Who's The Rat?

[cheesehead1493]

right but mabey Saul didnt tell them everything

[Ra1th]

saul did tell them everything, he was caught for larceny. He wouldnt end up at a state penitentiary for such a crime, like burt said, eastern bay is a place for the worst of the worst. Saul's a brutally honest guy and he cant lie for shit.

[StepLaugh]

It's lizzy, she's the rat!

That's why she got kicked out!!!

[nikvoodoo]

I'm so glad that since funny muffins and I went on a rampage last week, the number of Datu voters has doubled. Come on everyone! Join the dark side!

[WestonWisdom]

Hey, First off, I would just like to say, Hello!(Long time lurker, new poster) and if this is the wrong place for this, just delete it! , I also apologise if this all has been said before.

Anyway, Angel, Why is he the rat?

Firstly, I want to discuss who he was before the "outbreak" : Angel was a month out of officer camp, probably eager to showcase his newfound command skills in the months after his training, however, the "outbreak" cut his chance to do this short, and he appeared to be in a ill-informed position when they were all called in (he didn't know why they were being called in, only that they needed to go). Also, Angel appeared to be a big supporter of the chain of command, wanting to wait for the commander before taking action to protect himself and Michael and Saul.

Secondly, I want to take a look at his actions during R&R and the War. Angel arrived late to the party, giving him time to go down, contact the maulers and tell them that the party was taking place, and that it would be a good time to attack the tower. Also, Angels decision to wear his uniform, was this to just look stylish? Or was it an attempt to make him recognisable so that the Mallers, most(I also believe that Scratch had a previous relationship with him) who wouldn't have seen him before? During the War, Angel appeared to be holding back, such as suggesting placing the Hummer against the door(an action that would seem logical(conservation of ammo)), but would also serve to keep some mallers alive(Burt would have just kept shooting).

The main motivation for me writing this post has been Chapter 20-1, which I believe showed evidence towards Angel being the rat. Firstly, when discussing the leadership of the tower, Angel appeared to be pretty annoyed that he wasn't even considered, this could be a sign of ongoing resentment towards the leadership of the tower, as I said before, Angel is a great believer in the chain of command, and as Angel outranked Michael before the "outbreak", he could have contacted the Mallers in an attempt to reestablish the chain of command, or as revenge against Micheal. The second piece of evidence in Chapter 20-1 was Angel's willingness to go back to bed rather than deal with the situation, and his excuse was kind of weak "I was exhausted", was he hoping Burt's decision to let Lizzy stay would cause a split in the tower, taking advantage of Michaels absence?

There are probably some things I missed, but I just wanted to write.


Edit : Sorry for the mistake in making a new thread!

[Th3_T3ch]

My vote is on Kalani. His story doesn't add up. He said he landed in LAX, the map clearly shows that the pumping station and the strip mall is in the immediate area, I know we don't know the location of the other tower but it doesn't seem that the mallers would just allow a great place like the other tower go unwanted. Kalani also had guard duty the first day he was there, that gives him ample time to tell the mallers about the tower, the main people of the tower, and the theft. It would also explain why Durai didn't know Pegs. Kalani wouldn't have thought her an importance to the mallers. Kalani could have slipped into the guard room and radioed the mallers that the best option for attack was tonight, he then left the radio on channel 18 when he left. Kalani didn't fight the mallers and when the mallers were defeated he became a brown-noser to try and stay informed about the tower.

To conclude. Kalani is the rat. He is a smart maller. He eventually got scared and started brown-nosing Burt and Angel.

[nikvoodoo]

My vote is on Kalani. His story doesn't add up. He said he landed in LAX, the map clearly shows that the pumping station and the strip mall is in the immediate area, I know we don't know the location of the other tower but it doesn't seem that the mallers would just allow a great place like the other tower go unwanted. Kalani also had guard duty the first day he was there, that gives him ample time to tell the mallers about the tower, the main people of the tower, and the theft. It would also explain why Durai didn't know Pegs. Kalani wouldn't have thought her an importance to the mallers. Kalani could have slipped into the guard room and radioed the mallers that the best option for attack was tonight, he then left the radio on channel 18 when he left. Kalani didn't fight the mallers and when the mallers were defeated he became a brown-noser to try and stay informed about the tower.

To conclude. Kalani is the rat. He is a smart maller. He eventually got scared and started brown-nosing Burt and Angel.

That's a solid theory, but here's my question to you: If Kalani is a maller, why didn't he radio them when he was in Maller territory? When they were in contact with Scratch about Latch's body, why not just shoot Angel and rejoin the rest of his Eastern Bay compatriots? He had a gun and he would certainly have the element of surprise. What is served by continuing to be in the Tower, which has been totally wrecked, and weak? If he was a Maller, the opportunity to turn on the Tower would have been right then when he was close to the Mallers and could easily rejoin.

[WestonWisdom]

That's a solid theory, but here's my question to you: If Kalani is a maller, why didn't he radio them when he was in Maller territory? When they were in contact with Scratch about Latch's body, why not just shoot Angel and rejoin the rest of his Eastern Bay compatriots? He had a gun and he would certainly have the element of surprise. What is served by continuing to be in the Tower, which has been totally wrecked, and weak? If he was a Maller, the opportunity to turn on the Tower would have been right then when he was close to the Mallers and could easily rejoin.

Nik, Perhap Kalani is playing the long game? Devils Advocate.

[nikvoodoo]

Nik, Perhap Kalani is playing the long game? Devils Advocate.

Quite possibly. and that's all I'm doing with NJ's theory. I'm playing devil's advocate and making sure everyone thinks nice and hard

I don't see any benefit to playing a long game if Kalani is a Maller. If you shoot Angel dead, how does anyone even find out? Everyone in the Tower would just assume Angel and Kalani became Z-bait and Kalani goes home.

[WestonWisdom]

Quite possibly. and that's all I'm doing with NJ's theory. I'm playing devil's advocate and making sure everyone thinks nice and hard

I don't see any benefit to playing a long game if Kalani is a Maller. If you shoot Angel dead, how does anyone even find out? Everyone in the Tower would just assume Angel and Kalani became Z-bait and Kalani goes home.

Kalani appears to be clever, at least, thats the the way I have interpreted him from the way he talks, if he foresaw a position where he could deliver the tower to the mallers, I presume he would work towards it?

But I really don't think he is a maller, the fact that he is clever kind of removes him from the Eastern Bay crew(Eastern Bay isn't full of people who cheated on their tax returns). I don't mean to say ex-cons aren't clever, my theory comes from the fact that Kalani's story has always seemed just crazy enough to be true in a zombie apocalypse.

I also presumed that people would probably go looking for them if they didn't come back, at least after Michael returned to power.