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    Quote Originally Posted by Malador View Post
    This may be complete lunacy, but I'm pondering the idea that CJ is somehow connected to Ink, and may be feeding him information. She runs Dunbar, and it is attacked, and she is left alone. She sends a team to the waterworks, and the infected who would have no reason to be hanging around there, attack and kill the engineers. Glenn and Pete are staying in one of her safehouses, and are attacked as soon as they leave to make their way back to the colony. The colony itself is attacked in the middle of the battle between the residents and the mallers, when it is at its most vulnerable. And to top it off, Datu and company are attacked while on a mission very close to the Colony, when no infected have been seen in the area for days. Either she is working both sides, or she has the worst luck in the history of ever.

    EDIT: And as a final thought, she tried constantly to pull Michael away from his investigation into Ink.
    She's probably Ink's lover... He was cheating on his wife as well, and ... stuff happened. IDK.
    Interesting idea, but I doubt it. I'd go for the worst luck part instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malador View Post
    This may be complete lunacy, but I'm pondering the idea that CJ is somehow connected to Ink, and may be feeding him information. She runs Dunbar, and it is attacked, and she is left alone. She sends a team to the waterworks, and the infected who would have no reason to be hanging around there, attack and kill the engineers. Glenn and Pete are staying in one of her safehouses, and are attacked as soon as they leave to make their way back to the colony. The colony itself is attacked in the middle of the battle between the residents and the mallers, when it is at its most vulnerable. And to top it off, Datu and company are attacked while on a mission very close to the Colony, when no infected have been seen in the area for days. Either she is working both sides, or she has the worst luck in the history of ever.

    EDIT: And as a final thought, she tried constantly to pull Michael away from his investigation into Ink.
    Interesting theory, not sure how likely that would be haha.....I think it's just "coincidence" (otherwise called Kc) that it all happened they way it did. Also, if CJ was on Ink's side, she wouldn't of had to defend herself in a corner of a room in Dunbar, considering the zombies were still going after her.... Think Ink decided to "leave her" as she was in too good of a defensive position for them to get her, without wasting a bunch of his army on her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storm View Post
    She's probably Ink's lover... He was cheating on his wife as well, and ... stuff happened. IDK.
    Interesting idea, but I doubt it. I'd go for the worst luck part instead.
    ^^^^This... this is what HAS to happen

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    Neither did CJ sabotage Victor's equipment nor did she test things.
    In either case she would have jeopardized the complete reconaissance mission and risked several assets - two sets of diver's gear and especially two persons she could need for other stuff to be done. And as far as I understand her, any decision is one with a purpose and especially one which aims at salvaging, exploiting, and most importantly: saving assets, ressources, and personnel.
    So, no ... I don't like CJ for many reasons, but I won't blame her for senseless things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unit9014 View Post
    It could be a defense mechanism for sure, but her coldness and ruthlessness was there before she lost Sean, she was that way when Sean was still with her. Now he seemed to be in her circle, and probably because she had romantic feelings towards him. Saul is the same way, she has romantic feelings towards him and so she lets him in behind some of her defenses, but not all the way... and that not all the way part was probably due to the loss of Sean and being alone. But, again, even before all that she was cold and hard and out for herself.

    You can see it in just noting that so many from Dunbar were abandoning ship. You can see it in the fact that she set up a secret weapons stash and didn't tell anyone while they were being attacked. She didn't say follow me to the basement, I have weapons and we can defend ourselves, she let everyone head up to get to a fire escape and draw away some of the biters while she went alone to the basement where she had prepared previous to stand alone and make sure she could at least survive. In the tower with Michael and Burt and Angel we see times when they wanted to leave someone behind and just look out for themselves, but when it came right down to it none of them could actually do it, CJ did.
    Wait, wasn't the attack on the side with all the weapons so everyone was cut off? From what I remember they were unable to reach the other side of that tower. CJ just ran downstairs it was the way they were attack that cause the other people unable to reach her position. I'm assuming Ink was scouting the spot for a while and knew the key area to attack.
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    And she didn't say 'Hey everyone follow me! I have another stash of weapons besides the armory! Lets fight these things together' ? I don't buy it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unit9014 View Post
    And she didn't say 'Hey everyone follow me! I have another stash of weapons besides the armory! Lets fight these things together' ? I don't buy it
    But that like Burt telling Micheal, 'Hey, Michael I had an RPG in the shop before it got robbed I think we should keep an eye out for it during our escape.' ;-) Sometime decisions look bad to us because we see the whole picture. The characters in the story don't have our POV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper View Post
    But that like Burt telling Micheal, 'Hey, Michael I had an RPG in the shop before it got robbed I think we should keep an eye out for it during our escape.' ;-) Sometime decisions look bad to us because we see the whole picture. The characters in the story don't have our POV.
    I guess I'm just not seeing the comparison the same way as you. To me the comparison would be more like if they go through the whole attack and the tower falls only to find out that Burt had some RPGs in his room that could have taken out the Mallers and the tanker and saved the Towerites, but didn't tell anyone.

    Basically that is what CJ did. You are right in that the hoard of zombies separated Dunbar from the armory, leaving people no choice but to run away defenseless. But they didn't have to, there was another weapons stash in the basement that they could have used if CJ had told them about it.
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    The problem is that Burt knew that some one stolen the RPG from his vault and that someone was the Mallers. He info no one of the RPG he had till it was too late. Burt had foreknowledge of something that may have other if he alert them earlier. But no one blame Burt for the death of all the people who died in the tower due to that RPG.
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    The distinguishing difference between the two is that Burt was robbed, he knew he was robbed, but he didn't do it and didn't fail to tell anyone there were RPGs in his vault out of malicious intent (at least it doesn't appear that way).

    CJ intentionally planned her scenario. She didn't plan the attack part, but she set up a weapons cache and planned a way to save herself in the even that her fortress was over-run. Burt's err was omission, CJ's was deliberately planned. In my eyes that is a very big difference.
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