Chapter 33-3 Red Winter

[Robzombie]

My first take on your question is like ya said...the specials didn't really show up till later, after the majority of humans were killed or turned to regular zombies. There aren't many humans around to become affected by the specials, therefor there aren't many specials.
Regarding Boulder, well with that i guess whatever happens happens but yeah, if a Little One gets in there then i suppose were going to end up with a lot more zombie 2 point 0's (or is it now ver. 3.0?).

[LiamKerrington]

Hi there,

... They are heartier, craftier, and seem to spread quicker than other types.

Yes, they are heartier, craftier ... But no, they don't spread quicker than other types. Tommy and Fernando turned within minutes (Tommy) or less then a minute (Fernando) as well; and from different sources we know that infected humans turned quickly as well, which supports the and also is supported by the simple fact how fast L.A. and later the US was overrun by Zeds.

I suppose there have not been as many of them exposed to masses of people (only other zombies), and the cliffhanger in Boulder might be the first setting in which a lone Inkling comes into contact with a mass of humans.

As Robzombie says: The first Little One's were encountered by Skittles, Kalani and Angel at the military base in L.A; that was by the end of July in the WA-timeline. At that point in time the number of survivors in L.A. was less then half a thousand if we consider The Tower, The Mall, and The Colony as the only places with humans being alive and Skittles as well as CJ surviving solo on their own. When it all started on May 8th the city of L.A. was obliterated of life within less then a day - with Regulars/ standard biters/ zombies. The very first 'special' zombie we know of were the Runners encountered by Lizzy, Saul and Burt; then the Behemoth troubled Riley, Angel, Datu and Michael; later Ink showed up after having killed Paul, and then the next special one was the Jumper that knocked down Saul. It was after all these special ones that the Little Ones showed up the first time. And if we stick with the most solid theory so far that the first at least 12 Little Ones were infants and young children from the hospital, then it makes perfect sense that they were simply too late at the party to become a real threat so far, i.e. they were too late to spread their type of zomby-agent, because there was nearly no one available to be infected anymore.

That is why I agree with you: We probably to most likely have our first Little One at its feast; considering its cunning on the one side and on the other side the lack of intel on the Little Ones within the standard military forces in Boulder so far, Boulder might have some serious shit to deal with.

It might be setting the stage for an entire city to become super-zombies, like the Inklings.

Would be time for the Toxic Avenger to show up, I assume ...

I also suppose that it's possible that Michael Keaton's Multiplicity theory holds true: "A copy of a copy is not as crisp as the original," and those infected by ADLOs do not see the same quick physical developments. ...
Appreciate any thoughts/clarifications on this one, cause it's been gnawing at me.

Mh. Not sure, if MK's Multiplicity Theory really applies. Do you remember Glen mentioning how Roman changed over night? This implies that the process from human => infection => Little One does not stop at the level of Little One, but it goes on. And here the mystery is on ...
Angel and Kalani found some slime; where was it when Saul and Victor checked the dead Little One in L.A. or killed the other Little One at the elementary; where was it when Tanya made her autopsy?
Skittles highlighted the funny way of walking of the Little Ones, and he together with Kalani and Angel recognized the small size of the Little Ones at the base; and later the beasts were so huge wherever you encountered them.
Briggs was able to rip off an arm of a Little One; I am pretty sure he wouldn't have been able to do so, if the skin and muscles and bone-structure of it was as tough as the ones Robbins and Carl found at the Chinook Crash side and really had trouble to bring down.
Considering this amount of information and the changes within the various 'qualities' I would say: Actually the Little Ones prove to be quite the opposite of what MK's theory says ... Because the farther we go in time, the more resilient, potent and dangerous these beasts become.

All the best!
Liam

[UndeadSweeper]

Question?

We still haven't answered where this started nor how. But we thinking Ink maybe involved at the core, yet he won't to be to mod the zombies this much on his own. He needs help. What if the smart doctor zombie can retain the memory of their pre-zombie self? That would explain how advancement were made so quickly in a short time span. Think about it, the missing soldier is head directly to to Boulder. How would he be able to do that without maintain his memories?

[lr42186]

I just had another thought on the origins of the Little Ones/ADLOs/Inklings... Could they be kids from the mental hospital, i.e the spark of insanity is what makes them dementedly clever as zombies? Unsure about this, since I can't remember if the hospital = the mental hospital Ink was transferred to.

[Robzombie]

Okay, no ones been saying anything for a few hours now so lets stir some shit up here....how about..........How, if at all possible might Ink be related to any of or be part of any of our known "family" members?? Come on people where does this bad ass mo- fo sit within the grand scheme of things with the players we all know and love/hate, or is he totally a seperate thing from all of that??

Keep it real, no supernatural bs, because reality or as close to reality has been a big thing about WA.

[LiamKerrington]

Hi.

Well, considering his backstory: convicted of multiple homicide, schicophrenic, tattoo-monster ... And when it all started he was brought to a "mental health facility".

@lr42186: We know from the "Devil's Workshop" that ths huge hospital in L.A. has a department for mental things. But would this have been sufficient for a madman like Bill Roberts? And would it have had the right 'infrastructure' for conivcted madmen as well - like half prison, half mental facility? Hard to tell. Since he knows the place, it seems to be the case, actually, that he was transferred to that place.

Still: Hard to tell.

@Robzombie: Was "Bill Roberts" part of "The Family"? Really hard to tell. Since he killed people in his human life, it could have been the case that he might have been a contract-killer/ killer from "The Family". But would the family have deployed madmen as well for such tasks, which might be too much of a security issue, a cannonball gone loose or something? I am not so sure what concept is behind "The Family"; but comparing it with Mafia or Yakuza I would say: These groups are highly organized and structured, obey to many rules and keep true to some kind of "honor-scheme". That is why I would say: Bill Roberts/ Ink is not related to "The Family" - in no way. He is on his own. And yet: Scratch could prove me wrong. (I still like the idea that she will become a Zed (probably a Little One), and then she and Ink will be more devastating then all nukes combined ...)

All the best!
Liam

[LiamKerrington]

Ok. Then I understood or misunderstood "reached" as "having an outbreak" as well ... And in #29 Col. Kimmet describes the situation as this: "Boulder and Fort Wirin are the only safe zones in the continental US. ... We lost contact with everyone on the East Coast about a week after the West was hit. ... it multiplied and spread within one and a half days ... we know a few hotspots along the coast line ... we think of two in the Bay area ... "

So, yeah: I was wrong with naming Chicago and New York; I just anticipated as much ...

Well, but anyway: for me it is hard to believe, that the West Coast (which has several hotspots - San Diego, L.A., Oregon, Seattle) is quarantined from the rest of the US ... I may be wrong, but who actually cares ...

No, I was not wrong with mentioning Chicago and New York. In chapter #2 the news explicitely mention riots in New York and Chicago as well as Houston and Detroid and San Diego ...

All the best!
Liam

[Cabbage Patch]

Okay, no ones been saying anything for a few hours now so lets stir some shit up here....how about..........How, if at all possible might Ink be related to any of or be part of any of our known "family" members?? Come on people where does this bad ass mo- fo sit within the grand scheme of things with the players we all know and love/hate, or is he totally a seperate thing from all of that??

Keep it real, no supernatural bs, because reality or as close to reality has been a big thing about WA.

I think Ink started out as a Luchidore Wrestler in Mexico. We'll discover that Victor is a former Luchidore as well, and he was Ink's nemesis. The story will end with a death match between the two.

[lr42186]

And yet: Scratch could prove me wrong. (I still like the idea that she will become a Zed (probably a Little One), and then she and Ink will be more devastating then all nukes combined ...)

Sudden thought: If Ink turns out to be a part of The Family... What if HE's the cousin who raped Scratch? Then, if she does turn into a super-Zed, or even if she doesn't... epic fight to the death?

[LiamKerrington]

Sudden thought: If Ink turns out to be a part of The Family... What if HE's the cousin who raped Scratch? Then, if she does turn into a super-Zed, or even if she doesn't... epic fight to the death?

+1

As you say - two words: "EPIC!"