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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTQvnhNVgxQ
Edit: Also, we should entertain the idea that Michael doesn't complete these journals at the end of the story, but like, in Season 4, and then the rest of the story is told in normal form. I mean I personally am not too sure if the journals are even all written by Michael in the end - the beginning journal could have easily be written in Chapter 3 and then just continually updated.
Hey guys. First post here; been listening for about a year now, but finally got around to posting. Thought I'd post this theory I've had going for a while now.
Back at the arena, Samantha mentioned that they take they were playing with each prisoner taken from the VIP box was played with before killed. I'm thinking Ink was conducting a "survey" on people who he thought could be immune. This coincides well with why Randy did that snatch and grab mission to grab Tanya. It seemed almost perfectly coordinated when she left the Tower. Maybe they were able to learn something in their "research" to help track down immune people, like they smell different. I'm thinking these are the one's ink likes to use for his mutations since they appear to be resistant/immune to the normal strain.
But why didn't they grab Saul at the Other Tower and ventured out on one of his little projects? I'm thinking Ink was thinking bigger picture and wanting to eventually turn CJ, due to her obvious intelligence. How did the Zarmey know to head down to the colony? They followed Saul's immune scent/odor/pheromones. Now at the colony and just after a fight, they are ripe for the picking. Ink can get another ultra-smart (one legged) general and potentially grab a weakened Saul as well.
Predictions for the finale
-- CJ gets turned
-- Michael, Puck, Datu, Hope, Rielly, plus 2 pilots jump the pelican to the colony. Tanya get's left behind/ lost when the gas is deployed.
-- They land on the makeshift hospital's rooftop at the colony amidst a super shit storm,but not before dropping the decoy.
-- While trying to rescue the injured, they are hit hard and CJ get's turned.
-- Glenn, Saul,Victor and Lizzy hop on board.
-- GTFO colony.....back to .... the Other Tower.
-- Scratch siting on the trip back when hope spots her after ripping off her bandages.
So, you caught that too? I thought I was making much ado about nothing when I heard the coughs. Didn't realize that Saul didn't cough until you mentioned it.
Other oddities:
- When Saul and Victor were on the tower and one asks the other," Do you hear that?' were the zombies talking?
- Who opened the gates for the Swat Van? Another person making a run for it like Lenny?
- Sounds like Randy and Ink are on opposite sides of the Colony. Randy by the gate Ink by the police building - Where Saul, CJ and Victor held up while staking out the Colony.
- The guys at the Colony sound very sad and pessimistic.
- Will CJ recognize Randy? Will he recognize her?
- Kimmet actually WANTS to help survivors, as he orders the Black Hawk redirect survivors to a safer checkpoint.
- Something very odd happens at the check point when the man turns. Micheal seems to have a meltdown. Was Tanya injured? There was a sound of disrepair after the turner was shot. Was this due to the arrival of the Inklings or did they see a trampled or shot Tanya?
- I thought that was Pegs being examined by Tanya, at first.
- The turner at the checkpoint Slow turner?
bixby and gatekeeper... Both off screen.
And Sean, too. (unless he's somehow going to swoop in and make an 11th hour appearance, which doesn't seem likely at this point)
maybe its just me but i feel the fall of Boulder and Irwin happened way too quickly id like to have seen what life was like for those who went to Boulder, i don't know it all just felt rushed to me and what ever happened to the navy? i find it hard to believe the entire navy got wiped out. it's strange how the base commander never mentioned the navy at all or Micheal didn't ask about it either.
What I don't understand, and never will, is how when a person knows they're bitten or infected and knows what will happen to them and yet they still go into populated places..putting everyone in danger. By now everyone knows it's a death sentence and I completely understand why they do it (I understand psychology well, and I understand that some people just can't let go of loved ones or except fate) but to me it's a no brainer. You get bitten or contaminated, then at least try to stay away from people..Don't sneak into a convoy escaping to the last human stronghold possibly left when you KNOW your going to change. Thats just stupid and selfish. The only exception is when you are unaware your infected (i.e. got zomblood in a cut or in your mouth and didn't realize it).
Venting done, I feel better.
Marcus as well.
I was wondering if the coughing was a throw back to ground zero. Couldn't tell who all was coughing. Just Victor?
Never did make out what they were hearing after "Do you hear that?" but then again I was listening through the car speakers and not my headphones. Maybe (yet another) relisten....
I now think the SWAT van rolling out was an inciting event to get the action rolling. Oh, and to dash Saul's hopes of escape after Victor's suggestion of he and Lizzy getting out. Scratch is probably long gone by now....
I think you're right about Randy and Ink being at different (opposite?) sides of the Colony. I did get the impression that the behemoths were on the same side of the colony as Ink, though. Couldn't really get a good feel for which way they were looking when they mentioned the 2 behemoths and spotted suited a-hole.
I think Tanya's ok (well as ok as anyone can be at the moment) and is heading to the chopper with Michael. All the action was around killing the turner and the mass hysteria around the Zeds being just over the hill from the checkpoint.
Can't wait to see how we proceed from these moments of impending doom.... :yay:
so what we're saying here....is all bets are off at the colony.(all of them died there) but the original question was for pegs/kelly. Not at or anywhere near the colony.
KC and his misdirection...ha! Didn't fool us this time!
Or did he?
:hsugh:
The a-hole your referring to is from a way early episode:
Chapter 2 – The Two Things – Part 3 of 3
20:41
“The plea of insanity has been accepted in the case of Bill Roberts, nicknamed “Ink” after his numerous tattoos that cover him from head to toe, he was convicted of multiple homicides outside of Santa Monica last May he is currently being transferred to a mental health facility; doctors would confirm that he is paranoid schizophrenic”
So they have a paranoid schizo zombie on their hands at the colony, to me a very bad combo... DUN DUN DUN
Theory I didn't think of immediately, randy is the one controlling the attack on the colony. Pinstripes is merely checking out his adversary. My facts supporting this theory, pinstripes isn't on a roof shouting out roars like at the tower and he is also on the police station roof ( where saul and co surveyed the colony for weeks). Pinstripes chose this side because randy was on the other. And now to punch holes in my own theory... randy has tattoos now, who is the only known zed tattoo artist left? Pinstripes.
Good question. I'm trying to remember where we might have seen an instance of Zed organization when the "leader" got whacked. Can't think of one of the top of my head...
Makes me wonder, if Ink is really competing with Randy will he look for an opportunity in the fog of war to take Randy out and assume control of both armies (assuming that there are actually 2 Zed forces a the Colony).
Hmmm, or is Ink watching his creations in action (Randy, behemoths, inklings, and all his little creatures)?
Argh, the possibilities. Hurry up Dec 5th!!!!
Hmm, If I could go by Skittles info, the behemoths may. He said they tend not to play well with other. But I don't know about the pack, have we seen to different group of zombies work together before?
Yea, I said at the end of my post "Although a LONG time has passed".....I didnt immediately think Scratch could be the one driving the van, still dont, but figured it would make an interesting story and ran with it. Although, I was informed by my crackpot co-hort to not devulge the lack of confidence in a theory, so SWAT SCRATCH AWAY!!!!
I too recall hearing some distinct coughing and it made my ears perk up, not sure what to make of it though....good call...Did Ink/Randy come toting a haze-fog machine, and they're just waiting everyone out, that's why they haven't attacked?
Well, Witch_Doctor, I wholeheartedly hope that Tanya does the job. Because otherwise CJ and a spoon could be worse by far.
Warning! Being an Apple (iTunes) user - I will have to warn you - the following graphical depiction is quite EXPLICIT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO7Q1tMGE7g
As I finish listening to this weeks installment, I'm left wondering if maybe this /is/ gonna be the Last season. :P
Humanity marches towards (on runs panickingly away in a futile manner) extinction, and there's not much hope now. Its seeming increasingly likely that Irwin's gonna go up, and Michael et al will be conveinently on the chopper when it does (except Tanya. Now that she knows, either her or Saul will have to die).
The colony needs some Dues Ex Machina to survive this one. Maybe a Swat van full of explosives driven by our favorite diaster preparedness expert?
A idealistic believer in mankind still. In theory, you are absolutely right. But in reality, why should anyone care about somebody else at Fort Irwin. First of all, there are only sporadic family ties at best. Would these people hesitate if sacrificing you gives them the possibility to survive? Would you bet your life on it? Besides, the zombie has only scratched you, has he not? Come on, the bite has not really pierced your clothes, so what is the matter.
Yeah, these thoughts are selfish and egoistic - but sadly just human.
Before anyone else says it, I know that Bradleys are not tanks, they are "fighting vehicles". But tanks gives a better visual representation in people's heads and "Fighting vehicles" would just add to confusion.
I think the bigger question is have any MAJOR characters died off screen? As far as i know, all major characters to have died so far have died "on screen"-Tommy, Angel, Kalani,
Most secondary characters (people that have speaking roles but seem to exist solely to serve a function that advances the plot in one way or another, not to be a main character) have also died on screen-Bill, Durai, Latch, Samantha, Pippen, Bricks, etc.
Of those that haven't died on screen, such as Gatekeeper, Bixby, and Marcus, we are at least informed of their deaths.
So far, every time it has been implied that a main character has died, Such as Burt and Angel at the end of season 2, we find out what happened to them.
I seriously doubt we've heard the last of Kelly and Pegs. Whereas in a real life apocalyptic scenario its entirely plausible that someone could just disappear and you would never learn what happened to them, in a story like this I just can't see losing two main characters like that. This isn't real life, it's an audio drama. Not finding out the fate of Kelly and Pegs is just one big slow burn of a cliffhanger that will eventually be resolved.
Ever since they returned to the Colony, I've been expecting Zean to lumber towards CJ.
Ah, Mr Wayland, your are kind of a jokester! Who else would put somebody in a "fighting vehicle" which was designed by the Food Machinery Cooperation admidst the dangers of a zombie attack? How shall we call the crew? Living canned food?
All that said, Kc has championed the idea of a realistic apocalypse...and as you said, in reality...we may never know the fate of our lost friends....While I agree with you, and still believe Kelly/Pegs to be alive, or at least one of them....I would not fault Kc in the least if he gave us a dose of reality and left them forever hanging off that cliff..
He's said in the We're Not Dead podcast that he'd like to do some form of media with background information not tied to the journal/first person account format of "We're Alive"...he named the boat Pegs/Michael find, and Burt's backstory.....not outside his reach to eventually do a small bit on Pegs/Kelly after the resolve of this series, if he leaves us hanging....
Oh shucks! Now we know why the Colony was never scouted and/or evacuated. Micheal DID tell Kimmet about it.
Re: Who's in the SWAT van?
* Are they easy to hot-wire?
OR
* Who had the keys last?
Re: Coughing.
* Victor coughs EVERY episode. Get that man a Ricola!:p
* It's been commented that Saul is the only one not coughing. Tanya is the only one who doesn't cough when examining #2, The Inkling.
Interesting Flashback Thought
* We get Spec. Anthony Robins' account/perspective of finding the Chinook, Not Pvt C. Thomas'.
The event at the Colony is looking more and more like the asault on Helms Deep. Orcs, Modified Orcs with markings, Trolls. Skittles and Mr. Whiskers had better show up soon with an army of California Redwood trees or these guys are screwed.
vice cough: victor was a smoker....think back to him smoking a cigaro on guard duty, I'm highly doubtful he's had one since then, partial explanation of his constant cough...does not however explain why Burt was also coughing..or Glenn being a little more winded than normal when he brought them the satphone(and don't give me the "he's old" line..thats a cop out and y'all know it.). Also entirely true...tanya is the only one not coughing.
Hotwire the swat van: while I'm entirely unfamiliar with swat vans...its gotta be based on some form of the "big three" American auto manufacturers...if you know the right two wires.....yea...done and done.
That's all. Now get out of my office.
So here is my crackpot theory:
- Burt survives episode 36 - come on, he survived Scratch for months.
- Lizzy is safe, too - nobody likes listening to zombies gnawing on a pregnant woman
- Pegs and Kelly will be back
- Scratch will be absent
- Fort Irwin is done
- Randy is actually revealed to wear a fake beard which he acquired from a filming location on Hawai'i. (We have not heard a lot of Found recently, have we?)
Aww man. Now I'm gonna have to go back through the episodes and listen for any and all coughs. I'm gonna have to get some better headphones.....