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The only weapon I have in my house atm is my pump BB gun. Id take that just till I find a real weapon. And the location id go to would prob be my schools cafeteria.... Its about 100 feet up in the air on a side of a cliff, 2 entrances that are far down a staircase, and 360 degrees windows for lookout.
Is one room in a building really feasible? In the long run you need somewhere that you can defend the WHOLE of, not one room. However, the cliff is a bonus. If you could defend the whole place then it would make a great place. I swear most school dinners are microwaved MRE's anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClearSights
I might just take you up on that offer, no name change tough, otherwise peoples won't recognise me.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
i'd get my guns and beat feet to my bug out location. isolated, secure, self sustaining, booyah, it really is a great place
Reaper,Quote:
Originally Posted by reaper239
So spill it dammit! Tell us about your Zombie Shangri La!
Yes tell us. If I get bitten I swear I won't stumble there before turning. Promise.
Seriously guys, do something, anything, just get prepped, if the least you can do is add a few cans of food a week to your normal shopping then do it.
The fact is the world Monetary/Financial system is on the point of collapse, you just know the US Congress will authorize a debt ceiling increase, even with promises of Gov spending cuts over the next decade it will amount to the same thing putting a Band-aid over a Sucking Chest Wound because it will do nothing to address the real problem- Fractional Reserve Banking & a Fiat Money based Financial Economy.
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'The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, "the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.'
-- Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006
if zombies attack i'm going to spesuti island. the army has secure facilities there.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
i did not know obummer said that. oh the irony.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nullifier
Walk the rail-road tracks for a while.
Would you have all your possessions in a handkerchief tied to the end of a stick and slung over your shoulder? Because that would be awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNomad
Hmmm, with the recent news that apple has more money than the US government I can see a future much like that of "Oryx and crake" (Margret Atwood). Countries ran by compaines, the goverment a non existent or a puppet body. Many large corporations already had a lot of influence within the US government and now it is becoming more and more apparent how much it will grow in the future if your citizens are not careful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nullifier
If I get a rifle skip the stick and I might just have a backpack, but I am a Nomad so it makes sense.
trust me, it's not just the US that's in trouble, there's going to be a violent shift in the world economy if we don't get our heads out of our collective assess. the problem is the US government overstepping it's bounds intruding into it's citizens live. i say we do away with the welfare system, all the people sucking off the government need to get off their duffs and do something. the government spends money it doesn't have supporting bums (yes i know there are people who legitimately need help, but more are abusing the system than honoring it) and running up more debt. and since the world economy is based on the US dollar, that means when the dollar crashes, everyones coming with us. now it won't be "end of days/apocalyptic" but it will be bad. that's my two cents. oh and obamacare is only going to make things worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solanine
rant over
As I see it - & this in not unique to American Politics is that ALL Western Governments have done the same thing, literally borrowed Trillions to buy votes today by promising certain special interest groups their cut of the pie & pushing the loan repayments onto future generations.
The Price of Gold has never gone "up", it is just a true reflection of the complete Devaluation of the Dollar.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if it hits $2000 per ounce by the end of the month because of the Debt ceiling being raised in the US, the average Joe will see their purchasing power evaporate & Brokers/Investors will be looking to get out of Funny Money (en mass) & into real money - Gold
The US Dollar will shortly be heading into High Inflation, shortly thereafter Hyperinflation, that'll be the End Game for the World baby.
OK.. enough with the politic'n. Lets focus this back on the topic of the thread por favor! Word of advice to keep the forum operating all PC and ish.. stay away from talking about Religion and Politics. Well, not just the forum, but everyday conversations. It'll save you a world of headaches, clenched jaws and keep you from throwing someone off the metro.
i see your point and concede... on the forums, however i am the least pc person you will ever meet, and in life i will tell you like it is. never censor yourself, certain people want us to be silent but that's what the first ammendment is all about, it is a garuntee to be offended because not everyone shares your views (btw crowbar, only the first sentence was directed at you, the rest was a generalization) alright that's all i wanted to say... be true to yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
Reaper,Quote:
Originally Posted by reaper239
you're talking to someone who's job it is to defend your rights. The very ones people like to flaunt, but not actually do anything about. Talk to someone else about rights your not fighting for. In the meantime, I'm asking you to stay on topic.
Sorry crowbar. Just discussing possible causes. I meant no offence. Back to topic. We have for politics in the uk, its called the houses of parliament. I here you have something similar? xD Back to topic. @TheNomad what exactly do you mean? You travel for a living? I may be being ignorant but I more picture a nomad living hunter-gatherer style, probably without internet connection? My plans change daily, The attic of a building near me looks inviting, as does a near by bunker system. I've said it before and i'll say it again, most people in the uk are sitting ducks. The strict firearms laws mean that not many people have guns and most haven't any experience shooting them. My thoughts are a crossbow which are commonly used for pest control would be a perfect every day weapon, any thoughts? Also I could probably find my way to a gun of some sorts as the rich often come near me to hunt deer.
What kind of monsters are we up against? How they change into better hunters. I am still trying to visualize what they look like. How long does it take the Behemoths to get huge. I am really curious on what people in the Navy would do. Seeing how the Japanese didn't start robbing looting and killing after the earthquakes I would try to make my way out of the U.S. to a place where people are more civil. But I know that would be near impossible. Regardless of how many weapons I would have, I would need to be surround by people I could trust. That would be the best weapon. From watching so many zombie movie I figure people are the threat you have to worry about the most.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
Hmmm, I never really gave it much thought. I suppose I thought we were in a more realistic situation. For Z-day that is. I reckon that L4D/ WA zombies would leave the average citizen with very little chance of survival. I mean if the Z's had only human capabilities e.g. their strength reflected that of the body previous to turning, then I reckon we could survive well enough. But Behemoths, runners and jumpers make survival less likely. Even the fact that Wa zombies seem faster than the average human. I agree though standard rules of engagement seem like a good idea. If we wanted to get really nerdy we could split up into three threads Wa, shamblers and a mid point.
SPOILER
Probably did the same as a 3rd of them did just prior to Katrina hitting New Orleans, buggered off out of the state to save their families, when it comes down to it, they are just like anybody else, over the last couple of generations, people have been conditioned to look toward an authority figure to guide them during a crisis, I've seen it first hand, people wonder around aimlessly with blank expressions on their faces with no idea what to do, you have to break away from that sort of thinking & realize that when it comes down to it, the only person you can rely on is yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by dontkillburt
Brevard.. welcome aboard Troop!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brevard A. Smith
What would the Navy do? They'd die like everyone else. Those that are on the ships will survive of course. The type of threat is unknown. All you know is that "IT's" going to hell real quick like and you need to do something quicker in order to save your ass.
The Strategy remains the same no matter what. Now, your tactics will change depending on the threat though. But again, you won't know that until you've jumped in a hole and pulled it closed.
So, take a look at your city, your block or the county and try to figure out where a safe place would be and how would you defend it.
Like me for instance: I have 4 gun shops within 3 miles of my apartment. One highly fortified high school, one police training station, one fire department, 3 grocery stores, 2 CVS and 1 Wallgreens. I'm headed for the HS because of it's location and strong physical defense.
Solanine,Quote:
Originally Posted by Solanine
No biggie mate. There's just a time and place for all things. No censorship, just redirecting energies is all, plus Freedom of Speech is different than Freedom of Expression and that what was going on here.
Bug-Out-Bags (for self and fam): ready.
Weapons: ready.
Ammo: purchased.
Supplies: 6 month stored.
Alternate location: scouted.
Group: ready for notification.
Crowbar: handy.
Time to survive!
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heheh. Crowbar!Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijinpunk
Fossilised? hehe he. he he. he.
@gaijinpunk well done. as for me. Bug out bag not packed. No weapons (unless you count a crowbar and a hatchet). You don't need to reload a blade. Supplies ready to go steal them when the owners move on. Group I prefer lone wolf. Two at max. Crowbar tick. Time to fail.
...and I do count a Crowbar... I do, I dooo!
If all hell broke loose.... Zombies, EMP, Natural Disaster, Nuclear, Economic Collapse, Aliens, Extinction Level Event, foreign Army Invasion (unlikely where I live - USA) I would activate my continuity plan. Yes I have one! It sounds weird but after Katrina I got my house in order. That was an eye opener for me. Especially when more than half of the police force bugged out to tend to their own families. Where I live we don't have a city police force. The County Sheriff’s department would be tasked with securing a very large Area. I can't depend on them in a situation like this. So I started my plan... The plan of course differs with each scenario but let’s flip to page 42 shall we......yep there it is. Social Unrest (I think Zombies fall into this category)
Me personally… I would minimize contact with the outside world. I would hole up in my house. The people that travel are usually the ones that get “caught up” out in the wild. I would sit tight and assess the situation before I moved anywhere. If we are talking about zombies.. Then I would definitely board up the windows in my house. I don’t have a perimeter fence but I have an idea for one. I would gather up all the plastic trash receptacles in my neighborhood, fill them with dirt and create a ring around my house (2 deep / 2 High). This of course would take some serious effort but it’s an idea anyways… Once the SHTF I would load all my guns fire up my radios and see what’s happening.
Weapons
– I’m pretty squared away in this department:
Stag M2 - that’s an M4 / AR15 for all you non-gun guys / gals out there))
Romanian AK-47
Mossberg 500 Riot Gun (12GA)
Mossberg 500 Bird Gun (20GA)
Ruger 10/22 Tactical
Marlin 22LR Bolt Action
Sig Sauer P220
Browning .243 BAR
And about 10,000 rounds between them all!!!
Melee Weapons consist of Baseball Bats, Machete, a SOG Tomahawk, Golf Clubs and assorted fixed and folding blades.
Food – You can never have enough
I have about a year’s supply worth of food (for 4 people). Mostly vacuum sealed 5 gallon buckets of Rice and various other canned food. Ramen Noodles of course!
Water – The area I live has a high water table. So I would simply use a manual pump to get water. I have a jack rabbit pump in the event I need water or fuel.
Shelter – I live in a single family home. It’s not Fort Knox but it will have to do! It has a wood burning fireplace along with a safe room I built in the basement. The safe room was originally designed to remain intact in the event of a direct hit from a tornado. That should keep Zed out! I do have two fall back positions if my home get’s overrun. Neither of which are close….
Having said all that a jumper would probably jump through my Skylight and get me! LOL
That’s my Zombie Survival Plan!
But wouldn't they also house some nasty elements? Like criminals?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
If they're the 'Dawn Of The Dead *1' zoms, then we have various sporting goods shops to help us get by.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Jasper
If they're the 'Dawn Of The Dead *2' zoms, (or the WA ones for that matter,) well we're pretty much screwed.
Looks like I'd be headed for Jon Jaspers house. Enough resource to invade a small country by the sound of it.
Be a bit of a trip though.
We don't have quite the access to hardware over here (UK) and would mostly employ pre-prepared "Keep Out (please)" and "Please Behave Reasonably" signs, falling back, if necesary, on a last resort of harsh language.
But only as a last resort.
Personally I prefer Mr Jaspers chances to my own.
And when the semetex hits the fan, where can I find you? xD Pretty cool stash. Do you not run the risk of becoming a target?
That cracked me up! "Pre-prepared Keep out Please Signs"
Becoming a target: Maybe by Mallers... lol.... I don't think my "stash" would gather that type attention. And if it did they better have their shit wired tight! I can hit moving targets out to 200 meters with alarming regularity. :mad:
If you guys find yourself SOL in the UK... hop on a boat and set a vector of 2 7 0. Once you hit the banks of the US, head inland until you hit the Mississippi river. Follow that North until you hit the City of Minneapolis / St Paul. Continue to follow the river for about 25 Miles (40.23km) Hook left about 5 miles (8km) and look for the 3 500ft blinking radio towers. (Come to think of it they probably won't be blinking by the time you get here... :) I'll be in the house ringed with plastic trash recepticals! lol
I have nothing except kitchen knives :/ how do you think I feel?!
I suppose I would pack the car with food, medical stuff and other basic essentials. Anything I can pretty much find. I'd get my dog and leg it and probably my family if there is room haha. I'd stop at fuel stations along the way and pick up anything I could use as a weapon.
Yeah, americans sometimes don't grasp how F****** most britain are.
Maybe if I had a boat. And a crew. And didn't have the perfect survival place (Minus a supply of serious weapons).
"Avoid suspicion by not lacing you shoes in a melon field" Chinese proverb.
ROFL! Jasper, great plan man! What do you have for medical supplies? Our peeps in the UK will just have to get their hands dirty then. We'll have an island full of melee experts!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Jasper
We already are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g61xASD-24
Seriously though, its not so bad in some places, a nice sprinkling of hunting rifle's etc in combination with other weapons like crossbows that are often used for pest control. And fire.
Ima survive long enough to see the last zombie rot away.
First Aid.... I have a pretty good FAK (First Aid Kit) Nothing that would last forever but it should get me past the first wave.
Kit Includes: Adhesive tape, Antibiotic ointment, Antiseptic solution or towelettes Bandages, roll of elastic wrap and bandage strips in assorted sizes
Instant cold packs, Cotton balls and cotton-tipped swabs, Disposable latex or synthetic gloves, Duct tape, Gauze pads and roller gauze in assorted sizes, Eye goggles, First-aid manual, Petroleum jelly, Plastic bags for the disposal of contaminated materials, Safety pins in assorted sizes, Tooth preservation kit consisting of salt solution and a sealable travel case, Scissors, tweezers and a needle, Soap or instant hand sanitizer, saline solution, Thermometer, Triangular bandage, Turkey baster or other bulb suction device for flushing out wounds, Various pain relievers, Aloe vera gel, Anti-diarrhea medication Over-the-counter oral antihistamine, Aspirin pain relievers, Calamine lotion, hydrocortisone cream, Bloodstopper, Hydrogen Peroxide & a Splint Kit .... I might have forgot a few things but that's about it. :)
Ok, there's being prepared, then there's paranoia and then there's this. If there wasn't an ocean and so many Z's in the way, i'd be throwing my eggs in you basket come the end of life as we know it.