Yeah, Michael should follow Kelly's example, I feared for the worst as he said: "Hey, Victor, take my arm." Sorry, it is rather a paraphrase and not a quote. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
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Also, Micheal says that the girl's (Mother's) arm was like a pin cushion, and inferred that she was the one given the drugs. Not the Inkling.Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
So, Ink may need a baby still in utero.
EDIT: New stuff follows.
If the Inklings were given the same body-building concoction as the Behemoths, then they must have some way to transmit those substances to the people that they infect, like the Chinook crew and the Boulderites. Seems like his Inkling experiments endowed them with some ability manufacture the proteins themselves. Also, anyone they turn would have the same ability. Would Ink's new attempt be different from the first two? Perhaps use the drugs and/or zombie infection during or prior to conception.
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Originally Posted by Litmaster
What a lovely mental image you left me......:britt:
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Originally Posted by Litmaster
What if both parents are zombies?
"My demon seed, your deviled eggs..." "It's like a recipe for hell monkeys" #YesDear.
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Keratin growthQuote:
Originally Posted by Eviebae
I think both the baby and mother together were #13.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
I saw it in my mind as: 1-12 = Empty beds, 13 = failed test subject left to rot after the Arena was abandoned.
1-12 are the Inklings that we've seen. After they were "born" Ink took them to the Hospital, tattooed them on the arms, shaved them, filed down their claws, etc. The mothers, whether they were human or zombie, were probably destroyed during the "birth."
Oh, and another random thought:
I'm thinking that the other tunnel is gonna lead to the hospital. It would have served as a way for Ink to get back and forth to his laboratories, and it would be a good way to bring the two story-lines together. (I don't know if anyone else has put this idea forward already.)
So the baby didn't have to gnaw it's way out or anything--we actually don't have any proof of that do we?
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When the mother dies the baby can be projected out of her body by the build up of gasses. If she died with the baby still in utero it would explain the umbilical cord being attached.
What the Frak is that a picture of and why do both characters have identical noses?Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
I actual had forgotten it was on today. Then when I did remember I could have swear that Datu voice is different. I will have to listen to it again. Did anybody else hear that too?
Ha Ha Haaa! It is from a sitcom called "Yes Dear" about two sisters married to two VERY different men. It's like the couples version of 'The Odd Couple.' In this episode they wonder why is it that they have the unruly kids, then conclude that it's in their genes, hence the quote about his demon seeds and her deviled eggs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviebae
I just thought that it was speaking a little clearer or with a slightly different accent. I did, however, notice that he is MUCH livelier and jovial than the last few episode. He's back to is wisecracking ways. Even called Micheal, 'fatty'.Quote:
Originally Posted by werewolf
LIT'S REACTION FOR PAGES 5-8 OF THIS THREAD
Evie's Wisdom
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Originally Posted by Eviebae
Ha, ha.... you are a wise woman indeed, Evie! :nik:
Michael's Deja Vu
Yeah, that was what Kc was going for with this little tidbit of characterization, I think. Much too reminiscent of his arm-breaking escapade with the Behemoth back at the water works...Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneraLee
Zomb-baby Death
This was my assumption as well. The description was a bit unclear; Mike was saying something about how the baby and mother were still 'joined at the mid-section' (not a direct quote), which made it hard to visualize. Best I could come up with was that the baby only made it halfway out of the vagina when both baby and mother died. Both were apparently just left like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jannit
LIT'S REACTION TO PAGES 9-10 OF THIS THREAD...ALL CAUGHT UP!
A Good Woman is Hard to Find...
Right, which makes me wonder where his is going to find any. If Mike is indeed right and he is still in the baby-morphing business.... who is left alive to serve as pregnant hosts? Is there some pen of captured, unturned slaves somewhere we don't know about??Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
Ink Perfecting His 'Craft'
Now that's an interesting idea. I wonder, if Ink does somehow have a stash of pregnant human women somewhere... does he how have an EVEN MORE POTENT formula, designed to create something even worse than the Little Ones??!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
Society's Worst Nightmare
Not much worse than if you had a demon-child spawned of Paris Hilton...Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
http://earsucker.com/wp-content/uplo...on-650x456.jpg
...and Macaulay Culkin!
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Blood Trails
You know, I think that basically explains the blood trails between the birthing beds and the pile of bodies: the trails weren't leading FROM the pile, they were leading TO the pile. Methinks Angel and Riley were cuddling up close and personal with the remains of those twelve mothers.... :nik:Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
The Fortress that is Ink
I don't think so, but this makes a lot of sense. Jesus, I'm thinking Kc has built up too much of a badass antagonist in Ink-- how the hell are our heroes ever to defeat this guy? He's smarter and a better planner than CJ, is a better leader than Michael, executes better than Saul, is tougher than Burt and Victor... WTF? Our guys are pretty well out-matched in this apocalyptic chess game... :nik:Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
Projectile Babies!
Somehow, this image came to mind when reading your post:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviebae
Either that, or the Mata-Gun... :D
Datu's New Reality
Dunno, but the fact that he isn't particularly bothered by the horrors of the Arena is somewhat unsettling....Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
I noticed that someone sounded very different when they were counting off the numbers on the floor. I thought there was a fourth character in the room with them for a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by werewolf
EDIT: I had to go back an re-listen. It's at 18:37. The voice that said "six." Who was that?
I do believe that in the parlance of the internet, the word we may be looking for here is Squick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm
As abhorrent as the thought is, taking it up yet an other level of just plain f*cked up... I'm going with impregnated by Ink because I think that the rote instinctual loyalty of the offspring to parent might have been a both a desired trait and an important factor in his plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrRedBeard
Now that you mention that, I seem recall that one of the side effects of the many drugs that have been called out by name was the premature growth of teeth in infants.Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
I would find that to be slightly weird... in Japanese culture (there is a Kanji tattoo on his face after all) the numbers four and nine are unlucky numbers and the number eight is considered lucky. To my recollection, not just lucky but also there are overtones of divinity and it is representative of prosperity.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Back in the late eighties, there was a big deal made about climbing Mount Fuji and reaching the summit for sunrise... specifically 8:08 AM on the morning of 8/8/1988.
My thoughts precisely. Sing it with me, to the tune of the Micky Mouse Club theme:Quote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
N-U-C-L-E-A-R B-L-A-S-T
Nuclear blast.
PAN-TEX!
Nuclear blast.
PAN-TEX!
They'll all be dead as can be!
My take was that the number was written/smeared on the forehead... she was the carrier of what was to be Inkling #13 but it failed. No remains of the other Mother Carriers because they were eaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
Listen back to the first episode(s) at the arena where we met Samantha. At first listen, the high pitched squeaking/squealing was Datu pressing/rubbing his face on the glass of the booth... I relistened to it several times later... it might have been the high pitched cries of the newborn Inklings.
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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
What an incredible episode and forum discussion! I tried to include as much from the forums in tonight's recording as possible.
Only now have I realized my error, having put this in the wrong thread originally. Hopefully I haven't messed it up again this time.
Seems like we'll be being introduced to the next wave of new and improved little ones. I'm doubtful that kc would start introducing new setting for where ink is making them now that steps are mostly being retraced. Anyway wherever the little ones are being created should be linked up to ink's tunnels, which makes travel faster and safer for them while he's getting his pieces in place. It's also likely that the tunnels branch off to more of ink's past haunts. (The facility under cain? raydon?) ...the idea of ink and zombies zooming around on some sort of subway system is significantly more amusing.
I noticed that too, but I wouldn't think too much about it, I guess it's a minor editing issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
What I'm finding all the more tense is the impending reappearance of Scratch and Tardust.
Also, they're going to have a job on their hands getting Lizzy & baby out of the hospital without attracting the attention of the treehemoth.
Is it Monday yet? :nik:
Riley is truly a genius.Quote:
Back in Season One, she had it figured out. She pointed out that the zombies were drooling like dogs in heat at the scent of the broken sweat bottles. Zombies and sex dont seem to go together, Lizzy said, but now we knowthey do.
at least Im predicting so. Here me out:
At the Arena, Samantha mentioned they like to play with their food. Id like(hate) to think that this was in a perverse sort of way, and even when Samantha is on display she says: please, no. No! No wait not you. No! referencing that Ink was the one facing off with her, I think it might have been sexual assault. Gross, to say the least, but whos to say that Ink didnt have the same innate desires as his fellow hoard?
Tinfoil Hat Time
What if some of the Little Ones are Inks children? By birth and not rearing. #13 might have been his attempt and it failed.
I cant help but think Ink had a few Tahitian Nights with the poor ladies at the Arena.
All of this is fairly loose, and wild, but this show, even it its latter stages is still giving us HUGE surprises. which is awesome.
Don't you EVER say anyone is tougher than Victor..... He is the definition of macho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
Also, if the second tunnel lead to Cain Hospital, wouldn't that serve as a nice, secure/secret way to transport the babies from/to their birth area, to the "grooming" area? Without being caught/seen by those meddling humans?
And if it does lead to the hospital..... And Ink is trying to create more little ones..... Why do i feel Lizzy and the baby might be expecting a visitor soon....?
The problem with the Little ones being Ink's own children, is that the mother would have to master a gestation period to match a possum, or a gerbil, which would seem highly unlikely in a human. But, i could easily be wrong. It's all up to Kc......Quote:
Originally Posted by Footbutt
I wonder if the little ones are so violent because of the violence they saw in the Arena....... Datu says something like "Front row seats...." which sounds to me like the little ones and their mothers were in the VIP box watching everything that was happening in the middle of the Arena(Whatever happened to Samantha).....
Could there be something in what Ink was injecting them with that made them want to recreate the violence they were seeing??? and Ink left them in there until they were finally violent enough to kill their own mothers???
Somewhere, KC is reading these theories and going "NO! NO! That not where I'm taking this story! I'm not that sick!"
Agreed. Considering when the Little Ones showed up for the first time it is kind of unlikely that in this first group of victims Ink has forced himself up and into women.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
But the question that keeps me busy is this:
Michael, Victor, and R2Da2 have concluded that Ink seems to work on another group or generation of new beasts of prey. And "now" we are like one year into the zombocalypse. What does this mean?
a) Was Ink and his zombies able to capture more women? And were these pregnant women (again), or also fertile women for even more sinister and vile plans?
b) And what exactly does he do to / with them? And are more "Smart Ones" or a diversity of different zombies involved? After all we can be very certain the Ink did some experiments - and there would be no reason to stop here with experiments ...
c) In the light of the newest events: is there probably a new reason why Randy and his group of zombies tried to kidnap Tanya at the Tower? Our earlier thoughts that she was captured because them zombos might have needed or wished to use her medical skills is kind of half way obsolete - after all she was a woman, who was alife at the time Randy and his Zugs caught her - for what purpose? Breeding of new zombies?
Best wishes!
Liam
Or he is reading them going "You have no idea...... No idea at all......... MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
It's Michael. I didn't notice it being off, but I heard this from someone on FB too.Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
It almost sounds like he turned his head away from the Mic or something....... its like the voice is coming from further away or something that is making it sound different.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
I would have to wonder on how Ink would create more: It seems too late into the series to introduce a new kind of zombie: but i could be wrong. And the chances of finding a bunch of pregnant women in a zombie apocalypse, i'd assume, would be high: where if there were any pregnant women, they would be in a secure quarantine zone, such as Boulder and Ft Irwin, where it would be hard to enter and kidnap a woman without being noticed, not in a small hidey hole in the middle of an abandoned city.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Yes, secure quarantine zone ... Kc introduced different safe-spots for humans every now and then - the Tower, the Mall, Dunbar, the Colony, Ft Irwin, Boulder. But I think he would not work with something we do not know yet. Kc is a master of foreshadowing like crazy. I think it would be quite likely that we would have learned about another hold-out of survivors being overrun by them zombies, which would allow Ink to collect women.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
That is why I think it would be more likely that Ink would have captured more or less solitary women in households, in makeshift shelters, women's prisons/ jails, and/or hospital, where they would have no chance to avoid being caught and captured by Ink and his monstrosities.
Wieh #44-2 we know that Ink did something with 13 women so far. And if Michael, Victor, and Datu are correct with their assumptions, there must be more. Was Samanta part of the 13, or is she a member of a second group, or was she just zombie-food and -game like what seemed to be likely back then when we heard her and Datu's story in Season #1 ... ?
Currently Michael puts together many of the pieces we were wondering about for such a long time. But by doing so he also raises new questions. I am really, really suspicious what's going to happen next.
Best wishes!
Liam
Im with you here, I don't like the idea of Michael telling us "He's making more"...my mind is just saying no no no he's not. Don't try and mislead me lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
I am not able to comprehend why Ink is going to create new little ones. The more forces you have the better, yes, but it is not that hard to win a game of Sid Meier's Civilization (zombie edition) on chieftain level. Team Good surpassed the "We are pretty much fucked up" moment long ago. Without a deus ex machina event, they are down. So why the reinforcements? The die is cast.
After all Ink is a scientist. And I would not mind him going on an on and on with "researching" new breeds for sake of researching them ... :zombie:Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
And I agree: The survivors are beyond the red line. But I hope they find a way to get "out" of it ...
Best wishes!
Liam
Besides, I loved the Lord Of The Rings reference in the latest episode?
See, we got:
Victor - the ringbearer as he was married
Michael - the a bit overweight hobbit
Datu - who is commanded by Michael and has to remain in the middle position. He is able to read the evil symbols and knows how to cut across Mordor, eh, the Arena. In addition, his motives and the forces that drive him are quite ambivalent.
So, here is a picture of our little combo:
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Yes, their are infinite ways to improve your skills and weaponry.http://25.media.tumblr.com/43fd4de87...asibo1_500.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Is this photographic proof that the North Koreans have finally discovered Space Invaders? :nik:Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
Na, not so fast my friend! I guess that they just discovered the joy of Pong. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tonyhind86
They announced the news to the country via Kim Jong Un's official myspace page :nik:Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
I guess he wants to make a strain that can survive long term. The adults couldn't handle the sudden growth and change without cancers and growths. If this happened in the past--as someone suggested--and that's where the stories of Yetis; Big Foot or Windigos come from it must have burned itself out. Less population, unorganized so they were easier to kill. Plus, they couldn't even master Shuffle Ball Chain so a musical was right out.Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek