Chapter 33-3 Red Winter

[Robzombie]

Yeah, Saul says because Lizzie named them that, they're still called Little Ones even though they ain't so little....personally I'm sticking with that. It reminds us of what they once were.

[LiamKerrington]

I don't think that the West-Coast is cut off from the East-Coast in terms of quarantine or stuff. Remember Col. Kimmet describing how almost all of the US was under heavy outbreak-fire? He even mentioned New York and Chicago as places of the outbreak; therefore it seems to be unlikely that West-Coast to 1.000mi land-inwards (Boulder) would be cut off, while the rest of the US would be cool with bubble-tea-drinking and McDonald-eating looking forward to having an zombified Walt Disneyland all around the West-Coast ...

Anyway: I finally concur - the autopsy of the Little One #2 points at at least some (all?) of them were small children at the time of the outbreak, maybe even babies, although babies in the nursery usually don't have any teeth at all (except for the predisposition under the skin and within their jaws...); so I think it as to be more likely that the little ones 1. gen (first generation, numbered ones) could have been very little to young children somewhere between the age of 1 and 5 years or something ...

I really admired the autopsy btw. And I admit it: I expected things between the Little One jumping to undeadism again on the one extreme and on the other blood-based infections of Riley, the red-shirt-soldier or maybe even Tanya with Tanya proving again that she is all Lord-sent-Angel-from-Heaven being immune to this D&D monster manual stuff ...

The more I listen to #33-3, I don't like the 11 day jump, the 2 hours gap and all of a sudden hell breaks loose, which is why I look forward to the next chapters.

Comparing the cliffhanger in #32-3 I actually expect chapter #34 to be about Fort Irwin and especially Boulder again ... and in #35 and #36 things and main-characters will be connected again ...

All the best!
Liam

[nikvoodoo]

Nooo! Inklings make them sound cute, whilst these things are quite the opposite!

It's was supposed to be that way! *grumble* stupid forum not taking the inkling name and going with Dog food.....stupid........

I don't think that the West-Coast is cut off from the East-Coast in terms of quarantine or stuff. Remember Col. Kimmet describing how almost all of the US was under heavy outbreak-fire? He even mentioned New York and Chicago as a places of the outbreak; therefore it seems to be unlikely that West-Coast to 1.000mi land-inwards (Boulder) would be cut off, while the rest of the US would be cool bubble-tea-drinking and McDonald-eating guys looking froward to having an zombified Walt Disneyland all around the West-Coast ...

Kimmet didn't say there were outbreaks in Chicago and New York. He said the outbreak reached Chicago and New York.

[Adventureless_Hero]

I thought we agreed we'd call them Inklings. What's with all this ALDO crap? It sounds like dog food!!

Well I totally wanted to go with Inkling for all references to a creature that used to be a little one but is no longer little, whether he be turned or one of these creatures from the get-go.

But reading through the posts it seems like there is an unspoken consensus that Inkling refers to a tattooed creature while ADLO refers to a human turned into a creature by an Inkling.

Fuck it, I'm going with Inkling from here on out! The movement continues!

[LiamKerrington]

Ok. Then I understood or misunderstood "reached" as "having an outbreak" as well ... And in #29 Col. Kimmet describes the situation as this: "Boulder and Fort Wirin are the only safe zones in the continental US. ... We lost contact with everyone on the East Coast about a week after the West was hit. ... it multiplied and spread within one and a half days ... we know a few hotspots along the coast line ... we think of two in the Bay area ... "

So, yeah: I was wrong with naming Chicago and New York; I just anticipated as much ...

Well, but anyway: for me it is hard to believe, that the West Coast (which has several hotspots - San Diego, L.A., Oregon, Seattle) is quarantined from the rest of the US ... I may be wrong, but who actually cares ...

[Kc]

Kimmet didn't say there were outbreaks in Chicago and New York. He said the outbreak reached Chicago and New York.

I was gonna say that didn't sound right...

And to quote Saul about calling them little ones... "Lizzy said it, stickin' to it"

[Witch_Doctor]

I wonder what is involved in the 'turning' process. Specifically the outward appearances as viewed by others. Right now I can think of only a handful of instances where we witness someone turning in real-time.

1. Tommy
2. Fernando
3. The three Blackhawk soldiers.
4. * Riley gives an account of people turning in Chapter 1 part 2. NOTE: Not everyone turned at the same rate.
5. * Some of the members of the Mallers' arena convoy turn while they're under attack, but we don't see this happen.

Of the three that we saw:

• Tommy was infected through blood contact.
• Fernando is bitten. I believe he is the first one that we know to have turned via a bite.
• Not clear how the Blackhawk soldiers were infected.

From the sounds of turning:

• Tommy starts off agitated and irritable. Loses the ability to speak then growls and grunts. Turns hostile.
• Fernando pleads for help and sounds as if in pain. Loses speech, growls grunts. Then he is killed.
• Soldiers follow same as Fernando but they are alive long enough to become hostile before being killed.

I think this post belongs in this thread because there may be a number of ways one can turn. Does anyone remember an instance or description of someone turning via bite before Fernando? How did Tommy's sister, Sally? Susie? Turn?

We know you can turn from bites, blood exchange, and something from ground zero. What about the 'slow turner?' We don't know if this person was exposed at one point and turned like the others weeks later or was gradually turning throughout the duration. If the latter, then could this person have described the process from a Z's perspective or would this person go through changes like mood swings and not be aware of it. Also, from Riley's account, not everyone sprayed with Z-blood turned right away. Perhaps, not only do different Zs spread the infection through different means but different people catch it in different ways.

What if the Ground Zero vector is airborne? How about the Blackhawk Inkling? Pvt Thomas, Michael, Tanya, Riley and possibly Puck all got a good whiff of Z-Funk when they opened the body bag. This brings me to the odd pissing match between Michael and Carl. Mike's been calmer lately but his combativeness is not out of the ordinary. Carl was the most aggressive as he had shown his aggressiveness to a superior. Riley is on anger-management pills. Tanya may have some sort of immunity. Puck's from NYC so anything he says will seem angry. Pus Carl has had the most exposure.

If there is a problem in Boulder it could have come from the Blackhawk and not Griggs.

[nikvoodoo]

I was gonna say that didn't sound right...

And to quote Saul about calling them little ones... "Lizzy said it, stickin' to it"

Screw that Lizzy chick. INKLINGS FTW!

[Bonnonon]

Hey Kc! Did you really have to make the saw and medical stuff sound so gross. :S by the way great episode.

For the saw what tool did you use? It sounded like a skill saw...

[Kc]

Hey Kc! Did you really have to make the saw and medical stuff sound so gross. :S by the way great episode.

For the saw what tool did you use? It sounded like a skill saw...

I'm most likely going to have Robert from our sound design team post the picture... I think it would be very amusing.