I wonder if the Little Ones have enhanced night vision.
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I wonder if the Little Ones have enhanced night vision.
1- here is s. bay Long Beach, CA via google maps - this is right in the harbor area (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&sa...ed=0CAgQ8gEwAA)
2 - Saul waited so long to write in the journal as he had to survive... SIMPLE! Plus I think he wanted to not think of what was happening to BLONDE and his mom and Lady.
3 - Recon Team - They were probably looking for the DOC in charge of the "experiments"... This Army is in need of intel as in the case of Michael being stuck in the Colonel's staff.
4 - items found - Vic/Saul will probably notice after they go thru everything later what they have, including the SAT phone. Will Saul use it or not is the question because we are assuming he knows who is on the other end of it. Will CJ steal it from them?
Thanks for that find. I wonder if it wasn't just general recon or scouting of the tank farms I mentioned, but were they scouting out this off shore oil well complex? Or any of the other three for that matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by COsurvivor
A few other juicy things in the "neighborhood."
The refineries for said oil? Another over HERE.
Notably large container yards HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE
New imported car transit yards HERE and HERE?
This one is a hike, but the one of the Defense fuel stockpiles underground here?
(Oh, and hello to you too Dave! Wherever you are.)
Watched? Am I missing out on some epic video portion of this podcast?Quote:
Originally Posted by Survivor130
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Originally Posted by Red Shirt
Apparently you don't know millitary guys too well. :) THIS is what they really went to find... :D
Where the men go when the women aren't looking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
When they aren't looking? They never stop!Quote:
Originally Posted by Osiris
Another great episode. I can't believe it is December already! That means Michael has fallen in line pretty well, and for the most part everyone has survived the past 3 and a half months. I cannot imagine what the mallers still have Lizzy for, but I am guessing we will find that out shortly. And just when you think there may be hope for surviving this, the Z's have created (or birthed?) their own creatures that won't go down right away and have their Freddy Krueger nails. Oh, and apparently super strength too. Can we formally blame nikvoodoo for the next 2 week wait? Good luck at the Audie's guys. You should win everything. This show is the best!
Were that true, the tower would never have fallen.Quote:
Originally Posted by daredevil
Why is everyone assuming that because Saul has fast forwarded to December than everyone else has jumped forward with him? Tanya could have slowly turned and long since been terminated. Riley could have gotten injured or worse in a training Op. the flight en route to Boulder could have had an issue or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamPaul
This is simply about Saul, Victor, and CJ nothing more as of yet. Lets not all get super excited and start thinking about Saul riding a Unicorn over a Rainbow to Ft. Irwin orMichael running through a field of grass into Sauls arms.
We'll know in due time what happens in the passing of the three months.
Pretty much the reasoning is because Michael jumped with him. Otherwise, his interjection into this week's episode makes very little sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullethead
What does Fallon say at 14:31 when he is marking points on the map? Something like, "Hey, what was that last (rev or ref) again?" This happens when they are waiting for pickup seconds before they hear the Tauntans.... er... little ones.
He ask's "What was that last route again?", to which his Captain replies, "Santa Fe".
Long time listener but first time forum user, so hello all! Something I've been thinking about the sat phone is it might be a moot point. Aren't military sat phones encrypted and pass code locked? Even if they are using a civilian model Saul and Vic won't know the correct reply to the challenge question. I guess if Michael monitors the chatter he would know Saul's voice and let the others at command know that he is friendly. If not it would make sense protocol would dictate that no communications would be made with unknown parties.
Yes, however if they have recently unlocked the phone and didn't secure it wouldn't it be open for them to use? I'm honestly asking, I don't know how sat phone encryption work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loyal Retainer
And welcome to the forums! :)
I don't agree with the idea that just because a person on one end does not know the codewords that the signals/comms officer would disconnect. I don't know if it would be obvious that the call would be coming from a military supplied sat phone. If it is then they would try to gain whatever intel you can in that call, even not knowing whos phone it is you're going to recognize that communication and gain whatever intel you can from it. Also, the world now is a completely different place, one where I think you are inclined to speak with anyone that may be attempting communication, let alone from one of your own sat phones. You filter the intel that you give away, but you won't dismiss communication just because of codewords. Codewords ligitimize/verify who's calling, not the right to call. There are procedures for how to talk to someone that is unidentified.
(not talking about unlocking the phone or using the correct channel or whatever you do on a satphone)
It was just a thought seeing how tight OpSec appears to be at Fort Irwin. They did not tell any of the survivors anything that they did absolutely not need to know. You're right I think the the comm's chief would try to get all the info they could out the people on the other end but that would do little good for Saul or Vic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robzombie
The SAT Phones I used in Iraq were just a beefed up civilian model with a 6 didgit pin that unlocked the phone (more than 5 consecutive tries to unlock it and it would brick the phone). The codes that the recon team used were more for the recieving end to make sure that the initiating party out in the feild weren't under duress. So if Saul manages to unlock the phone and make the call all he would need to do is give them a SITREP and they would all go from there. The same would do for if Victor was alone and found the phone... The Irwin guys aren't going to leave some dude stranded because he didn't know the challenge and pass for the comms, the goal is to save the human race not mire it down with details protocol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loyal Retainer
Another thing, if I was running operations I'd have that phone PIN on the inside of the battery compartment in case it did indeed fall into civilian hands, that way they's be able to make the call and get a rescue.
All of the models are different and pretty much off the shelf products. The one I had was a Motorola where our S-6 shop (the commo weenies) added the extra wizardry to the phone to make it more secure. Other teams in our Batallion had different models of phones.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
That said the one I had if you let the screen blank out in "Sleep" mode it would lock automaticly (it took about 45 seconds or so).
Well Michael has jumped forward too, and if anything has happened to Tanya or Riley or the Boulder flight I do not think we would have had Michael putting together a story part. I feel he would be gone if anything happened, at least not in the same position at the Fort. I think we might start seeing some more forwarding of time. In story time it has barely been a half a year and that is because this past episode jumped to late November early December. I think that by the end of the series we will be well past a year since the outbreak. Just my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullethead
I agree with Robzombie and Leedo2502. Just because Saul/Victor don't know the pass codes, doesn't mean the personnel at Fort Irwin would ignore them. Finding/rescuing survivors should be one of their main objectives so I don't think they would turn their back on a call from the blue.
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Of course you know who else has a satallite phone.
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Glen from the Colony.
Eh...im not ignoring that fact..i knew after I posted the first bit I should have been more elaborate in what I was trying to say. So ill give ya that bit...yes, he likely tattooed the little ones there...but far too many things elude to experimentation..
Vials...most common tat ink comes in small plastic containers...main reason to use a glass vial is for custom mixed colors..or perhaps the numbers are not just ink..but laced with drugs of some type...thats the real point I wanted to make with what I said the first go around. Also, the fact that the door frames were all blown out makes me think perhaps the was the origin of the behemoths, angel and kalani got a nice...up close look at one of them..and we got no mention of tattoos on them...too many things going on in that scene to simply write it up as a zombie spa....but that's just my opinion, and I'm crazy..so take it as you will.
Am I the only person who hears a gunshot when the Chinook fully sealed its bay doors? It's at about 17:26 in the episode. I am also wondering how the zombie that attacked her crushed her legs like that, it wasn't a behemoth or a "little one." it sounded like the regular run of the mill biter.
wait the hatch is closed? damn need to relisten to that now
Yes, literally JUST after the hatch fully closes there is a minor *pop* and to me it sounds like weapons fire from the interior of the bird.
I gotta tell you, I LOL'd pretty hard at that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
It could also be a heavy lock securing the hatch in place. Especially given the context of the hatch just closing, I'm voting for that explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gahbma
Beat me to it. I'm worried that Ink might get hold of one and dial up Fort Irwin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombiphobe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRcle...eature=related
I don't see the recon team going for any petrol products or cars. Anything they want at Irwin is going to have to be airlifted and transporting fuel by air is almost counterproductive as you'd burn up almost as much fuel that you'd be able to carry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Shirt
That said I think anything that they were looking for needs to fit on a CH-47. Maybe info from the USCG base at Long Beach? Or maybe Irwin is making a move to take out the Mallers and/or the Colony.
My official thoughts are that they were looking for other survivors while looking for signs of the Mallers and avenues of approach on the colony
But scratch is also a girl... One stops, the other starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Osiris
I agree with Nik. Most aircraft tail ramps are hydraulicly actuated and have large locking clamps that drop into place when they close. I'm pretty sure that's what we heard, the whine of hydraulics followed by a booming noise from the clamps that was quite distinct from the gunfire that preceded it.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
Is anybody else wondering what was so important about the map that the recon team made? It doesn't seem like there was any need to put boots on the ground just to scope out a route. They're bound to have highly detailed maps of the roads in LA, and other than the cracks in Inglewood the only major changes to the landscape are the roads blocked by traffic. The current status of the roads could be checked more easily from the air, or even by satellite.
There must have been some high value locations that they were tasked to scout. Visiting warehouses or stores that might contain strategically important supplies? Or maybe their mission was to leave something behind. Did they set up webcams to monitor key parts of the city?
They probably were not sent to retrieve the storyboards for LOST seasons 4-6, since the LOST production offices were in Burbank.
I'm with you on this one...my only other thoughts about the situation are possibly scouting for confirmed zombie "nest" locations in order to drop bombs on the bastards...death from a distance. I mean really..we seemed to be teased about other recon missions of similar nature...what other purposes could those serve beside location of the enemy(I'm genuinely asking..as I don't really know besides my own common sense approach to things)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leedo2502
I'm not entirely sure..but were we given any indication as to what the route they were mapping out was? I'm curious as to if they are following a specific route for them, or a route followed by the zombies...see post aboveQuote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
I’m not sure about the motivation for Ft.Irwin vs the Colony/Mallers. The priority must surely be the base and Boulder. If neither is in imminent danger from the Colony/Mallers then there is plenty for everybody to get on with and the Colony/Mallers can be left to their own devices.
I am wondering whether the mission was one of recovery, possibly in relation to an antidote/immunity drug, perhaps certain constituent parts can only be obtained from a specific lab or perhaps from a specific part of a specific type of Zombie!!!!
Maybe it was checking the direction the Mallers went after they scuttled off? Michael could still be ticked off.... scratch that, Is still ticked off.Quote:
Originally Posted by VEE