the W/A finale convoy!

[REZombie]

In California the blade length for a folding knife is the length of the sharpened edge, typically measured from the tip to the point where the sharpened edge ends near the hinge:


As for items intended as tools, there is no exception for them in the law. This will probably all get straightened out once the law is tested in court, but who wants to be the poor schmuck who pays the legal costs for that?

Dang..that alone would keep me out of the state...i rarely leave home without my M&P let alone my knife...My SOG(trident goes with me everywhere....it would be like leaving my wallet..

[7oddisdead]

just to weigh in on this, I know ill have a decent sized tool kit along for the trip just in case. id say if your like me red, you like to travel with something. cant say as I blame ya there. and I know your main reason for asking was curiosity more than desire...but if need be toss the leatherman in the tool kit. I swear if the po-po hassles us over a multi tool it will be my last trip to cali....

as for the rest of us. leave your props at home folks.. with me and my brother on the trip, we'll be cop magnets as is (it just always happens, not my fault I swear!!!)

[Litmaster]

WHY LIT HATES PACKAGED TRIPS/TOURS

I don't really hate them, I just think, for the most part, they are incredibly boring and never really seem to get at the heart, the essence, of what the trip/tour is supposed to be presenting you with. Let me try to explain what I mean...

EXAMPLE #1: PACKAGED VACATIONS: Imagine a group of people all go on a trip to Rome. "Oh, Marcy, you'll never believe how fabulous our trip was! So much history there! (I'm imagining a New Jersey accent, for some reason) So many monuments! Oh, and look at this one: our tour guide brought up right up to the Roman Coliseum, can you believe that! Oh, will you just look at those arches!"


So people usually take a standard group photo like the one above, and that constitutes one piece of their documentation of this fabulous, unforgettable trip. Yeah....


EXAMPLE #2: PACKAGED TOURS Many people like 'packaged' tours to fabulous locations. You know what I'm saying... they pay a few grand to hop on an 'all expenses paid' cruise ship to Brazil, where there is then arranged a carefully planned and guided tour bus chauffeuring them to witness ALL THE VAST, UNTAMED, WILD BEAUTY OF THE AMAZON RAINFOREST!!!


Wow! Just look at those smiles! So they sit there on their ass and snap pictures of the monkeys and shit from the comfort and safety of their tour bus, while the guide tells them local trivia of indigenous parrots or whatever, while everyone 'oohs and 'aahs'. If their lucky, they might even get to walk a short way INTO the vast, untamed rainforest, guided to a pre-planned spot which just happens to be the very same spot that every other group is ushered too, thus leaving telltale signs of their presence (footprints, dropped candy wrappers) on the floor of this 'vast, untamed rainforest' they have all paid money to witness in person...

Are you guys feeling what I'm getting at, here?
Now compare those 'canned' experiences with:

EXAMPLE #3: THE LEWIS AND CLARK EXPEDITION Okay, let's set aside all the politics of the situation and focus on the essence of the trip itself: essentially, it was a journey into the unknown. A group of people heading westward across a vast, unmapped, 'undiscovered' land (okay, by the white dudes I mean), in order to discover what was there.


And they probably never looked like this picture, but whatever. The point I'm making here is that the trip, for them anyway, was a true adventure. Untamed. Unguided. Trackless wilderness. Risk. Danger. No guarantee of success or even safety. A trip containing all the essence and drama of a great adventure... and the telling of a great story.

Think about how very different of an experience that is from the safe, canned, carefully prescribed trips like in the first two examples. Example #3 really was a true adventure, while the first two examples are merely canned adventures--people on the outside looking in, from behind the glass, on places and events that happened long ago, to someone else... but not to them.

I contest that people who pay money to go on canned trips and tours to witness historical events and exciting locations never REALLY see what they are paying to see, and never REALLY experience what they are paying to experience. It all becomes a fabrication.... fake.... a false caricature of itself. (this is also partly why I hate amusement parks, but that's a different story)


I think, by participating in this fan fiction project, we will be able to turn this trip into an true adventure, albeit a fictional one. While it is enjoyable for some to simply snap pictures and take videos of shit we see and do along the way, I think we can do better than that. I think we can make it more interesting for people on the forum to follow along. I think we can make it more creative, and thus more fun.

Like Lewis and Clark, we will be traveling west, following in the footsteps of a great story. At the same time, we will be creating a great story of our own. I think I've figured out how to merge these two elements in a way that is NOT canned or false, and that can put us all INTO the essence of the story, instead of us looking at it from the outside... from behind the glass.


My next post will give details on exactly how we can do that. Stay tuned.

[7oddisdead]

dude, your mildly insane. I personally love it.

I know im on board, and I believe I know what your thinking...should add to the already epic-ness of the trip.

btw...pic number two makes me laugh my ass off, but I am slightly boozed up at the moment






OH, also some transport info may be incoming in the next day or so

[Witch_Doctor]

Oh, and I forgot to mention above... I will graduate in May so this is PERFECT! I will have my big girl nursing job for long enough to spend all the money I make

May the 8th?

[Witch_Doctor]

Wow...just...wow.

but how do I continue to be Todd and not have it be awkward...

Hey, there's a living and a dead Puck. It can work.

[Witch_Doctor]

I'll be the token English character

I'll be the token Black guy. Wait, that never turns out well, does it?

[7oddisdead]

Oh snap!

I <3 you doc!

your dehaventon right? I need to @ ya

[Witch_Doctor]

Oh snap!

I <3 you doc!

your dehaventon right? I need to @ ya

Yeppers.

[Jannit]

This sounds like an awesome trip! I hope you all have a fantastic time. I'll be living vicariously through all of the videos and such.

Okay, fine. I'll be sulking and jealous in the corner.