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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint View Post
    "most" criminals demonstrate a "failure" to foresee results - that's not to say they don't plan, they just don't plan iterations and potential consequences of action
    Meaning, maybe, the difference between criminals and prisoners.:P

    Seriously though, I hope KC continues to create characters that are allowed to change and grow. The more I know about PTSD and ADHD, the more it explains the behavior of a lot of criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikvoodoo View Post
    I'm gonna try to steer the conversation a touch: what if what Kc was talking about was a coordinated multi-front attack by the the zombies? Discuss.

    And as for why people in L.A. can wander freely vs. the Colony: who knows? Maybe it's because it just seems worse at the Colony because we weren't there as long. We don't know what a typical day in the life of a recon team is. Or it could be another example of one of my theories that the zombies attack targets that are bigger threats to their survival. The Colony would be far more threatening to me than the Tower would be on the surface of things. The reality is, the Colony is far more dangerous to zombie survival.
    You're right, we don't know the typical day in the life of a recon team, but my guess is we're going to find out a lot in the coming chapters now that Victor is in the tower. I'm guessing he's got a lot to talk about regarding zombie tactics and strategies, how the recon teams engaged and observed. If in fact Victor had several "sorties", he's got A LOT of experience gathering intel himself and surviving the "waves".

    It's mentioned that the walls of the colony had the markings of zombie attacks. I'm thinking with so many people in the colony, the scent is making these zombies a bit more aggressive in their "possibly" coordinated attacks.

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    Z,

    I was also referring to the ability of the Mallers to roam "their" territory fairly freely. A few people even asked about them being able to show up at the Tower with a good size force and not have any problems. If you look at the map, their area is pretty f'n huge!
    Now they have teams out rounding up deserters??! Seems like they'd just chalk them up as creature food instead of taking chances of losing MORE people to the infected.
    Those cats are roaming greater LA like it's the open plains during the Gold Rush.

    The Colony area seems to have a heavier concentration of the infected. Maybe the creatures are migrating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel View Post
    ...A few people even asked about them being able to show up at the Tower with a good size force and not have any problems.
    I noticed that. During the war the Mallers made all kinds of noise but the zomboids didn't come running til they dropped the sweat. I thought that was really odd. Plus, the Mallers didn't seem at all prepared for them showing up. Come to think of it, there were an awful lot of zomboids at that point, so maybe they were clustering kinda far away.

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    I think the zombies are learning.

    Yes, some of them start out smart, like the marked one and the ones who can talk. But I think the others are capable of learning, at least to some degree. For example, in the army base the zombies know that Angel can't see them. The jumper knows that they are in the other building. If you look at the first lot of zombies in teh army base the first time, they were really stupid. "We left the keys in the door". It just seems like, as the series progresses, the zombies are getting smarter.

    Also, the leader may have been a zombie for a while. Remember in the first episode, they mention how the mental asylum is only about 10 miles away. That's a big distance but not when your as fast as they are. We know that a marked serial killer was put in the mental asylum because he was judged insane. What if he had already been a zombie? As far as I can remember, they never mention exactly how he killed the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kafu288 View Post
    I think the zombies are learning.

    Yes, some of them start out smart, like the marked one and the ones who can talk. But I think the others are capable of learning, at least to some degree. For example, in the army base the zombies know that Angel can't see them. The jumper knows that they are in the other building. If you look at the first lot of zombies in teh army base the first time, they were really stupid. "We left the keys in the door". It just seems like, as the series progresses, the zombies are getting smarter.

    Also, the leader may have been a zombie for a while. Remember in the first episode, they mention how the mental asylum is only about 10 miles away. That's a big distance but not when your as fast as they are. We know that a marked serial killer was put in the mental asylum because he was judged insane. What if he had already been a zombie? As far as I can remember, they never mention exactly how he killed the people.
    That makes complete sense. The zombies could gain greater intellect the more they experience the world. We know that a good chunk of the human population was turned into 'them', and that means that there are a huge ammount left. And as the weakest ones die, the greater and stronger ones learn and live on. Natural selection in a way.

    But another question that's been buggin' me is "how exactly did the zombies realize that they should create a hive"? When you think about it, the arena is a large place that many zombies can fit in, and it could also work as a defencive structure for many MANY survivors... but how did the zombies actually discover to 'mimic' humans, and create their own bases of operations? Could they all be that smart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyehardjr View Post
    But another question that's been buggin' me is "how exactly did the zombies realize that they should create a hive"? When you think about it, the arena is a large place that many zombies can fit in, and it could also work as a defencive structure for many MANY survivors... but how did the zombies actually discover to 'mimic' humans, and create their own bases of operations? Could they all be that smart?
    That really wouldn't require all that much. At our basest, most basic: human beings are animals. Intelligent animals with higher brain functions (speech, self awareness etc), but still just animals. The basic instincts of similar animals to ourselves is to group together for protection, and community sharing. If you want to assume that the zombies in We're Alive have lost their higher brain functions (with some notable exceptions), it's basically causing the human race to devolve back to an earlier incarnation of homo-sapiens.
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    and if you take out a portion of the human brain you increase violence and bring human's down to a almost mindless level. Maybe the zombie "virus" for lack of a better word does this to the victims?

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    Two things I "Noticed" in the last episode:

    Victor wasn't with the rescue team (i never assumed he'd stick his neck out for folk he didn't know anyway).
    Saul called Riley "Frenchie." hmm... Now i'm thinking she may be North African instead of East Indian..

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    As you can find on Riley's wiki page, you'll find that she's French. So the North African / East Indian thought you had is incorrect.
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