Chapter 40-3 Monsters

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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington

As far as I can tell: CJ did not know R2Da2 until she woke up from the surgery on her leg; before that it might have happened that Saul might have mentioned R2Da2; but that wouldn't be enough to say that CJ "knows" R2Da2 well enough for longer than just the last four months. But I agree in that way that during the last 4 months she had plenty of opportunity to understand R2Da2 well enough.
Infact: she knows Glenn much longer than R2Da2, because it was Glenn she put into one of the many safe-houses und who fueled the idea of repairing the broken sat-phone ... Maybe you confused the names? *g*

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:) Probably.

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Originally Posted by scbubba

Yes! Most definitely this ^^^^^^

It's one of the reasons managing techies can be so challenging. On one hand, they'll have something that "can't possibly fail" so they don't take proper precautions or prep correctly. On the other hand, something "would never work" and gets put off or ignored until someone else actually does it (causing big ego wounds).

More points against CJs real world leadership skills. And more for her background as a "but here it is on paper!" type...

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Hm, we both know these people, do we not? :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9SVhg6ZENw

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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington

As far as I can tell: CJ did not know R2Da2 until she woke up from the surgery on her leg; before that it might have happened that Saul might have mentioned R2Da2; but that wouldn't be enough to say that CJ "knows" R2Da2 well enough for longer than just the last four months. But I agree in that way that during the last 4 months she had plenty of opportunity to understand R2Da2 well enough.
Infact: she knows Glenn much longer than R2Da2, because it was Glenn she put into one of the many safe-houses und who fueled the idea of repairing the broken sat-phone ... Maybe you confused the names? *g*

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Didn't she wake up from surgery 4 months ago though? Or am I confusing the timeline?

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Originally Posted by Unit9014

Boiling it down... the reason I don't like her is she doesn't care about the people around her, only what they can do for her. The reason I don't like her is that I doubt she will be sad that Glenn and Jay and Datu may have died or turned, she will not be sad at the loss of good men and friends, she will be upset that her best units of technical production are gone and nothing more.

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Pretty rational, safe way to be in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, if you ask me.

CJ is business-like and clinical indeed. But I think that's a pretty normal reaction when so many around you have died horrifically. Some people go in for making human connections, others go in for shutting down, and self-protection. And to be honest, its the latter type that would probably do better in the acute stages of a zombie-eat-person world.

I'm not saying that CJ has always made the right decisions, or is a great leader or anything. But I can totally understand her character traits that everyone else seems to so dislike.

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Originally Posted by ZombieWildfire

Pretty rational, safe way to be in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, if you ask me.

CJ is business-like and clinical indeed. But I think that's a pretty normal reaction when so many around you have died horrifically. Some people go in for making human connections, others go in for shutting down, and self-protection. And to be honest, its the latter type that would probably do better in the acute stages of a zombie-eat-person world.

I'm not saying that CJ has always made the right decisions, or is a great leader or anything. But I can totally understand her character traits that everyone else seems to so dislike.

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Perhaps I am wrong and this is an attribute she developed since the outbreak, but I don't think so. The vibe I am getting is that this is just her personality and always has been. There is a difference between not developing attachments to people as a way of easing the pain of they die, and acting like a queen/dictator working your pawns as hard as you can to achieve the maximum output. I see CJ filling the latter role. We see examples of the first type with Michael and Tanya trying not to get too emotionally attached to people and it is a very different emotional response than what we get with CJ.

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Originally Posted by Unit9014

and acting like a queen/dictator working your pawns as hard as you can to achieve the maximum output. .

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But, given the stakes, is this a problem or a virtue? If she didn't try to (And I'm not saying she is succeeding) get the most out of the colonists, they'd all have run out of water, fuel, and goodness only knows what else. Like I said earlier on in this thread, she's damned if she's cautious and damned is she isn't.

As far as I can remember (though I do have an utterly terrible memory), we've only really seen CJ since the outbreak. And it seems to me that she has changed. To me, she seemed a lot more emotional with her tower folk, then she seems to have become harder and more cautious after that got Inked, and as time has gone on and limbs have gone AWOL, and now she's reaching breaking point on account of the colony's situation again, and she's starting to make more emotional decisions. I think how she is with Pegs is a slight indicator of that.

then again, perhaps I am just dead inside, so I get her :p

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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington

Oh, damn me ... I am SOOO SORRRRRY! I didn't pay close attention when I read your article for the first time. This very important detail slipped my mind. I feel bad ...

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No worries, no need to feel bad. We agree on this point and even if we didn't you still rock

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Originally Posted by Unit9014

No worries, no need to feel bad. We agree on this point and even if we didn't you still rock

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Liam never rocked, he might be called old as a rock though. :cool: *runs for cover*

KC, do you give group discount for renting the Arena? Our favorite pod-casters haven't gotten an ep up since 11/20 and the people need to be entertain.

Is it just me or is there someone else who has wished for the imaginary episode 37-4: What CJ promised to the colonists in order to win their hearts and votes?