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    Quote Originally Posted by nikvoodoo View Post
    There should be no regulars at Boulder. They froze to death.
    Unless there's some sort of difference in the way people are affected when they're attacked. We've already seen that there are different sorts of zombies, who is to say that all victims of that one zombie will have the same reaction? We've already seen that not all people are affected in the same manner.

    We know that it is a second generation Little One that is responsible for causing all the mayhem and carnage at Boulder. What if the zombie strain/infection/bacteria/whatever-other-cause can devolve in the same way we've seen it evolve? Perhaps a third, fourth, twenty-second, etc generation Little One attacked someone but they just weren't AS potent as an Inkling.

    Going back to some of the earlier comments about how there should not have been any possible way for Datu to have taken down a Little One, this might explain it. Perhaps as the virus/zombie-ism/etc is passed on from one person to the next, it becomes diluted. If this is the case, the one Datu killed could have been a lesser version of an Inkling. Not quite as strong or fast, with thinner skin than #2.

    Just tossing out some ideas.

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    Infections don't really dilute.. They get stronger if anything. Viruses, bacteria, parasites.. etc. evolve. I do see your point. The original numbered LOs are stronger because they've had more time to 'evolve' whether forced or not. They have long sharpened nails. I doubt anyone turned grows nails that long, that fast. At least there's been no mention of it. I wonder if Roman's nails were long the morning after..
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    It's partially driven from the idea that I still think the Inkling are a sort of pure zombie. I haven't been able to define it very well as far as why but its just stuck in my head. If you take a pure blood, and mix it with something else, none of the offspring will ever again be pure. Like dog breeds or something, I guess?

    Bleh. I'm just going to stop since this is starting to make even less sense as I try and explain. It has been a long ass week. X_X

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    I know what you mean. We don't have enough evidence to make clear guesses about the LOs. It's all theories, right or wrong, they're all theories. We'll have to wait on Bubble Lady.

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    In all of the chaos of the fighting, it is not clear HOW the zombies got inside the city. We know, from Spc Robins, where they attacked first but not if it started from outside Inklings (assuming that they are Inklings) or soldier-turned Inklings or civilian-turned Inklings or both.

    It would take some sort of intelligent being to decide that power and communications are excellent first targets but this is far more than of what we've seen the zombies and Inklings are capable. I simpler solution would be that soldiers working in these locations or who are connected to others in these locations were infected and spread it along their regular travel routes.

    Not too sure about Griggs being the source either. His map seems like it will be of some importance, so it may be that we'll see him again.

    Here are a few things tossed out...

    1) Slow turners. Who are they, why are they so slow.
    2) any contamination from #2?
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    Hi there,

    @Jannit: I like your ideas, although - I admit - I don't agree with the the result of it. Carl and Robbins had to shoot a Little One of the third (maybe fourth?) generation three times to kill it; that was a soldier who already had one of the most potent physical abilities we have encountered so far on Little Ones or zombies; Robbins shot a video of the zombies attacking within Boulder, and they did not seem like being devolving or devolved specimen of zombies. And yet I am with you: maybe the zombie killed by Datu may have been different - or Datu may have been different.

    @Witch_Doctor: Yeah, still a subject to be solved. And this could be important regarding Boulder. But considering the noises the zombie near Datu and Hope made (it sounded just like a Little One), where and how would this former human have been infected? Did Little Ones already exist not only in L.A., but elsewhere as well? Anyway: The 'patient 0' for Boulder must have been infected by a Little One; and the only available source we 'know' so far is the 'survivor' of the Chinook crash-side. Unless Robbins and Carl or the Blackhawk pilot did not hold back vital information, (for me) it is kind of hard to imagine that the source of Boulder-zombies is not Griggs.
    And about #2: Number #2 was bagged in; to whom or how would it spread its inhuman agent?

    @lr42186: How would Scratch know about Irwin? How would she be able to access the code? How would she ... etc. etc. ? Interesting alternate universe, Ir24186, but quite far-fetched as of now ...

    @2bgood: Yeah, VERY GOOD POINT! Tanya took blood samples and stuff from #2, right? Thus she is able to do some more serious research and may even get (close) to the source of the zombie agent and maybe even find a way to disable it ...

    @Pillars: Yeah, the sound at 7:56 sounded like the ones in chapter #25-3 or at any other time we heard Little Ones around; and in #34-1 we have some new sound-features of those beasts as well.

    Zombie-fans: Two more days, then there will be #34-2 .. Yeeehaw! Are you as excited and curious as I am?

    All the best!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pillars View Post
    I know what you mean. We don't have enough evidence to make clear guesses about the LOs. It's all theories, right or wrong, they're all theories. We'll have to wait on Bubble Lady.

    Thanks for the comment. I don't think Bubble Lady is going to make any big breakthroughs until she has someone else's blood to compare against the zombie samples.


    Quote Originally Posted by LiamKerrington View Post
    Hi there,

    @Jannit: I like your ideas, although - I admit - I don't agree with the the result of it. Carl and Robbins had to shoot a Little One of the third (maybe fourth?) Generation three times to kill it; that was a soldier who already had on of the most potent physical abilities we have encountered so far; Robbins shot a video of the zombies attacking within Boulder, and they did not seem like being devolving specimen of zombies. And yet I am with you: maybe the zombie killed by Datu may have been different - or Datu may have been different.
    Hi Liam,

    Speculation is the fun part about all of this. I don't anticipate that I'm right, really, but it's fun to toss around new ideas to see if they stick. There is so much room for debate with the way the episodes are laid out that we won't find out until the end who is right, if we ever do find out that is! Thanks for the comment.


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    Just had a thought, is the Colony going to become the last bastion of humanity if Boulder is remove off the map?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper View Post
    Just had a thought, is the Colony going to become the last bastion of humanity if Boulder is remove off the map?
    In terms of our story that might make sense. But given the issue of the Little Ones/Inklings, and the threat they pose, how long would it be before they found and over-ran the Colony? It's closer to LA than Boulder was to the Chinook crash site, and an easier trip.

    If Boulder falls it might make sense to nuke the city to wipe out the zombies there, and to do the same to LA, in the hope of stopping the Little One/Inkling problem while it's still somewhat contained. Then relocate the survivors to Alaska, Canada, or someplace cold where the standard biters will freeze to death every winter.

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    The colony is the closest pre visited location to the Naval Center. There has to be importance to the base. It's the whole reason the map was made in the first place. After Boulder falls the colony will fill its place until we can access the Pacific.


 
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