Chapter 39-3 Chemical Reactions

[ZombieWildfire]

...And has anyone else but me thought of this... We're already 25% through this season...

Yes! So I'm expecting the pieces to start falling into place thick and fast soon. fingers crossed anyway... All this speculation is so much fun, but my goodness its driving me crazy!

[7oddisdead]

Oh, and a little food for thought.

Dr William Issac Roberts.

Doctor Who Is Right....

[Witch_Doctor]

Something else I want to throw out there. Relevant here I think, but a hop into the way back machine to Ch. 11 2/3 @ 6:00, Kalani's Tower De-Brief:
"They came back with some weird stuff from there... never really made it to the center."

What weird stuff? Was he referring to the "sickness" or some kind of physical artifact? Property of Raydon Labs?

When pressed, he describes the special zombies like the runners and jumpers.

[Witch_Doctor]

One of the labels read by Puck sounds like Aranesp. http://www.drugs.com/aranesp.html

[Witch_Doctor]

I'm not a doctor, but I play one on the We're Alive Forums. Soooooo, from a non-medical perspective, I'm gonna suspect that the things uncovered so far are used for muscle growth and treating cancers and tumors. In essence, using the black box way of analyzing this, these things are used to do such and such; I just don't know how.

[skankyfish]

I'm not a doctor, but I am a medical scientist specialising in medicines information. The four compounds taken from Raydon read to me like a recipe for an athlete to dope with:

Somatotropin - human gorwth hormone. Used medically to promote growth in people with deficiencies, or other metabolic disorders; also used by body builders to build muscle and get hyooge.
Aranesp (darbepoeitin alfa) - used to increase the number of circulating red blood cells. Medically it's used to treat anaemia, in sport it's very like what Lance Armstrong used to dope for the Tour de France.
Stanozolol - an anabolic steroid, used to increase muscle mass. Beloved of body builders.
Follistatin isn't used widely as a drug, although there's gene therapy in development. Again, it would promote muscle growth and strength.

All of those things have already been covered I think, but it's worth saying that taken as a whole, this is basically a bodybuilding stack. Someone taking all of these would likely be big, mean, tough, and have pretty great endurance. Sound familiar?

[UndeadSweeper]

I'm not a doctor, but ... I got nothing.

[scbubba]

I'm not a doctor, but I am a medical scientist specialising in medicines information. The four compounds taken from Raydon read to me like a recipe for an athlete to dope with:

Somatotropin - human gorwth hormone. Used medically to promote growth in people with deficiencies, or other metabolic disorders; also used by body builders to build muscle and get hyooge.
Aranesp (darbepoeitin alfa) - used to increase the number of circulating red blood cells. Medically it's used to treat anaemia, in sport it's very like what Lance Armstrong used to dope for the Tour de France.
Stanozolol - an anabolic steroid, used to increase muscle mass. Beloved of body builders.
Follistatin isn't used widely as a drug, although there's gene therapy in development. Again, it would promote muscle growth and strength.

All of those things have already been covered I think, but it's worth saying that taken as a whole, this is basically a bodybuilding stack. Someone taking all of these would likely be big, mean, tough, and have pretty great endurance. Sound familiar?

Good stuff skankyfish!

I don't have the medical background for it but I was suspecting Raydon (of at least Dr William I Roberts) of being in the Performance Enhancement Drug (PED) business - that's why I voted for Barry Bonds to be the new spokesperson for Raydon Labs over in the Radio Commercial Contest thread....

[scbubba]

I'd like to point out the the DVR recording says "the family itself" not the families...just relistened a half dozen times to be sure I'm not crazy.

After seeing you post this (and running across a similar post from cupcakezombie in another thread) I went back and listened to that part again (Ch 2-3, ~20:55). Having the William I Roberts name now could make that snippet more meaningful.

I originally thought it said "the families" and assumed it meant the families of Ink's victims were upset that he was going to a hospital and not Death Row or the Big House (does Cali have a death penalty?) But the phrasing of "the family itself" could be talking about the Roberts family being upset about more than darling Billy being convicted (albeit on an insanity plea). Perhaps something else happend to a Roberts' family member.... Perhaps it was William I Roberts involvement in something....

My DVR has a button that let's me jump ahead 30 seconds at a time. I'm assuming the Tivo/DVR Lizzy found has the same thing and that is what she is using. A lot can be said in 30 seconds....

Then this post by whenallisdark registered

I've listened to the the entire WA around 4 times now and one thing hangs me up everytime.

As they are watching the news report about Bill Roberts, they watch it at normal speed. The news reporter says he is being transferred to a mental health facility. a few seconds later they start to skip through the report to get to the bambies (that's what my 5 year old daughter used to call zombies).

Just as they stop fast forwarding, the reporter says again "he is currently being transferred to a mental health facility"

It would be a bit odd for the news reporter to say the same thing twice for the one story.

Was there someone else involved with Bill Roberts or someone else who was being transferred to the same hospital?

Any thoughts?

I assumed it was a repetition of the previous line from earlier (at least 60 seconds because of 2 jumps by Lizzy?) about the transport because sometimes news reporters give a wrap up line at the end to summarize key details. But what if there were 2 members of the Roberts family involved in something and both were being transported....

Hmmmm, I guess I shoulda posted this over in crackpot theories instead....

[skankyfish]

Good stuff skankyfish!

I don't have the medical background for it but I was suspecting Raydon (of at least Dr William I Roberts) of being in the Performance Enhancement Drug (PED) business -

Interesting... As soon as I heard all the names my brain went "PEDs!", but it never occurred to me to wonder why Raydon had that combination of stuff just lying around. It'd be interesting to know what else they kept in stock. Were they kept as PEDs? Were they working on muscle wasting diseases? Were they trying to make super-buff superhumans? Or were they just a wholesaler that had all sorts of stuff? As an aside, bodybuilders use Preparation H too - they rub it all over themselves an hour or so before competition to try and look as ripped as possible.