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Carl is put in an odd spot at the end. Kimmet says burn it, Michael says bring it back, and Carl, well what does Carl do? Who does he listen to? And all the while Puck sitting there with his mouth shut.
Just had another crazy thought! Lets say Carl loads up #2 and brings it back to Irwin. Then lets say as Tonya is running tests on it that it comes back to life and goes on a rampage! or... What if it is pregnant?! They were referring to #2 as a she after-all. Can the Zeds have babies?
The two on the ground killed from the air had similar qualities to the ones they shot later, however they weren't examined as closely because they got shredded from the air.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoff4D
Not giving anything away; just keeping on track.
Hey, direct confirmation! nice. Much Appreciation, thanks KC!
I figured the two on the ground that were shot by the Black Hawk side gun were shot to shit. They must have been turned by the Advanced Little One, so it stands to reason they would have similar qualities. I'm guessing that the restraints they found away from the helicopter came from the Private that was missing. Can't be 100% that he's turned, but the chances are good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
Just a quick reminder, Michael is not a Staff Sergent. The Private gets chewed out by Cpl. Puck for making that mistake. "Out-falcon-standing!" :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Penguine
He's a Staff Sergeant. She gets chewed out for calling him "Sir", which references officers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
[QUOTE=Adventureless_Hero;47273]I figured the two on the ground that were shot by the Black Hawk side gun were shot to shit. They must have been turned by the Advanced Little One, so it stands to reason they would have similar qualities. I'm guessing that the restraints they found away from the helicopter came from the Private that was missing. Can't be 100% that he's turned, but the chances are good.
Yea, I originally figured they were tore to shreds, but based on the reaction to #2 of "I swore I hit him more than this"...they were rather bullet resistant even to the M134, and left in reasonable pieces, worth investigating since the one directly dealt with was 'special'....was originally just speculating.
In my face! LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Kc
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Originally Posted by Kc
I started re-listening to the podcast (again) to get more of a fix than weekly, and literally AS i read your reply, KC, I started Ch 4-3 where Tommy says "yes sir" and Michael says "Call me Sargeant, or Michael. I'm not an officer, I work for a living."
Laughed loud enough to get some odd stares at work....best finish this project and get off the forums! whoops! lol
It's creepy how similar to insects the L.A. zombies are. I was thinking about how they hitch rides on helicopters and it reminded me of fleas. That and the way they have a hive. Thinking of them as insects creeps me out even more than just thinking them of zombies. Nasty ass insects.
[QUOTE=Hoff4D;47275]The two from the air, were shredded, but the #2 wasn't as bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
That's all I will say-
[QUOTE=Kc;47280]Say no more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoff4D
Matter of fact, didn't even need to say that much, I was sort of adding my speculation in the undertones as it were. But I appreciate the confirmation of at least my suspicions of damage taken ::yay:
I wish I had a spare $215K laying around. I found a working M134 for sale. :)
HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS GAME WORK!?!?!?!?!?!?!
--"How many ducks are hanging out on the lawn?"
--"The man loves his beef tacos."
--"Alright, go ahead Fowler."
--"Three tangos sit on a wire."
--"The Roman pillar fell on the fish."
--"Haha! That's a good one!"
Any insight would be much appreciated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersign_%28military%29Quote:
Originally Posted by ferroaj
It's much simpler than you think...
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Really great episode this round.
Usually michael is a bit milque-toast,
seeing that he is the general main character
(the blank slate everyone is supposed to get
along with) and although he's had a bit of a minor
character growth compared to everyone else,
i liked that there was a hint of something more
at the end of this... it was a nice cut away from
everyone else in the series w/new cool characters.
Son of a bitch. I'm a terrible code breaker.
Did anyone else hear some new sounds from the improved little ones this week.
To me they kind of sound like some of the dinosaurs from Jurassic Park, and almost like communication.
You know how you say something and immediately regret it?
I clicked off skype to end wnd #44 and thought "well fucking duh.... Carl's in boulder. He's the ticket to go there!"
Glad it didn't go that chalk because at least no one would guess adult friend finder narrator
As KC stated, sign/countersign, although this sign/countersign is pretty deep. When I was enlisted we were given a chart with numbers down one side and letters across the bottom, and the boxes had words in them. If you were challenged with, for example A7, you would respond back with whatever word was in that box, lets say Chicken. On the other hand, if you were challenged with Chicken you would respond back with A7.Quote:
Originally Posted by ferroaj
Have not heard any in play, but there are also things called duress words. Lets say the duress word/words are "chicken nuts". If you were under duress and talking on the radio or phone you would say something like "Did you know that chicken nuts are real? That should key in the person you are talking to you that something is not right. LOL.. bad example but it works for a simple explanation.
Funny. I had to think of Transformers-robots ... Communication? Maybe, not even unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakezombie
Hi there,
so, this episode goes deep into military-customs. Compared with what I knew so far this was a lot. Thank you very much.
Prediction mode:
1) The little one gets back to Irwin. Will Kimmet let Tanya or whomever work on it? Or will Michael and friends be quick enough to get it to Tanye, before Kimmet could stop them? Maybe, at least, some toilets will receive some cleansing with toothbrushes ...
2) Soldier amiss: Did he break the restraints? or was he able to unlock 'em? First case: he is a Zed, second case: how likely would it be that he was able to flee from 'em beasts? Considering their hunting-abilities and the turning speed I wouldn't go as far as saying he got away. It is more likely that he is either another little-one on the loose (more likely) or he was the little-ones' lunchtime (less likely). And if he is on the loose, how likely would it be for him/ it to reach Boulder? That again heavily depends on three factors: Do little-ones retain the knowledge of their former lives, and/or how much luck in finding or stumbling over Boulder should be involved, and/or do little ones freeze being exposed to low temperatures for a longer period of time? Q1: I guess so, Q2: maybe they have some kind of basic understanding of direction, Q3: one little one was attached to the Chinook for quite a while before it was able to breach the hull, which implies: no, they do not freeze even if exposed for a longer time.
So: #33-3 cliffhanger could be: Boulder under attack? Too far-fetched?
All the best!
Liam
As for bringing back #2's body, I think Michael will try to sneak the body in like he did with the other samples he's been getting Tanya. I think Puck already knows he has been doing this, because seriously did he really believe in the last part Michael was checking for ID. I think Puck will help sneak the body past Kimmet.
Who was the picked-up "soldier" on the Chinook? Seems as if most are thinking he is infected and heading to Boulder, but I'm thinking that's not the case. I'm thinking it's Skittles. He could have been wearing a uniform he found at the base and been mistaken for a soldier. They probably couldn't get much out of him and if he were in uniform they may just assume he was a soldier in shock. It might also be another Maller plant, not likely, put maybe? Another possibility, maybe Marcus isn't dead and is still playing Army. That might be a stretch, but it would be a surprise re-appearance.
Also, there might have been more than one stow-away on the Chinook. They may have gotten #2, but there still could be another that could threaten Boulder.
On a side note: I've been re-listening to old chapters and caught something in chapter 24, the person driving the tanker into the tower is named Puck. Is this a coincidence that we now have a Corporal Puck? It couldn't be the same person, since it's presumed the tanker driver was killed. Even if he did survive, there wouldn't have been enough time to get to Ft Irwin before Michael and company. Is it possible that tanker driver Puck and Corporal Puck are brothers? I don't have a clue how the two characters could be linked together in the story, but it seems very odd to have to characters with the same name and not have some connection to each other.Nevermind, missed this discussion earlier.
Possible, but... back at the colony they did experiments, so most likely Tanya has already compared infected/uninfected/her blood. However, Victor has said they never encountered the nasty ones like they had near the tower, so who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
I've got $20 if you want to go in together and buy it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguine
Awesome episode! I havent been put on the edge of my seat, taking in every sound like this since the first season. Well done KC.
Speaking of sounds, is it me or did the #2 sound like the Predator when they found it in the tree?
K.C. answered this one quite a while back. It is a coincidence and the two Puck's aren't related. Here's the link: http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...3622#post33622Quote:
Originally Posted by Condor
I felt Boulder was in trouble since I heard Michael object to Kimmet's order, yet I'm having trouble imagining a single little one that they know is coming to them could do much. Or at least, he should not be able to do much. I'm sure one way or another it will happen.
The introduction of the new character was a nice touch. KC had 20 minutes to present Tony and have him act meaningfully in the story, and I think he did a great job of that, I'd say he's a lot more characterized than Carl is, for example. I think he will stick around for a while. Very good actor, too.
my theory on the missing soldier is this:
early on in the podcast (3m 09s) the blackhawk occupants notice movement along the tree line, but quickly dismiss it - i think that was the missing soldier (Private Grigg?) who has been turned into an 'advanced little ones' and as this fleeting sighting of movement was between Boulder and the Chinook crash site - it suggests Grigg's is hot footing it towards Boulder :yay: for the season 3 showdown cliffhanger! as from 30-1 michael mentions how the chincook mission in longbeach was important quoting "the following was pieced together by various accounts, it might not be exact, but it was the best of what we know and its important to understand what happened and how it changed everything"! god damn you KC! :D
couple of other points:
2. Kimmet - also mentions the Army had also lost an outpost due to previous 'messing about'.. mmm.... perhaps some history here on zombie body examination
3. no mention of the map though - perhaps its with the Captain's remains?
4. how does Michael know about the little ones with numbers on? Which convoy is he referring to? the Dunbar Towers convoy or the the Maller convoy Lizzy was in? If that was the Maller convoy (which was attacked by number 5 - who also attacked from the trees by the way) and this was witnessed by Lizzy during '21-2 Mark of the Beast', and that information found by Saul in Lizzy's bag (the recorded messages on the tape) near the Ice Hockey Arena - this means Michael and Saul/Lizzy do meet up!
loving the sound effects on this one - outstanding guys! i was on the edge of my chair all the way though - desperate to hear another "GET TO DA CHOPPA" clip during the combat with the little one!
Saul and Michael were still in contact when Saul found Lizzy's recording. This was before the tower fell. While I do think they will get back together, this isn't evidence that they will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blood & Ice Cream
Questions, can someone explain how strong these restraints are suppose to be? I thought with this group they have something heavy duty to hold people down, especially deal with people who can turn. Also who got bite? Last we knew the girl was crushed not bite?
Lots of things can happen in a crash. Lots of things can also happen when a Big Little One treats your chopper like a sardine can. Honestly, the restraints were probably nothing more than wrist restraints similar to handcuffs but with longer chains.Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
And again, with the rider on board just because she was crushed originally doesn't mean she wasn't attacked once again by the Cling-On Zomb. She could have been turned from that attack. We also aren't exactly keyed in on how little ones change people so maybe being crushed was the reason she changed.
There's a mention of self-inflicted scratches on the little ones, meaning a simple scratch could turn you, in theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
I'm at a loss on this one. I can't tell if the signs indicate the bloke in restraints escaped using the gifts of an Advanced Little One or if he managed to David Blaine himself out of those restraints. Are they chains or zip-ties? Just asking, but I imagine they'd use chains. Wouldn't want a potential biter restrained with just plastic zip-ties. Still, I am leaning more towards the missing private being an Advanced Little One now, simply for the fact that as they followed the foot prints they came across the restraints and I believe they said they were bloody.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
Did they find the map? That missing private could have it on him; be he living or un-dead.
I am thinking the straps that are used to hold the Captain and the other soldier down are more like this...http://www.skedco.com/Military/casevac-tccc/sk-957. These types of straps are standard Army issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
They didn't say that Captain was changed. She was dead but still strapped to the litter. The Little Big One is a different female than the Captain.
Hai, that is what I gathered from the episode too. Poor Captain Long got eated all up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguine
My guess, based off the evidence; the Advanced Little One tore up some of the Chinook's wiring and caused it to go down, but not down so quick that they were killed on impact (or did they say one of the pilots died on impact?). The advanced little one probably took advantage of the unsuspecting soldiers after the crash. We can presume that it turned at least two of them since the Black Hawk crew had to cut down two biters upon arriving. Those two were probably munching on Captain Long's corpse. Poor gal. I hope she was dead BEFORE they started eating.
As for the missing private that was in restraints, I don't recall if he was wounded when they left L.A. I'll have to go back and relisten. If he was wounded, we can assume he became a biter. If he wasn't, we can assume that he had a snow ball's chance in hell of escaping. If anything his corpse is either hanging in the tree where #2 was chilling out, or he has turned into a 2nd generation Little One and is roaming the snowy wilderness of Colorado.
I GOT IT!!! The Chinook went down about 30minutes West/Southwest of Boulder. West/Southwest of Boulder is Breckenridge and Vail. What is in Breckenridge and Vail, CO? Ski Resorts! The Zombies are not going to invade Boulder. They want to get to Breckenridge and Vail for the 1st Annual Zombie Skiing and snowboarding competition. Makes sense. They are headed to their competition and only attack the soldiers cause the soldiers drew first blood by shooting two of them from the air.
As for the one human or zed on the ground and unaccounted for, he is the one putting together the event and is trying to be the first one there to make sure the ski lifts are still operational, and that skis and ski boots are available.
The movement they saw in the trees was Big Foot. But really, I am thinking when the Blackhawk veered slightly off course to check out "movement" that it was the missing soldier, changed. Atleast that is my theory. I think it would have to have a serious resistance to the cold being that the Chinook crashed in the mountains of Colorado, and it will be one hell of a hike from the crash site to Boulder.
Umm... Ok... back to work!
to me - the fact that a 'little one' crushed Captain Long is simply good tactics and further evidence of how intelligent they actually are
critically wound the leader of the human group = a slower and less effective fighting force, keeps the chinook on the ground longer, basically its a distraction because they then have to carry/drag her and not kill zombies whilst moving back to the chinook
I'm still thinking about Cheyenne Mountain. Isn't that where that nuclear bunker is? I'm hoping the story includes something from that place. There has to be a military presence of some sort there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguine
Wow, congrats KC on the advertisement for the Walking Dead!