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you could say the same thing about soldiers clearing a building, but on more than one occasion fatigued and battle weary soldiers have been shot in the back by enemies who are playing dead. not only that, hershel is old, his wits may be sharp, but not nearly as sharp as they had once been. balls drop all the time, in fact, i dropped two back when i was 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon_Tyler
think two, maggie is one of two surviving daughters, out of a family of at least five, more when you count the extended family and close friends that were on the farm before the crew arrived. what would you do when looking for your daughter in the middle of a zombie infested prison? how steady and observant would you be? can you garuntee that no matter what happened you'd keep a level head? plus she was running around with that asian boy, what's a father to do? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
*badum pish*Quote:
Originally Posted by reaper239
Now, as for the better shots having better rifles, that would make perfect sense if the situation was dire enough. However, as it was shown, Carol almost shot Rick, and her contribution was arguable. She would have been of safer use at the fence, stabbing eyes out plus it would have conserved ammo.
As for the scouting the way to the medical ward, there wasn't really any much better ways to do it than they did, I admit that. However, they went in too fast and too light. Granted, the swat gear gave them some additional protection, but considering the actual swat members were killed and they were in much heavier gear, that shouldn't have given them such a sense of invulnerability. I will grant that they were scouting, but I maintain that they did it in a really retarded way. Did any of them even have guns with them?
Now for securing territory, that they simply failed to do. They were overrun, yes, but from every direction, including from the rear. Again, guns might have been helpful to break through the first wave so they could have retreated back to their strongpoint.
Granted, they're not soldiers trained in urban warfare, but some things should be just common sense
the same argument could probably have been made of carl, but he was in the tower as well.we don't really know how good a shot the others are at this point since we haven't actually seen any of them shoot in this season. even in previous seasons, the men did almost all the shooting, and we never saw glen engage targets at any kind of real range. it might also come to the physical strength of stabbing a wlker versus firing a rifle. i'm not saying your wrong, just playing devils advocate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luna Guardian
regarding scouting, no argument that they did it poorly.
the only problem that i see with the claim that they completely failed to secure the are is that there were multiple halls leading to their position. it's difficult to take down a building of that size and scope properly and safely. they failed to a point, but some of it was just poor fortune. of course that doesn't absolve them of their mistakes, the biggest one being their speed, aggression, and equipment.
here's how i would do it: my best hand to hands would take point with two with handguns in the middle and two riflemen bringing up the rear. we would take it low and slow, approach each corner with caution and lay alarms across paths we didn't take. to notify me if anything entered the hall behind us.
Here's how I would do it:
Knowing that there's a probability of zombies, make a little noise behind the door and attract ¨possible shamblers, as to avoid unpleasant surprises. Reasoning: If they're there, they're going to get to us anyways, so it's better to set up a chokepoint and a place of our choosing.
As a Soldier, I disagree. There are Rules of Engagement in battle. There are no rules that you have to abide by in TWD. EVERY corpse that I came across would have been stabbed in the head with a tire iron (or similar weapon). I can't believe that the group made a mistake like that and Herschel got bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by reaper239
That being said, remember how we saw what Shane was seeing while he turned? I want to see if One-Legged Hershel has new insight like people do when they die, "see the light," and come back to life. Did he see the light, or did he see something like Shane did?
I thought that Michonne was the one looking at Carol cutting up that walker, but the previews didn't make it look that way. I think that it's gonna be Merle!
The week to week suspense is killing me! Time to get my zombie fix on by listening to We're Alive - The Zombie Story of Survival! I listened to the first four chapters this weekend... I can't wait to see what happens in chapter 5!
The idea about the choke point is so true. It's why I liken TWDto a Sunday stroll in which you only move in a straight line - the people are so idiotic and one dimensional and unlikable that I am not sure I can even stomach this entire season.
I have trouble wrapping my brain around bringing the sole medical personal with you into a room to room sweep. The doc should not have been there
The worst part about the show
The convicts said they were locked in the cafeteria for some ridiculous amount of time like 9 or 10 months or some nonsense.....okay so they had food but
WHAT DID THEY DRINK?
HOW DID THEY SHAVE?
WHO CUT THEIR HAIR?
Even if there were answers to the latter two questions (they smuggled in a year's supply of razors in the middle of a zombie apocalypse), WHY would they bother to maintain their hairstyles?
Also, how did the Caucasians and Latin gentlemen stay so tanned?
It gets better - 1 well fed guy will produce over 300 pounds of excrement and well over 100 pounds of urine in a year's time. Multiply that by five and the cooler they were pooping in would not be big enough, plus the ammonia in all that urine in an enclosed space would kill them. Even if it didn't, it would not only bleach their prison jumpsuits, but cause them to disintegrate.
Plus, the smell....wow. Imagine how much sweat they would have produced in that amount of time - they would have looked as though they were covered in crude oil and probably filled with parasites like scabies. Plus, scurvy!
I quite literally hate myself for watching the walking dead religiously, but it is quite literally the only game in town as far as zombie tv shows :/
You think those issues are bad? Then answer me this, who cuts everyone's grass in the zombie apocalypse?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon_Tyler