going down, otherwise why the tattoos all of the sudden, shortly before Z-Day? That is too coincidental to ignore.

If he had a hand in starting it then how is it apparently almost simultaneously a global event? If it was isolated to ground zero then how did it spread over seas so fast? Air traffic would have been shutdown pretty damn quick.

The other thing that has been bugging me for what seems like forever is Michael and Randy. Thee must be some clue or important bit of information that will come out when we hear that story, because every time Michael is about to tell us he gets interrupted. Damn you Kc so much suspense

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Originally Posted by kent17

I keep flip flopping in my head whether Ink started this or not. In the least he must have known something was going down, otherwise why the tattoos all of the sudden, shortly before Z-Day? That is too coincidental to ignore.

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i also wonder how his tatoos were "inflicted' upon him. he had to have been pretty drugged up for Cohen to do his artwork on Bill Roberts--if they were never voluntary.
i'm leaning towards the idea that this "Cohen" gave Ink his tatoos out of cult-ish motivations. Roberts was unstable. throw in a shaky biochemist past and a freshly tatooed epidermis and you have the makings of a VERY recognizable figure with the crazies to enhance the Zombie Army.

so yeah, as someone else put it, Cohen has some 'splainin' ta do.
whether that's Duncan Cohen or whomever.

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Originally Posted by kent17

I keep flip flopping in my head whether Ink started this or not. In the least he must have known something was going down, otherwise why the tattoos all of the sudden, shortly before Z-Day? That is too coincidental to ignore.

If he had a hand in starting it then how is it apparently almost simultaneously a global event? If it was isolated to ground zero then how did it spread over seas so fast? Air traffic would have been shutdown pretty damn quick.

The other thing that has been bugging me for what seems like forever is Michael and Randy. Thee must be some clue or important bit of information that will come out when we hear that story, because every time Michael is about to tell us he gets interrupted. Damn you Kc so much suspense

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I'm thinking Ink had some kind of connection to the family....... and the family has the connection to the explosions/zombies/etc/etc........... This would give us the reason why there was multiple explosion in various areas...... and then Ink knew something was being planned and did something to prevent himself from turning.

This would also explain why so many members of the family were unharmed, and could also explain why Ink's insanity plea was accepted....... Maybe the family paid for some expensive fancy lawyers to represent him.......

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Originally Posted by Gnex

I'm thinking Ink had some kind of connection to the family....... and the family has the connection to the explosions/zombies/etc/etc........... This would give us the reason why there was multiple explosion in various areas...... and then Ink knew something was being planned and did something to prevent himself from turning.

This would also explain why so many members of the family were unharmed, and could also explain why Ink's insanity plea was accepted....... Maybe the family paid for some expensive fancy lawyers to represent him.......

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I guess that the whole revelation will definitely include much more background on Durai. I mean, this character is a mystery to me, he must have been more than a inertial damper for Scratch's megalomanic plans storywise.

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Originally Posted by Gnex

I'm thinking Ink had some kind of connection to the family....... and the family has the connection to the explosions/zombies/etc/etc........... This would give us the reason why there was multiple explosion in various areas...... and then Ink knew something was being planned and did something to prevent himself from turning.

This would also explain why so many members of the family were unharmed, and could also explain why Ink's insanity plea was accepted....... Maybe the family paid for some expensive fancy lawyers to represent him.......

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I personally don't like the "Family" theory, I think the family angle has played out for the most part; but it does help fit a lot of pieces into place, and Scratch is still out there. The next be reveal will probably be who Coen is... my money is on Duncan, he seems most likely out of the current characters we have, but there is always Randy too. Randy seems to be similar to Ink in his awareness and self control.

Come to think of it, in Chapter 39 when they find Randy his first reaction is to run away, have there been any other times when a zombie has run away like that? Typically I thought they would just start attacking, right?

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Originally Posted by kent17

The next be reveal will probably be who Coen is... my money is on Duncan, he seems most likely out of the current characters we have, but there is always Randy too.

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Glad to see someone else on my "Skittles is evil" (or at least more than he seems) bandwagon. :)

Ok I'm just putting this out there but could Mr. Cohen be harkening back to Monty Pythons Mr Cohen. A mysterious charector who is often quoted in the Python shows. But never really enlightend upon.... If so perhaps ink is really John Cleese. And just maybe, maaaaybe. The outbreak was started by a dead... Or undead parrot? If this is not the case I say we abduct Kc and probe his brain for answers. It's the only logical explanation. "Twitch twitch"

First of all, well done everyone! So many smart, insightful people working on such an excellent puzzle!

So, I'm thinking that if you ignore what the press presents as his actions and motivations we know that:

Dr. Bill's wife was murdered
A man and his entire family were murdered

Suppose Ink and possibly this man (or he was just a patsy?) found something they shouldn't oughta'...maybe at Raydon...and to keep him/them quiet everyone in both households were murdered and either Bill got away or he was left alive to take the blame (so his word and any physical proofs would be discounted). He tries to warn everyone about what's planned, but they see him as an insane murderer and everything he says makes him just sound more and more like a paranoid schizophrenic (riiiiiiight, zombies) a diagnosis that allows him to have been able to work and function before hand.

Or for some other reason he fell out with the guys in charge and they put out the hit.

Or, this is how it was all planned from the beginning so that he could control the direction of the aftermath for the evil apocalyptic cult

I pointed out he got tattooed before the outbreak
7Oddisdead pointed out--the outbreak happened right when he was being transported.

Do prisoners or their lawyers have any control over when they will be arraigned?
His tattoos could have been some type of self-dosing, and/or could have been clues to leave behind.

You think somewhere there is a bunker somewhere with said apocalyptic cult-type people waiting it all out?

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Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek

How likely is it to find the one key information who caused z-day in a zero infrastructure post-apocalyptic world? Nada.

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Might only take two things: One guy that is tech savvy IT, SYS admin, ect. and and a lucky find of a Google server farm... Who, by the way, have been building server farms in shipping containers and putting them in unmarked warehouses since at least 2005. Google has also been planning on putting those server farms out to sea since 2008 and it might be actually happening RIGHT NOW, only no one knows is operating them other than ownership by the company "By and Large, LLC."

Why did Kimmet want access to the ports again?

Also worth noting, there are more than a dozen or so ways that the entirety of Wikipedia can be downloaded and referenced offline. Even .ISO and .IMG files that you used to be able to burn to a DVD. (I think that you used to be able to buy them at MicroCenter for a couple bucks... the cost of the disk & labor to burn them.)
Well, that was from a few years ago, back when Wikipedia was smaller... the current dump from October 2, 2013 is 9.5 GB compressed... 44 GB uncompressed.

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Originally Posted by Gnex

#2 - Ground Zero seems to be a residental neighborhood. I would suggest that either A) something under the ground blew up.... or B) Something above ground blew up with enough force to crack the ground. With Ink being paranoid it could be that he planned or planted something to blow up.

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I'm sticking with something from underground... An above ground explosion powerful enough to crack the ground like in Inglewood, would have leveled the city.
IMO, the explosion sounded kinda like a giant "pop." For some reason, they also seemed "bouncy" to me, though that was probably just the reverb and echo.

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Originally Posted by Footbutt

anyway... i was bored at work and started looking at Fault Lines in CA. Apparently southern Ohio had a VERY minor earthquake, so that was my catalyst.

there's a fault line called the "Newport-Inglewood Fault". i'm sure this a common knowledge, and i'm probably rehashing a bunch of stuff...

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That would be the Newport-Inglewood-Rose Canyon Fault Zone. I talked about fault lines and geologic activity back in one of my first posts here. Regrettably, some of those links are dead, due to usgs.gov updating their site. The new page is missing the map, but here is a list of information about it.

Southern Ohio quake? Probably related to the New Madrid & Wabash Valley Seismic Zones. I mention those in my old post too.

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Originally Posted by Gnex

This would give us the reason why there was multiple explosion in various areas...

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The thing is, is that the crust of the Earth is riddled with tens, maybe even hundreds of thousands faults ranging from the obvious ones on the surface, to faults that are fifty or more kilometers below the surface... Many are dormant, though they do interact with other active faults in other ways by deflecting, deadening or even amplifying (I think) the tectonic effects of other active faults. Were the Planet Earth to burp/fart/*bodily function verb of choice*; there are a LOT of places for that gas/haze/effluent to leak from.

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Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek

I guess that the whole revelation will definitely include much more background on Durai. I mean, this character is a mystery to me, he must have been more than a inertial damper for Scratch's megalomanic plans storywise.

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Given what little we know with his demeanor and eloquence, my best guess is that he was not just a member, but at least an "Heir Apparent," if not an actual patriarch of one of the Families.

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Originally Posted by Footbutt

i agree! Victor is my favorite WA Character. He's offered so much to buffet the story and other characters. i love his relationship with Saul and how the progression has gone. He's also been placed in very tough circumstances, both physically and 'politically' and has come out on the other side as a stronger character.
Voice acting is Top-Notch!

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I appreciate that very much Footbutt! I've learned a lot about this craft and trust me, I cringe when I hear my voice but I certainly appreciate the opportunity to be on the podcast and it's always fun to see the gang at the recording sessions. Thanks for the kudos, and as always, we appreciate your enthusiasm for the podcast,.....and for Victor too! I bestow you MUCHO MAS MACHO MAN! Go forth and hock a loogie.

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I appreciate that very much Footbutt! I've learned a lot about this craft and trust me, I cringe when I hear my voice but I certainly appreciate the opportunity to be on the podcast and it's always fun to see the gang at the recording sessions. Thanks for the kudos, and as always, we appreciate your enthusiasm for the podcast,.....and for Victor too! I bestow you MUCHO MAS MACHO MAN! Go forth and hock a loogie.

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You got a great voice, bro. Embrace it.

Just an FYI - I think Raydon Labs may have been a red herring.

Apparently CVS is the place we ought to be checking out

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Osiris

You got a great voice, bro. Embrace it.

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Thanks bro, I'm hugging my throat right now,......WAIT, it's hard to breathe!

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Originally Posted by Z Sniper

Thanks bro, I'm hugging my throat right now,......WAIT, it's hard to breathe!

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So, I'm just sitting around, thinking of all things "We're Alive", like I always do and it occurred to me. What if KC was just sitting around and shooting the breeze with some buddies and said, "You know what would make the zombie apocalypse awesome? If some dude started pumping the zombies up with some serious steroids and growth hormones. They would be your worst nightmare. Incredible Hulk/ The Thing/ Mr. T Zombies. No wait, even better, Bruce Jenner zombies that can run and jump too. Let's add a bad ass Steve Urkel/Tupac zombie."

Then his buddies say,"Fool, pass the weed and shut up."

Thus, a silly B-Movie idea, along the same lines as Sharknado, becomes this incredible, magnificent piece of work.

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So, I'm just sitting around, thinking of all things "We're Alive", like I always do and it occurred to me. What if KC was just sitting around and shooting the breeze with some buddies and said, "You know what would make the zombie apocalypse awesome? If some dude started pumping the zombies up with some serious steroids and growth hormones. They would be your worst nightmare. Incredible Hulk/ The Thing/ Mr. T Zombies. No wait, even better, Bruce Jenner zombies that can run and jump too. Let's add a bad ass Steve Urkel/Tupac zombie."

Then his buddies say,"Fool, pass the weed and shut up."

Thus, a silly B-Movie idea, along the same lines as Sharknado, becomes this incredible, magnificent piece of work.

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It is a possible explanation that is too good to be not true...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st7qtDpJ8pk

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Thanks bro, I'm hugging my throat right now,......WAIT, it's hard to breathe!

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Man, keep on breathing, you will need the air to deliver the following monologue before killing TOWTM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0cJBEMiN1c

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Come to think of it, in Chapter 39 when they find Randy his first reaction is to run away, have there been any other times when a zombie has run away like that? Typically I thought they would just start attacking, right?

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No there have been other times when zombie have run or hidden. Near the end of the war when Burt, Riley and Angel are making their last stand on the fire truck the zombies eventually give up and run away.

There is another time when it is mentioned that a zombie runs and hides behind a desk. I believe it is when the crew is coming back from saving Datu at the Arena and Ink has gotten in so the team has to clear the building. They find one in the lobby that hides (could have been a different part of the story, not 100% sure, but I know one hides)

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There is another time when it is mentioned that a zombie runs and hides behind a desk. I believe it is when the crew is coming back from saving Datu at the Arena and Ink has gotten in so the team has to clear the building. They find one in the lobby that hides (could have been a different part of the story, not 100% sure, but I know one hides)

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I believe that was the first incident we heard of a zombie hiding from the survivors - I'm pretty sure it was Angel who expressed his surprise.

Man! Catching up on 24 pages of forum is time consuming haha.

I don't have too much to add but it think it is funny all the theories that people try to extrapolate with so little info. Reading some of the theories felt like reading "well we know 1+1=3 so the answer is green" haha

I'll make a few predictions and wait impatiently for Mondays episode

- Duncan/Skittles had nothing more to do with anything than we have already heard. It wouldn't surprise me if we don't hear from this character anymore. He has served his purposes already (and I think the voice actor has a lot going on so trying to get him on again would be difficult anyway)

- Ink has nothing to do with the 'Families'. He had no problem tearing apart the Mallers. He was never at Eastern Bay. I think these story lines are separate.

- Ink is at least partially zombie, he was shot in the chest, jumps out of a window, runs super fast, is unfazed by being shot in the hand. I believe he was also the one seen by Datu in the Arena who killed Samantha. He tore Paul apart with what we can assume was with just his bare hands since there was no mention of a weapon by Pegs who I believe saw it and recounted it to Michael.

- #7 eating the normal biter is mostly out of hunger but also is eliminating competition for food. Just like any other predator who kills one of their own, it is a struggle for survival. With so few humans left, food is scarce for zombies just like it is for humans.

- Just like all the chapters have multiple meanings, I'm starting to think the shows name 'A Zombie Story of Survival' will start to reference how the Zombies struggle for survival as much as the humans are struggling to survive.


I think that's all I've got for now. Can't wait till Monday :-)

There was an instance in the previous chapter when they found the note at Raydon Labs (the shopping list) which Michael described as having "strange symbols" written on it. I wonder if any of these match the tattoos that Ink has on his face and hands.

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Perhaps it has to do with the fact that,...(don't tell Kc I told you!), that these are just "monsters" roaming around in Michael's head. Yes ladies and gents, it seems Michael took another good wiff of his experimental mixtures and has taken a bad "trip" to la-la land. When he wakes up, IF he wakes up, we all go bye-bye.

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I thought of something similar to that back while listening to season 1. What if this is just a crazy nightmare or a bad acid trip or something? Haha Michael is just a junkie that is strung out right now

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I thought of something similar to that back while listening to season 1. What if this is just a crazy nightmare or a bad acid trip or something? Haha Michael is just a junkie that is strung out right now

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I would call Michael a masochist, too, if he imagined Pegs (and her behavior) to be in his trip.

What drives me the most crazy is the purposeful ambiguity. Even when we think we learned something, there is still uncertainty. For instance, the tattoos. We hear, he bribed Cohen to do it to him. But, is the he referring to Ink or the somebody who smuggled in the pens?

So, now we know that Ink was Tattooed in custody, but not sure if he did it to himself or not. Both possibilities make a good story. I favor it was done against his will, because the term inflicted was also used.

Hell, just going back to Chapter 2 and the TiVo. He was convicted of killing last May. So, does that mean he was convicted one year before the outbreak or was the murder a year before the outbreak and he was only recently convicted?

Getting all :tinfoil: What was the councillor's name? Nick Rivers? What does the pregnant PhD psychiatrist want to name her baby boy? Nicholas? Do I have that right?