Chapter 42-3 Chasing Ghosts

[Litmaster]

Yeah witch doctor, I agree with your assessment. Certainly, based on their bombing of the arena, the mallers clearly saw Ink and company as being a significant threat, and had far more Intel on what the zeds were up to then our heroes did. I wonder what Scratch knows about Ink that Michael and CJ do not at this point?

[tonyhind86]

Remember Burt when the Mallers were attacking the tower? He said "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". How ironic would it be if the Tower survivors had to form a partnership with Scratch to destroy Ink and co.

[Grognaurd]

Remember Burt when the Mallers were attacking the tower? He said "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". How ironic would it be if the Tower survivors had to form a partnership with Scratch to destroy Ink and co.

Yeah witch doctor, I agree with your assessment. Certainly, based on their bombing of the arena, the mallers clearly saw Ink and company as being a significant threat, and had far more Intel on what the zeds were up to then our heroes did. I wonder what Scratch knows about Ink that Michael and CJ do not at this point?

Just thought of something. Seems to be a small bit a parallel between how Puck thinks Ink is and how dangerous Durai thinks Ink is. Puck returns from the jail and tells Michael that Ink must be stopped or he'll wipe out all of them

According to Scratch (Mark of the Beast), while looking at #5's arm, she says that Durai knows what's to come. Did he know Ink or someone familiar to Ink, pr-outbreak. Someone transitioning from jail to prison?

I have been entertaining those thoughts. Dont Latch and Scratch discuss that Durai has plans for those tankers while he is spying on them? That is only 7 to 10 days into the outbreak. I know there is a prejudice to put that event closer to the party, but those things are designed for a week, not months. Since they pick up Lady, it is still close to the initial outbreak. Later, Lizzy even remarks that the sweat jars were three weeks worth of work when Kelly is looking for stolen items in Lizzy's room. So, it seems like a week into the outbreak Durai is looking to fire bomb someone...

[Witch_Doctor]

remember burt when the mallers were attacking the tower? He said "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". How ironic would it be if the tower survivors had to form a partnership with scratch to destroy ink and co.

Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[scbubba]

Personally, i don't think Ink feels threatened by any of the survivors. In chapter 11, Ink laughed at them before he jumped out of the (2nd or 3rd?) floor. To me, that doesn't sound like he's threatened, it feels like he thinks its a game, and he is confident he will win.

No, I'm with you. I didn't mean that Ink felt threatened I'm just saying that he was faced with 4 men armed onlywith a knife and empty rifles. Shouldn't have been a challenge for him but he took off. I agree that it is probably a "game" to him. One he feels very confident of winning....

He's mostly been toying with the Tower and the Colony through most of the show. At least that's what I think we are learning from this most recent Chapter.

[scbubba]

Having fun is the key to the puzzle. I just do not know how literal they are and it is a big jump from having difficulty with a four digit code on a key pad to deciphering obscure symbols and complex organics. Did Ink really have enough of his shit together to create Arrow Head from Austin McKibbon and all the complex locks of the jail and then run into difficulty with the four digit code at the Tower?

Another bit of frustration is that are we actually given first and last name of the prisoners held in solitaire with the exception of one -- Cohen. I have to relisten to this. Who the hell is trying to protect Cohen by omitting his proper name from the journal entry that we are now hearing...

Saw this mentioned about Ink a couple of times around here lately. I'm not really sure he had trouble with the keypad at the Tower. I think he was playing down the things he could do. Ink wanted intel on the Tower and the people there. He didn't want to just wipe them out at that point.

Some other posts I made on this subject are floating around the forums but I think Ink was playing dumb back in the encounter of Ch 11. He's been as smart as he is in Ch 42 all along.....

[scbubba]

I have been entertaining those thoughts. Dont Latch and Scratch discuss that Durai has plans for those tankers while he is spying on them? That is only 7 to 10 days into the outbreak. I know there is a prejudice to put that event closer to the party, but those things are designed for a week, not months. Since they pick up Lady, it is still close to the initial outbreak. Later, Lizzy even remarks that the sweat jars were three weeks worth of work when Kelly is looking for stolen items in Lizzy's room. So, it seems like a week into the outbreak Durai is looking to fire bomb someone...

That's a very good point about the timing. I hadn't thought about Durai having an interest in Ink directly just in wanting to pour gasoline down the fire ant mound.

There's still a lot of ambiguity around the statements made, though. Maybe Durai was just hoarding and came up with the plan to firebomb the arena later. Maybe Scratch's "he knows what's to come" remark was about the coming bombing of the arena. But then again, maybe it wasn't.....

It's one of the things I love about how Kc has put this together. We have a lot of data points but we haven't put them together into a lot of real information yet. In some cases, we don't have enough pieces. In other places, we probably have extra pieces that are of no real use and only confuse.

I love this show!!!!

[Footbutt]

a little Bible stuff that's creepily sounding close to the story...

Revelation 13
The Beast out of the Earth
14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.
18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e] That number is 666.

i know it seems VERY unlikely for 'religious stuff' to enter the story, but the Chapter "Mark of the Beast" keeps coming to mind. The Bible is a great source for content, albeit out of context, but still great for parallels.

i think there are people in the story that knew what was going to happen.
Durai, i'm now thinking, was one of them.

[Gnex]

a little Bible stuff that's creepily sounding close to the story...



i know it seems VERY unlikely for 'religious stuff' to enter the story, but the Chapter "Mark of the Beast" keeps coming to mind. The Bible is a great source for content, albeit out of context, but still great for parallels.

i think there are people in the story that knew what was going to happen.
Durai, i'm now thinking, was one of them.

If Durai knew what was going on..... Would that mean that Scratch likely also knows???

[Footbutt]

If Durai knew what was going on..... Would that mean that Scratch likely also knows???

and you know... now i'm going back over every Scratch/Durai scene in my head.
When Durai was talking with Pegs over the radio right before the The War he mentions "You're trying to be reasonable? Well, now, perhaps we can..." but since Scratch told Kalani to fire at the ground when given a certain signal, we never saw Durai's plan carried out.
Was there something he was planning that was 'less sinister'?
or was his New Colony idea of control his plan all along? the Tower was just his first setback.