Aw broseph, I was just playin'. :love: Theories are what keep this place alive. :D Don't let me deter you. I'm just a dick. Seriously... ask anyone who has been here more than 8 months.
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I'm trying not to GODDAMMIT, but there's this guy Kc who beholds the mighty pen,...err, keyboard and once he has a little glass of wine there's no telling what he'll do to us!!! I mean look at my man Angel,....SPLAT, IN YO FACE!! LOL
or 8 minutes...... ;) just joshin'
One of the really interesting things to me is Tanya gets bit by a slow turner. Thus it slowly turns her but she's cleaned it and (presumably) pumped herself so full of whatever that it stops the spread.
But how does one start the slow turning transmission? Did the guy who bit Tanya get bit by a slower turner himself? What starts the chain reaction of slow turning?
I finally got to hear this while making dinner. What was I making, you ask? It was...
CHEESE AND AGED RICE, that was a thriller of an episode. (no, seriously though, I was preparing dinner for the fam when I finally got to listen to this episode.)
This is going to be such a torturous two weeks.
Burt sounded a lot better than I expected. I guess Marines aren't built like him anymore.
I have a morning ritual that I need to share. I call it 'the terminator'. First I crouch down in the shower in the classic 'naked terminator traveling through time' pose. With my eyes closed I crouch there for a minute, visualizing either Arnold or the guy from the second movie (not the chick in the third one because that one sucked) and I start to hum the terminator theme. Then I slowly rise to a standing position and open my eyes. It helps me to proceed through my day as an emotionless, cyborg badass. The only problem is if the shower curtain sticks to my terminator leg. It ruins the fantasy.
Wait... how does Victor know that Angel just died???
I've got a NEW THEORY cooking up... something about all the main characters being linked via mental telepathy... :p
Oh great, now we've got to worry about watered-down zombie spit? So what if a passing zombie slobbers on a beer bottle, then you come along and take a swig, not seeing that little bit of Z-spittle on the glass, then BA-ZOWIE!!!
Ah shiiiiiit... you're gonna make me actually work for this one? Hold on...
.....aaaaand found that timestamp.
That bad-ass, head-smashing husband dude is mentioned at 4:50 back in Ch. 4-3, "Rules & Regulations"
*cough* *cough* Like I said *cough*
I wasn't able to hang out at the computer for these as they rolled in, so bear with me please.
Indeed. Are we talking Family in the Blood sense or in the Mafioso sense?
One segment in that final conversation, I immediately rewound and turned up to make sure I heard Scratch correctly. THE Family. My first thought was The Family from Torchwood: Miracle Day. I just so happened to be re-listening to "Mark of the Beast" yesterday and again now. Part 2/3 at 8:23:
"They will follow us and find us no matter where we go. That thing on the ground is just the beginning, and Durai understands that."
It would seem that Durai (and possibly Scratch) know a whole lot more about what is going on. With the rings now having come to light, I wonder if maybe The Family had something to do with, or had inside knowledge on the Zombie apocalypse.
Why would a secret society world ending conspiracy want/need "common" thugs and convicts? If The Family was behind it and they are as powerful as they would need to be, they would need 'agents' everywhere.
I was listening to Number Stations for a bit on the computer and my cat jumped on my keyboard. Since Zune was open to get the above time code, she managed to push the Play button hot key and launched an episode of WA. That was CREEPY. WA Soundtrack with Number stations in the background.
The timeline seems to be consistant for Frederick "The Angel" Tenuto to have been his grandfather though.
Take away Scratches knives and stick them in all her vital organs, in alphabetical order. Chefs do that, right?
My crackpot theory is that the entire retelling is a deposition being taken by a lawyer. (other then Kelly) From a jail cell. Micheal's Jail cell.
Your method of editing for brevity is perhaps... telling.
I doubt Angel was a going around with LA gangs slingin' rock and jackin rides. I'm sure he did enough to get his nose a little dirty but all in all he was a Boy Scout. The Military isn't big on kicking you out based on your family... Mohamed Farrah Aidids (Somalia warlord and all around dick) had a son that was in the USMC, I think no one in the military would care if Angel had a wise guy for a dad.
I started listening a second time, and got depressed being reminded Angel was dead. He went out like a Gangsta. A couple points I noticed in the re listen. After the second war scratch said there he is, I found what I looking for. I would assume that the “Kalani's still alive” theories would fall apart. Also CupCakeZombie mentioned it first, but Puck said, “we've checked infected blood once, but there's no difference we've been able to tell”. I'm not sure what that means, but it seems significant to me.
Great episode thank you KC and the crew!
Burt was not exactly legit, remember the weapons, explosives and silencer(s)... would not be surprising if he would find some former customers among the Mallers.
hello.... this is my first post so bare with me.... i'm not usually one to be on forums but this story has got under my skin so i couldn't stay away... there have been a few things said in this thread that i want to comment on: first... withe regards to Angel's possible criminal past. Any trouble he may have gotten into with the law as a minor would not have come up in a backround check as the records could have been sealed (also, during the recruiting push for Iraq, the military relaxed many of the rules regarding accepting applicants with non-violent criminal records). second...the theory that blood is not the carrier of infection...what about Tommy?
Aw crap I can never unread this post. It will be in my synapsis forever. Riley have you got a drink?
In the words of the virgin mary "Come again?"
And yet another apropos movie quote "On a long enough time line everyone's survivability is zero" RIP Lt. Angel
I've always thought of the infection as something like mutated rabies. From what I understand, the only way to test an animal suspected of having rabies is to kill it and examine the brain. So, maybe that would also be the case with the zombies. Also along those lines, I believe anyone who works with animals (like veterinarians) get rabies vaccinations. That might explain Tanya immunity and if Saul had helped her, it would explain his as well.
A better death? How about a heart attack while banging Riley?
At least, that's how I want to go, heart attack while getting lucky.
The brain exam is the definitive answer for diagnosing rabies in animals. In humans the victim goes through a number of tests including hair folicles, serum, spinal fluid and skin biopsy tests. I know that veterinarians are fairly well versed on rabies as they vaccinate animals all the time and have to answer questions from clients about the disease. I doubt regular human doctors would know much about it as it is rare in humans these days. I'm not disparaging doctors by the way they are overloaded and why would they keep current on something they might never see.
Man...... Angel is dead..... I knew it could have been a possibility from the war but I always figured he was alive but now he was shot and most certainly dead... Burt better break out reveal where the maullers are (collapsed tower? Hospital? They did find doctors.) and meet up with Saul Vic and CJ. I imagine that going down like CJ sees him tells the other 2 and they recongnize him
Thanks for the rep BTW, Litmaster.
In reference to your question, if the theory that "The Family" was either behind or privy to the outbreak before it happened, would Angel have known about this? I would say no, from the "conversation" with Scratch, I gathered that he was trying to distance himself from them as much as possible.
I'm kinda getting a bit of a "The Skulls" vibe from it. You may leave, you can turn your back, but you can never truly get out. I wonder when he did make his decision to leave? Was it early on? In collage? In the Army? His joining the military could have been merely part of him trying to win favor and gain rank within The Family, much like you did in Skull and Bones.
What level of family are we talking here anyway? Mafioso or New World Order Age of Reason Conspiracy? If you want to reduce global population to 500 million, then Zombie plague is as good a way as any. Weed out the weak so only the strong and clever survive.
As it seems that the outbreak may have had geological origins, if the Family had prior knowledge, then we could have an ancient secret society on our hands, perhaps even following prophecy.
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More random thoughts:
Saul - Tanya
Datu - Samantha - Hope
Kalani - Hannah - Mallers - Tower 1 - Tower 2
Angel - Latch - Scratch - Durai
I get the feeling that we have only seen the tip of the connections iceberg. There is more to come, we are for all intents and purposes only about half way through this story.
I just realized how disjointed this is getting... I better post before it starts making even less sense.
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Poor Angel,
It's almost the same as what happened the Chef once Issac left the cast of South Park.
Shane leaves and his upright, uptight, wordy, health conscious soldier becomes a pile of unmoving messed up flesh that can only grunt, draw few letter words and turns out to be a made man.
Either that or it's a SuperBowl ring or one like Astronaughts get or Fraternity (I've run out of rings in Columbo episodes)
Nice to hear the Mallers and Burt back.
It is gonna be a long two weeks this time.
I havent and never wanted to comment on episodes since I became a fan but this episode deserves one.
I personally really never liked Angel. From the first time I heard him, he sounded like a typical officer. "My shit doesnt stink" kinda guy. Season 2, there was some points where he gained some respect in my eyes. Though he never moved into my "like" category.
This episode on the other hand jumped him from the bottom of the list to the top. Even when left for dead, broken, burned and barely alive. He held his ground protecting his friends. He died a Soldiers Death and deserves a memorial.
*Salute* R.I.P Angel Tunudo *Cut*
Tell Saint Peter "Another Soldier reporting. I served my time in Hell."
Now Burt!
I thought i was going to have a heart attack when I heard Burts voice.
All I can say is "Give 'em Marine! Name, Rank, Service Number! Dont give them ANYTHING!!!"
And yet, Kalani's actor of valor is roundly shit on.