Chapter 30- Short Term Memory Part 3

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Originally Posted by Z Sniper

Meatless?!!!

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I'm an omnivore myself. I wouldn't say "meatless," but I would say that some of the more flavorful bits have been left on the bone because we can "chew the fat" on the issue. I like plot development, like you pointed out.

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

Glenn is the new Datu. I bet the thing he was going to say before he was given the Michael Cold Shoulder Treatment from Cj was he could fix the phone. If Datu can fix a shot to shit helicopter, it stands to reason that Glenn can make a sat phone that's broken in half work.

Prince Glenn the Handy. That is all!

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I was thinking that Glenn was the new Tanya, always getting shut down just on the verge of saying something important. But I like your explanation better. I was so disappointed when Saul found the phone and immediately dismissed it because it was broken; I couldn't believe that the whole Sat Phone story was an elaborate red herring. If Glenn can fix it he will be my new hero.

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Originally Posted by Hellbringer

Ha! You say "IVY" and my friends say "Four Lieutenants Pointing North." Wait, by that logic, Victor could be one of them with his recalling of the "Never Eat Shredded -- (Wheat)" comment.

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LMAO... I just figured the whole "four LT's pointing North" would have been lost on the largely civilian crowd here, or get a whole Angel discusion brewing again LOL (sorry Ra1th).

And to nikvoodo; I deployed with the 4th ID and still had to think on it when the other guy posted what he thought the patch was.

Its not meatless. Just was not enough for me to chew on. Not much to speculate in the episode like previous ones. Was really hoping the Sat phone would be in working order.

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Originally Posted by Merlin1274

Its not meatless. Just was not enough for me to chew on. Not much to speculate in the episode like previous ones. Was really hoping the Sat phone would be in working order.

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Glenn's obviously gonna hacks it back together ;)

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Originally Posted by Privateer

Now that you mention it, it may quite have. Gonna have to listen to it again. A question, regarding that, is, well, were there any big ones with numbers on them?

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There probably wouldn't be. If the little ones grow to a behemoth, the number would probably stretch, morph and fade beyond recognition.

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Originally Posted by Hellbringer

I'm an omnivore myself. I wouldn't say "meatless," but I would say that some of the more flavorful bits have been left on the bone because we can "chew the fat" on the issue. I like plot development, like you pointed out.

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Yeah,...sorry about those damn typos!

I miss Riley.

Am I right in that I heard Glenn say that Roman now had a number on him? What happens you get bit by a little one and a tattoo forms?

Also I forget who beat me to it but I am HIGHLY of the mindset that Glen and Pete are either tracking northern survivors for the Colony or being watched. I mean the only time we can recall the Mallers letting prisoners go is when they have a special task for them (information) or when they were over run by Ink and his crew and just decided to bail.

So how is it that an old man with communications experience (highly vital) and Pete (well he is pete) were able to walk right out from under the mallers grip? And shame on CJ for not thinking of that sooner. As paranoid as she is you'd think that would be priority number 1 especially having heard where they are from and having known what that place was about from Victor.

On a personal note I hope the little ones don't become Bohemeths. I like the idea of multiple variations of zombies out there. I want to see more Jumpers and Fast ones (maybe some we haven't even seen before). Gives us some variety to the run of the mill undead.

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Originally Posted by Bullethead

Am I right in that I heard Glenn say that Roman now had a number on him? What happens you get bit by a little one and a tattoo forms?

Also I forget who beat me to it but I am HIGHLY of the mindset that Glen and Pete are either tracking northern survivors for the Colony or being watched. I mean the only time we can recall the Mallers letting prisoners go is when they have a special task for them (information) or when they were over run by Ink and his crew and just decided to bail.

So how is it that an old man with communications experience (highly vital) and Pete (well he is pete) were able to walk right out from under the mallers grip? And shame on CJ for not thinking of that sooner. As paranoid as she is you'd think that would be priority number 1 especially having heard where they are from and having known what that place was about from Victor.

On a personal note I hope the little ones don't become Bohemeths. I like the idea of multiple variations of zombies out there. I want to see more Jumpers and Fast ones (maybe some we haven't even seen before). Gives us some variety to the run of the mill undead.

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they didn't just walk right out, i believe glenn said they spent months planning their escape.

also, i don't think little ones become behemoths because we've had behemoths from almost day one and the little ones just showed up a few months ago.

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Originally Posted by Bullethead

Am I right in that I heard Glenn say that Roman now had a number on him? What happens you get bit by a little one and a tattoo forms?

Also I forget who beat me to it but I am HIGHLY of the mindset that Glen and Pete are either tracking northern survivors for the Colony or being watched. I mean the only time we can recall the Mallers letting prisoners go is when they have a special task for them (information) or when they were over run by Ink and his crew and just decided to bail.

So how is it that an old man with communications experience (highly vital) and Pete (well he is pete) were able to walk right out from under the mallers grip? And shame on CJ for not thinking of that sooner. As paranoid as she is you'd think that would be priority number 1 especially having heard where they are from and having known what that place was about from Victor.

On a personal note I hope the little ones don't become Bohemeths. I like the idea of multiple variations of zombies out there. I want to see more Jumpers and Fast ones (maybe some we haven't even seen before). Gives us some variety to the run of the mill undead.

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a few have mentioned in a couple different places about how could pete and glenn, seemingly two important people job wise leave.
glenn was the communications guy, who among the mallers was their communications guy? tardust. now, how well do you see tardust and glenn getting along? not very.

pete ran a shop...as in trading post...store..so a group of rowdy outlaws come rolling into town..what would you expect to happen at the "shop"?...yea. at the point the mallers took over, the "cushy" jobs became the unnessacary ones.

the thing im dying to know is which of the trio that left the colony came up with the idea to leave first? i want to believe glen/pete are on the up and up...but i could totally see a scenario where pete was 'gotten to" and glenn is an unwitting supporter to aid pete once they left...see above as to why glenn would be expendable in the mallers eyes..the great unknown in this is what if the roman guy was actually the mole?

and now for a lil crackpot action

what if......the Litte ones are born of behmoths? we do have evidence of behemoths in the basement of the hospital. we also have points in which the little ones are around the big ones exclusively. if you trace back all the things we know of the two types and look at it from a parents/children angle it makes sense...even if its crazy talk

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Originally Posted by Z Sniper

Meatless?!!! Come on people,....Kc just handed you a brontosaurus burger with a side of whale slaw!! All shoot 'em up, all the time gets old. My advice,...learn to appreciate the nuance. I'm sure you like (or hate) a lot of the characters for the simple reason that you've gotten to know them through the "slower" parts of the episodes. This episode gives you a heck of a lot if you read between the lines. First, Saul, CJ, and Victor have been shackled up for 3 months or so. Saul has now officially spent more time with these two than anybody else from the original crew, meaning, bonds have been created. A lot REALLY did go down this episode as some have you have noted. Not that I'm bias because I AM, but I liked where Kc took this one. Plus, there's a lot to figure out about these damn "little ones", and it's nice to gave Glenn and Pinche Pete back! Well, there you have it,...will you like some fries with that?

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I'm glad you brought up the fact that more than a couple of months have passed since the trio at Dunbar apartments was shacked up. Three months in Z-world is like 3 years. Bonds have been made, which is why I was just as surprised as Saul was when CJ grew a layer of ice over her heart. I can tell she is hiding her true emotions by trying to be as logical as possible. But like Saul said, "She's right." They need a plan. Saul has his heart in the right place. I love nothing more than for the hero to go charging in to the castle to rescue his love, but this isn't a fairy tale. Homeboy would get killed.

I also have to give kudos to Victor. He's really transformed into a loyal buddy. He has never met Lizzy, but he's already willing to go back to the place he barely managed to escape by the skin of his teeth just so he could see his friend reunited with the girl he loves.

I agree that this entire chapter was meaty; it wasn't a BK Steakhouse burger but rather a gourmet steak to be appreciated and savored in slow bites. If you want a heart-stopping, artery clogging burger revisit chapter 24. (Shit, now I'm hungry, lol!)

From here, chapter 31 seems like it could go anywhere. I think we could start off at Ft. Irwin viewing these passed few events from Michaels reports, getting to know what his team was doing in L.A. Or it could pick up in the Colony with Lizzy writing in her diary. Or shit, this seems unlikely, but it could even make a departure and go to Boulder, though I very much doubt it. I feel like the book has closed for those characters for the time being. My hope is, that the story will pick up at the Colony.

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Originally Posted by reaper239

they didn't just walk right out, i believe glenn said they spent months planning their escape.

also, i don't think little ones become behemoths because we've had behemoths from almost day one and the little ones just showed up a few months ago.

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I remember a few months ago watching a TED talk from Jack Horner who is America's foremost palentologist. He stepped through a number of species of dinosaur we've assumed were different until he asked the logical question: How come we don't see the children and adolescent versions of these creatures?

The reason being is in some instances like Triceratops and Torosaurs are actually the same animals...just younger. But because Triceratops were discovered first, it was considered it's own creature and this small "puny" Torosaur couldn't possibly be the same thing. But he has taken strides to prove it's the same thing.

I feel like it's the same idea. Just because we hadn't seen the Little Ones first, doesn't mean we have a new species of zombie. Roman is pretty much the missing link to me. If he turned into what was described as a little one (#12 dead in the field) and to me he sounded different than he did the night before, I'd say it's almost a slam dunk that the little ones are adolescent Behemoths.

And for your viewing pleasure here is Jack Horner's Ted Talk:
http://www.ted.com/talks/jack_horner...dinosaurs.html

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

I remember a few months ago watching a TED talk from Jack Horner who is America's foremost palentologist. He stepped through a number of species of dinosaur we've assumed were different until he asked the logical question: How come we don't see the children and adolescent versions of these creatures?

The reason being is in some instances like Triceratops and Torosaurs are actually the same animals...just younger. But because Triceratops were discovered first, it was considered it's own creature and this small "puny" Torosaur couldn't possibly be the same thing. But he has taken strides to prove it's the same thing.

I feel like it's the same idea. Just because we hadn't seen the Little Ones first, doesn't mean we have a new species of zombie. Roman is pretty much the missing link to me. If he turned into what was described as a little one (#12 dead in the field) and to me he sounded different than he did the night before, I'd say it's almost a slam dunk that the little ones are adolescent Behemoths.

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I can see how that could be in fact taking place in the Z-world. Perhaps Behemoths came to exist from Little Ones who were never witnessed as they grew up. But when I think back to the hospital episode in which Riley and Kalani came across the "devil's workshop", I couldn't help but noticed there appears to be two separate rooms. In one the duo witnessed a chair where various tools lay on a table near by; a tattoo pen, a couple of ink wells, and I believe some shears (presumably for the Little One's Claws).

Then there was a separate room that had a bloody bed (or was it also a chair) in which the door frame to the room had been smashed open as though something big had passed through. That, to me, suggests the Behemoths are created almost instantaneously. But, it's poor evidence. That's just the direction my mind is leaning towards.

I'm still going with the idea that these different zombie incarnations are different steps in a process to create the perfect zombie soldier in Ink's undead army.

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

I remember a few months ago watching a TED talk from Jack Horner who is America's foremost palentologist. He stepped through a number of species of dinosaur we've assumed were different until he asked the logical question: How come we don't see the children and adolescent versions of these creatures?

The reason being is in some instances like Triceratops and Torosaurs are actually the same animals...just younger. But because Triceratops were discovered first, it was considered it's own creature and this small "puny" Torosaur couldn't possibly be the same thing. But he has taken strides to prove it's the same thing.

I feel like it's the same idea. Just because we hadn't seen the Little Ones first, doesn't mean we have a new species of zombie. Roman is pretty much the missing link to me. If he turned into what was described as a little one (#12 dead in the field) and to me he sounded different than he did the night before, I'd say it's almost a slam dunk that the little ones are adolescent Behemoths.

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well, see i don't think so because look at this: it's been six months since we first saw a little one with a number on it, and after all this time they have only managed to get taller, not bulkier, and not giant sized either. and we first saw the behemoths within the first couple of weeks. plus we've never had a report of a behemoth with a number on it, and i think that would be kind of important, "big ass zombie, big ass number on its wrist, hey, i think that might be important."

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Originally Posted by reaper239

well, see i don't think so because look at this: it's been six months since we first saw a little one with a number on it, and after all this time they have only managed to get taller, not bulkier, and not giant sized either. and we first saw the behemoths within the first couple of weeks. plus we've never had a report of a behemoth with a number on it, and i think that would be kind of important, "big ass zombie, big ass number on its wrist, hey, i think that might be important."

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I agree. The numbering of the Little Ones should be higher if we've already encountered some Behemoths, no? Plus, Angel and Kalani never mentioned spotting any tattoos on the Behemoths when they looked one over rather well. BUT, in all fairness, tattoos don't stretch well. *insert 60 year-old tramp stamp image here*

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Originally Posted by reaper239

well, see i don't think so because look at this: it's been six months since we first saw a little one with a number on it, and after all this time they have only managed to get taller, not bulkier, and not giant sized either. and we first saw the behemoths within the first couple of weeks. plus we've never had a report of a behemoth with a number on it, and i think that would be kind of important, "big ass zombie, big ass number on its wrist, hey, i think that might be important."

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Someone a couple pages back pointed out that the tattoo would have been huge and distended past the point of recognition. Sorta like that joke that when you are young you get a tattoo of Madonna and when you're older it looks like Marvin Hamlish.

The first behemoth we saw was there within 2 months. Not weeks. We first saw a behemoth at the end of June/early July. If the little ones are still being made, the ones we are seeing could be still growing. For all we know behemoths are an accident. If they are being numbered for the purpose of keeping track of versions it could be that Behemoths are the accident, but the 6'7" skinny powerful version might be what was being sought after in the first place.

It seems like the specialized zombie types have only shown up around LA. Why so few and so limited a range? Could the Little Ones be part of a captive breeding program? An organized effort to increase behemoth numbers?

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

For all we know behemoths are an accident. If they are being numbered for the purpose of keeping track of versions it could be that Behemoths are the accident, but the 6'7" skinny powerful version might be what was being sought after in the first place.

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Hallelujah! That's exactly what I've been thinking. I am currently nursing the theory that Ink is tinkering with human dna and the virus in his Devil's Workshop. I would venture to say that the Little Ones are his babies; made from his blood and some genetic tampering. That's why he's numbering them. They are versions of him.

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Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero

I'm glad you brought up the fact that more than a couple of months have passed since the trio at Dunbar apartments was shacked up. Three months in Z-world is like 3 years. Bonds have been made, which is why I was just as surprised as Saul was when CJ grew a layer of ice over her heart. I can tell she is hiding her true emotions by trying to be as logical as possible. But like Saul said, "She's right." They need a plan. Saul has his heart in the right place. I love nothing more than for the hero to go charging in to the castle to rescue his love, but this isn't a fairy tale. Homeboy would get killed.

I also have to give kudos to Victor. He's really transformed into a loyal buddy. He has never met Lizzy, but he's already willing to go back to the place he barely managed to escape by the skin of his teeth just so he could see his friend reunited with the girl he loves.

I agree that this entire chapter was meaty; it wasn't a BK Steakhouse burger but rather a gourmet steak to be appreciated and savored in slow bites. If you want a heart-stopping, artery clogging burger revisit chapter 24. (Shit, now I'm hungry, lol!)

From here, chapter 31 seems like it could go anywhere. I think we could start off at Ft. Irwin viewing these passed few events from Michaels reports, getting to know what his team was doing in L.A. Or it could pick up in the Colony with Lizzy writing in her diary. Or shit, this seems unlikely, but it could even make a departure and go to Boulder, though I very much doubt it. I feel like the book has closed for those characters for the time being. My hope is, that the story will pick up at the Colony.

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Hey Adventureless, I gotta agree with you. A lot of little things to savor on this one. I mean, isn't this the first time we see Saul actually admit he's gotta think things over? Has our Saul gone and grown up? *getting all teary eyed*

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Originally Posted by Z Sniper

Hey Adventureless, I gotta agree with you. A lot of little things to savor on this one. I mean, isn't this the first time we see Saul actually admit he's gotta think things over? Has our Saul gone and grown up? *getting all teary eyed*

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Nah, he just found out his girl is pregnant and that kinda made him wonder if he's ready to give up his bachelor lifestyle. The dude is in an apartment surrounded by pussy...cats. Get your minds out of the gutter, cabrones!

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

Someone a couple pages back pointed out that the tattoo would have been huge and distended past the point of recognition. Sorta like that joke that when you are young you get a tattoo of Madonna and when you're older it looks like Marvin Hamlish.

The first behemoth we saw was there within 2 months. Not weeks. We first saw a behemoth at the end of June/early July. If the little ones are still being made, the ones we are seeing could be still growing. For all we know behemoths are an accident. If they are being numbered for the purpose of keeping track of versions it could be that Behemoths are the accident, but the 6'7" skinny powerful version might be what was being sought after in the first place.

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but when we saw the lab at the hospital it was abandoned. if they were still being built, why abandon such a valuable lab site for something that, unless it was previously stocked, probably doesn't have the same medical resources. so, let's say also that they have still been under contruction and that the little ones turn into behemoths: why are they still at 12? if the numbers are there to help keep track of them, why only at 12, shouldn't it be higher? and what about during the ambush in the tankers? lizzy made it sound like there was more than 12, so we should be seeing much higher numbers. and why haven't our heros been seeing more behemoths? i'd imagine that during idle conversation over the last chapter, it would've come up at some point that there has been a surge of behmoths in LA, that just seems like something important that KC would've worked in there.

now, i'm totally willing to concede that the thin mints were the real objective all along, or are a step closer to the real objective, but it doesn't make sense to me, based on the evidence on hand, that thin mints turn into behemoths.

I have a hard time wrapping my head around the shear physics of a little one biting a normal human and turning him into a little one.

Lets say Big ol' Burt is bitten. Does he all a sudden loose 50 lbs and grow a foot?

I'm not saying its impossible I mean we are in Zombie world so I suppose anything is possible. I just don't know how a bite, if we were to look at it as an infection of some sort, could cause human bones to grow.

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Originally Posted by reaper239

but when we saw the lab at the hospital it was abandoned. if they were still being built, why abandon such a valuable lab site for something that, unless it was previously stocked, probably doesn't have the same medical resources. so, let's say also that they have still been under contruction and that the little ones turn into behemoths: why are they still at 12? if the numbers are there to help keep track of them, why only at 12, shouldn't it be higher? and what about during the ambush in the tankers? lizzy made it sound like there was more than 12, so we should be seeing much higher numbers. and why haven't our heros been seeing more behemoths? i'd imagine that during idle conversation over the last chapter, it would've come up at some point that there has been a surge of behmoths in LA, that just seems like something important that KC would've worked in there.

now, i'm totally willing to concede that the thin mints were the real objective all along, or are a step closer to the real objective, but it doesn't make sense to me, based on the evidence on hand, that thin mints turn into behemoths.

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i just went on a massive tirade about this similar thing in the vip box...if little ones become behemoths...why do we have evidence of both of them at the workshop? if they are created at the same place and in a similar window of time....great. but the evidence now does not look that way. i dunno man...its quite the mess when you stop to think about it..kind of a chicken or egg scenario.

look at it this way..say the behemoths are accidents...big ole giants that mutated instantly...little ones grew more in the proper way....slowly. but now we have this roman dude...who by the time this chapter was over sounded more like a behemoth..in the course of what?..a thirty-six hour period?...yea..something does not compute here

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Originally Posted by Bullethead

I have a hard time wrapping my head around the shear physics of a little one biting a normal human and turning him into a little one.

Lets say Big ol' Burt is bitten. Does he all a sudden loose 50 lbs and grow a foot?

I'm not saying its impossible I mean we are in Zombie world so I suppose anything is possible. I just don't know how a bite, if we were to look at it as an infection of some sort, could cause human bones to grow.

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To answer that: It didn't grow overnight- But there were some reputable changes to give off the appearance dissimilar to the normal "biters". Roman didn't go from 5 foot 7 to 6 foot 7, if that makes sense, but it was enough to see a change.

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Originally Posted by Kc

To answer that: It didn't grow overnight- But there were some reputable changes to give off the appearance dissimilar to the normal "biters". Roman didn't go from 5 foot 7 to 6 foot 7, if that makes sense, but it was enough to see a change.

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I don't know why, but that made me picture Zombie-Roman running, pausing, putting on high heels, then shambling after the gang.

Anyway, I'm keeping an open mind. If I can picture Bruce Banner hulking out, then I have no problem watching a person turn into some twisted and nightmarish creature that once resembled a man.

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

A major thank you to Otto. I've been pondering all day if I wanted to start a thread similar to the "Save the Podcast" thread for WND because of the two individuals on facebook who have been complaining for the past month or so and have people sound off. But I think this just about covered everything that needed to be said.

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Thought regarding the patch: Wouldn't Saul have seen that before? Wasn't he stationed there at some point for training?

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I feel like in an answering mood after listening to the complainers on Facebook. I could respond to them directly, but I don't see any benefit to it. They want A->C and don't care about B, even though without it, nothing will make sense. Just one chapter back they were saying "best episode ever!", and then turn on you. OH, and also, for the record, I've been in charge of the outline of the story since day one. Moving on.

The patch... When you're there for training you are there with your unit, and the trainers sometimes aren't even seen by some of the troops sent there. So even thought Saul went there, it's feasible he wouldn't have seen the patch enough to remember it. And in the military there are so many- you lose track.

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Originally Posted by Kc

To answer that: It didn't grow overnight- But there were some reputable changes to give off the appearance dissimilar to the normal "biters". Roman didn't go from 5 foot 7 to 6 foot 7, if that makes sense, but it was enough to see a change.

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so, in other words, the changes happen slowly, but faster than would normally happen, enough so that it is noticeable that a change is occuring. is that about right?

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Originally Posted by Kc

I feel like in an answering mood after listening to the complainers on Facebook. I could respond to them directly, but I don't see any benefit to it. They want A->C and don't care about B, even though without it, nothing will make sense. Just one chapter back they were saying "best episode ever!", and then turn on you. OH, and also, for the record, I've been in charge of the outline of the story since day one. Moving on.

The patch... When you're there for training you are there with your unit, and the trainers sometimes aren't even seen by some of the troops sent there. So even thought Saul went there, it's feasible he wouldn't have seen the patch enough to remember it. And in the military there are so many- you lose track.

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zactly, my old man was in the army for 23 years and i remember like, two of his unit patches. and one was first cav, so that's like, obvious. during the time we were at hohenfels in germany (training base) i saw hundreds of units pass through for woodland training, but i can't remember a single patch. not only that, the NTC patch is one that would have only been seen a irwin, unlike other units you might see in transit, or at training, or on deployment.

Like I said earlier, I've been trying to be a good little boy about the facebook comments....but here's the one thing I'll say about that:

How is it that people can simultaneously complain that the story is moving too slow, but is also too fast and jumbled together as in we're rushing to the end?

First of all If the story is too jumbled, you aren't smart enough to follow. And should that person read this line: Good move not responding to my loaded compliment two weeks ago because I was about to destroy you no matter which way you responded.

As for the lady's critique: .....how is this going out with a putt? There are 5 chapters left this season and (in theory) 12 more. THE STORY HAS JUST REACHED THE HALFWAY POINT!!!!

Can we make these people grovel for forgiveness when they want to compliment the production again?

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Originally Posted by reaper239

so, in other words, the changes happen slowly, but faster than would normally happen, enough so that it is noticeable that a change is occurring. is that about right?

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I'll remain a little vague, but, IF the little ones were say 5 foot when they first saw them... and then 6 foot 7 - 4 months later. That'd be an average growth of .15 Inches a day.
That's not a spoiler or saying anything, just math.

The changes in appearance, pigment and such, were resembling more like the little ones at a faster rate than just a normal "biter". But height difference, if any, would most likely be negligible.


I say this and comment because I don't like the "Alien" or "Prometheus" ideas that creatures can grow mass without ingesting anything, as if physics didn't matter any more. SURE, it's science fiction, but that doesn't mean there's no room for certain parameters of believability.

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Originally Posted by Kc

The patch... When you're there for training you are there with your unit, and the trainers sometimes aren't even seen by some of the troops sent there. So even thought Saul went there, it's feasible he wouldn't have seen the patch enough to remember it. And in the military there are so many- you lose track.

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I wore the actual patch that was described on my shoulder for an extended period, and despite a clear description I couldn't place it before the big reveal. The subdued version of the NTC patch is really just a black blob on a green background, totally forgettable.

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

Can we make these people grovel for forgiveness when they want to compliment the production again?

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Me thinks there's other issues at play too. Reading other comments the the facebook threads the person in question was intoxicated and upset about something. Some poor audio podcast just might have been an outlet for them.

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Originally Posted by Kc

I'll remain a little vague, but, IF the little ones were say 5 foot when they first saw them... and then 6 foot 7 - 4 months later. That'd be an average growth of .15 Inches a day.
That's not a spoiler or saying anything, just math.

The changes in appearance, pigment and such, were resembling more like the little ones at a faster rate than just a normal "biter". But height difference, if any, would most likely be negligible.


I say this and comment because I don't like the "Alien" or "Prometheus" ideas that creatures can grow mass without ingesting anything, as if physics didn't matter any more. SURE, it's science fiction, but that doesn't mean there's no room for certain parameters of believability.

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o. m. g. he responded TO MY POST!!!!!!!!!!!! i am never washing this thread again.

ok, see i was thinking the little ones were more like 2-3 feet when we first saw them, though regardless, i see your point. so he didn't look too different physically, mostly cosmetically. did he also have a number or was i imagining that?

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Originally Posted by reaper239

o. m. g. he responded TO MY POST!!!!!!!!!!!! i am never washing this thread again.

ok, see i was thinking the little ones were more like 2-3 feet when we first saw them, though regardless, i see your point. so he didn't look too different physically, mostly cosmetically. did he also have a number or was i imagining that?

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No number was noted.

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o. m. g. he responded TO MY POST!!!!!!!!!!!! i am never washing this thread again.

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Simpsons modified quote: "I no longer control the thread the thread controls me!!!!"

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Originally Posted by Kc

To answer that: It didn't grow overnight- But there were some reputable changes to give off the appearance dissimilar to the normal "biters". Roman didn't go from 5 foot 7 to 6 foot 7, if that makes sense, but it was enough to see a change.

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That would explain why both Saul and Glenn felt as though they recognized or had seen Roman before. Ty KC.

Also regarding facebook...Haters gon' hate, just do you

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Originally Posted by Kc

Me thinks there's other issues at play too. Reading other comments the the facebook threads the person in question was intoxicated and upset about something. Some poor audio podcast just might have been an outlet for them.

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?! It wasn't ME was it?! I'm totally getting paranoid now as I drink quite a bit. But I can't ever see myself bashing WA. Still... it wasn't me was it?!

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Oh thank the goddesses. It wasn't me. I did get drunk this weekend but relegated my drunken posts to Battle Royale (japanese awesomeness) and Gaia.

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Originally Posted by Z Sniper

Thanks Cabbage Patch! I agree with you,...sometimes we just gotta let things happen, sit awhile, and then,...BAM, IN YO FACE!! Just like poor Angel.

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Agree!

Now, one of the two posting on facebook says they're no longer following us. To that, I said Farewell.

I'm so going to miss that profane waste of space...oh wait....no I'm not.