Chapter 33-2 Red Winter

[nikvoodoo]

Questions, can someone explain how strong these restraints are suppose to be? I thought with this group they have something heavy duty to hold people down, especially deal with people who can turn. Also who got bite? Last we knew the girl was crushed not bite?

Lots of things can happen in a crash. Lots of things can also happen when a Big Little One treats your chopper like a sardine can. Honestly, the restraints were probably nothing more than wrist restraints similar to handcuffs but with longer chains.

And again, with the rider on board just because she was crushed originally doesn't mean she wasn't attacked once again by the Cling-On Zomb. She could have been turned from that attack. We also aren't exactly keyed in on how little ones change people so maybe being crushed was the reason she changed.

[clem131]

We also aren't exactly keyed in on how little ones change people so maybe being crushed was the reason she changed.

There's a mention of self-inflicted scratches on the little ones, meaning a simple scratch could turn you, in theory.

[Adventureless_Hero]

Lots of things can happen in a crash. Lots of things can also happen when a Big Little One treats your chopper like a sardine can. Honestly, the restraints were probably nothing more than wrist restraints similar to handcuffs but with longer chains.

I'm at a loss on this one. I can't tell if the signs indicate the bloke in restraints escaped using the gifts of an Advanced Little One or if he managed to David Blaine himself out of those restraints. Are they chains or zip-ties? Just asking, but I imagine they'd use chains. Wouldn't want a potential biter restrained with just plastic zip-ties. Still, I am leaning more towards the missing private being an Advanced Little One now, simply for the fact that as they followed the foot prints they came across the restraints and I believe they said they were bloody.

Did they find the map? That missing private could have it on him; be he living or un-dead.

[Penguine]

Questions, can someone explain how strong these restraints are suppose to be? I thought with this group they have something heavy duty to hold people down, especially deal with people who can turn. Also who got bite? Last we knew the girl was crushed not bite?

I am thinking the straps that are used to hold the Captain and the other soldier down are more like this...http://www.skedco.com/Military/casevac-tccc/sk-957. These types of straps are standard Army issue.

They didn't say that Captain was changed. She was dead but still strapped to the litter. The Little Big One is a different female than the Captain.

[Adventureless_Hero]

The Little Big One is a different female than the Captain.

Hai, that is what I gathered from the episode too. Poor Captain Long got eated all up.

My guess, based off the evidence; the Advanced Little One tore up some of the Chinook's wiring and caused it to go down, but not down so quick that they were killed on impact (or did they say one of the pilots died on impact?). The advanced little one probably took advantage of the unsuspecting soldiers after the crash. We can presume that it turned at least two of them since the Black Hawk crew had to cut down two biters upon arriving. Those two were probably munching on Captain Long's corpse. Poor gal. I hope she was dead BEFORE they started eating.

As for the missing private that was in restraints, I don't recall if he was wounded when they left L.A. I'll have to go back and relisten. If he was wounded, we can assume he became a biter. If he wasn't, we can assume that he had a snow ball's chance in hell of escaping. If anything his corpse is either hanging in the tree where #2 was chilling out, or he has turned into a 2nd generation Little One and is roaming the snowy wilderness of Colorado.

[Penguine]

I GOT IT!!! The Chinook went down about 30minutes West/Southwest of Boulder. West/Southwest of Boulder is Breckenridge and Vail. What is in Breckenridge and Vail, CO? Ski Resorts! The Zombies are not going to invade Boulder. They want to get to Breckenridge and Vail for the 1st Annual Zombie Skiing and snowboarding competition. Makes sense. They are headed to their competition and only attack the soldiers cause the soldiers drew first blood by shooting two of them from the air.

As for the one human or zed on the ground and unaccounted for, he is the one putting together the event and is trying to be the first one there to make sure the ski lifts are still operational, and that skis and ski boots are available.

The movement they saw in the trees was Big Foot. But really, I am thinking when the Blackhawk veered slightly off course to check out "movement" that it was the missing soldier, changed. Atleast that is my theory. I think it would have to have a serious resistance to the cold being that the Chinook crashed in the mountains of Colorado, and it will be one hell of a hike from the crash site to Boulder.

Umm... Ok... back to work!

[Blood & Ice Cream]

to me - the fact that a 'little one' crushed Captain Long is simply good tactics and further evidence of how intelligent they actually are

critically wound the leader of the human group = a slower and less effective fighting force, keeps the chinook on the ground longer, basically its a distraction because they then have to carry/drag her and not kill zombies whilst moving back to the chinook

[UndeadSweeper]

I am thinking the straps that are used to hold the Captain and the other soldier down are more like this...http://www.skedco.com/Military/casevac-tccc/sk-957. These types of straps are standard Army issue.

They didn't say that Captain was changed. She was dead but still strapped to the litter. The Little Big One is a different female than the Captain.

The only thing, wouldn't Michael/Kimmet would have plan for this, have stronger restraints? So I guess we are said that there wasn't any turned in the Chinook until the ADLO (Advanced Little One) came in.

[Adventureless_Hero]

I GOT IT!!! The Chinook went down about 30minutes West/Southwest of Boulder. West/Southwest of Boulder is Breckenridge and Vail. What is in Breckenridge and Vail, CO? Ski Resorts! The Zombies are not going to invade Boulder. They want to get to Breckenridge and Vail for the 1st Annual Zombie Skiing and snowboarding competition. Makes sense. They are headed to their competition and only attack the soldiers cause the soldiers drew first blood by shooting two of them from the air.

I'm still thinking about Cheyenne Mountain. Isn't that where that nuclear bunker is? I'm hoping the story includes something from that place. There has to be a military presence of some sort there.

[wh33t]

Wow, congrats KC on the advertisement for the Walking Dead!