Chapter 33-2 Red Winter

[UndeadSweeper]

As KC stated, sign/countersign, although this sign/countersign is pretty deep. When I was enlisted we were given a chart with numbers down one side and letters across the bottom, and the boxes had words in them. If you were challenged with, for example A7, you would respond back with whatever word was in that box, lets say Chicken. On the other hand, if you were challenged with Chicken you would respond back with A7.

Have not heard any in play, but there are also things called duress words. Lets say the duress word/words are "chicken nuts". If you were under duress and talking on the radio or phone you would say something like "Did you know that chicken nuts are real? That should key in the person you are talking to you that something is not right. LOL.. bad example but it works for a simple explanation.

So when Glenn told Saul that one of the chicken had died, it was code for get back to Dunbar soon Peter has gone nuts?

[LiamKerrington]

Did anyone else hear some new sounds from the improved little ones this week.
To me they kind of sound like some of the dinosaurs from Jurassic Park, and almost like communication.

Funny. I had to think of Transformers-robots ... Communication? Maybe, not even unlikely.

[LiamKerrington]

Hi there,

so, this episode goes deep into military-customs. Compared with what I knew so far this was a lot. Thank you very much.

Prediction mode:

1) The little one gets back to Irwin. Will Kimmet let Tanya or whomever work on it? Or will Michael and friends be quick enough to get it to Tanye, before Kimmet could stop them? Maybe, at least, some toilets will receive some cleansing with toothbrushes ...

2) Soldier amiss: Did he break the restraints? or was he able to unlock 'em? First case: he is a Zed, second case: how likely would it be that he was able to flee from 'em beasts? Considering their hunting-abilities and the turning speed I wouldn't go as far as saying he got away. It is more likely that he is either another little-one on the loose (more likely) or he was the little-ones' lunchtime (less likely). And if he is on the loose, how likely would it be for him/ it to reach Boulder? That again heavily depends on three factors: Do little-ones retain the knowledge of their former lives, and/or how much luck in finding or stumbling over Boulder should be involved, and/or do little ones freeze being exposed to low temperatures for a longer period of time? Q1: I guess so, Q2: maybe they have some kind of basic understanding of direction, Q3: one little one was attached to the Chinook for quite a while before it was able to breach the hull, which implies: no, they do not freeze even if exposed for a longer time.

So: #33-3 cliffhanger could be: Boulder under attack? Too far-fetched?

All the best!
Liam

[Condor]

As for bringing back #2's body, I think Michael will try to sneak the body in like he did with the other samples he's been getting Tanya. I think Puck already knows he has been doing this, because seriously did he really believe in the last part Michael was checking for ID. I think Puck will help sneak the body past Kimmet.

Who was the picked-up "soldier" on the Chinook? Seems as if most are thinking he is infected and heading to Boulder, but I'm thinking that's not the case. I'm thinking it's Skittles. He could have been wearing a uniform he found at the base and been mistaken for a soldier. They probably couldn't get much out of him and if he were in uniform they may just assume he was a soldier in shock. It might also be another Maller plant, not likely, put maybe? Another possibility, maybe Marcus isn't dead and is still playing Army. That might be a stretch, but it would be a surprise re-appearance.

Also, there might have been more than one stow-away on the Chinook. They may have gotten #2, but there still could be another that could threaten Boulder.


On a side note: I've been re-listening to old chapters and caught something in chapter 24, the person driving the tanker into the tower is named Puck. Is this a coincidence that we now have a Corporal Puck? It couldn't be the same person, since it's presumed the tanker driver was killed. Even if he did survive, there wouldn't have been enough time to get to Ft Irwin before Michael and company. Is it possible that tanker driver Puck and Corporal Puck are brothers? I don't have a clue how the two characters could be linked together in the story, but it seems very odd to have to characters with the same name and not have some connection to each other.Nevermind, missed this discussion earlier.

I had thought on Kimmet's reluctance to bring the Advanced Little One in for dissection. Sure he is being cautious and he says so by saying he doesn't want a repeat incident where one of the Forts is over run. BUT, what if there is something else? Something he knows about the blood in zombies. That could be why he hasn't let Michael provide Tanya with a zombie sample other than to let Tanya cross reference her own blood samples with those of uninfected. I bet that with the sample Michael provided, Tanya is going to find something startling. Just a thought.

Possible, but... back at the colony they did experiments, so most likely Tanya has already compared infected/uninfected/her blood. However, Victor has said they never encountered the nasty ones like they had near the tower, so who knows.

I wish I had a spare $215K laying around. I found a working M134 for sale.

I've got $20 if you want to go in together and buy it.

[USMC-CPL-Zombiekiller]

Awesome episode! I havent been put on the edge of my seat, taking in every sound like this since the first season. Well done KC.

Speaking of sounds, is it me or did the #2 sound like the Predator when they found it in the tree?

[Cabbage Patch]

On a side note: I've been re-listening to old chapters and caught something in chapter 24, the person driving the tanker into the tower is named Puck. Is this a coincidence that we now have a Corporal Puck? It couldn't be the same person, since it's presumed the tanker driver was killed. Even if he did survive, there wouldn't have been enough time to get to Ft Irwin before Michael and company. Is it possible that tanker driver Puck and Corporal Puck are brothers? I don't have a clue how the two characters could be linked together in the story, but it seems very odd to have to characters with the same name and not have some connection to each other.

K.C. answered this one quite a while back. It is a coincidence and the two Puck's aren't related. Here's the link: http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...3622#post33622

[clem131]

I felt Boulder was in trouble since I heard Michael object to Kimmet's order, yet I'm having trouble imagining a single little one that they know is coming to them could do much. Or at least, he should not be able to do much. I'm sure one way or another it will happen.
The introduction of the new character was a nice touch. KC had 20 minutes to present Tony and have him act meaningfully in the story, and I think he did a great job of that, I'd say he's a lot more characterized than Carl is, for example. I think he will stick around for a while. Very good actor, too.

[Blood & Ice Cream]

my theory on the missing soldier is this:

early on in the podcast (3m 09s) the blackhawk occupants notice movement along the tree line, but quickly dismiss it - i think that was the missing soldier (Private Grigg?) who has been turned into an 'advanced little ones' and as this fleeting sighting of movement was between Boulder and the Chinook crash site - it suggests Grigg's is hot footing it towards Boulder for the season 3 showdown cliffhanger! as from 30-1 michael mentions how the chincook mission in longbeach was important quoting "the following was pieced together by various accounts, it might not be exact, but it was the best of what we know and its important to understand what happened and how it changed everything"! god damn you KC!

couple of other points:

2. Kimmet - also mentions the Army had also lost an outpost due to previous 'messing about'.. mmm.... perhaps some history here on zombie body examination

3. no mention of the map though - perhaps its with the Captain's remains?

4. how does Michael know about the little ones with numbers on? Which convoy is he referring to? the Dunbar Towers convoy or the the Maller convoy Lizzy was in? If that was the Maller convoy (which was attacked by number 5 - who also attacked from the trees by the way) and this was witnessed by Lizzy during '21-2 Mark of the Beast', and that information found by Saul in Lizzy's bag (the recorded messages on the tape) near the Ice Hockey Arena - this means Michael and Saul/Lizzy do meet up!

loving the sound effects on this one - outstanding guys! i was on the edge of my chair all the way though - desperate to hear another "GET TO DA CHOPPA" clip during the combat with the little one!

[Dyhoerium]

4. how does Michael know about the little ones with numbers on? Which convoy is he referring to? the Dunbar Towers convoy or the the Maller convoy Lizzy was in? If that was the Maller convoy (which was attacked by number 5 - who also attacked from the trees by the way) and this was witnessed by Lizzy during '21-2 Mark of the Beast', and that information found by Saul in Lizzy's bag (the recorded messages on the tape) near the Ice Hockey Arena - this means Michael and Saul/Lizzy do meet up!

Saul and Michael were still in contact when Saul found Lizzy's recording. This was before the tower fell. While I do think they will get back together, this isn't evidence that they will.

[UndeadSweeper]

Questions, can someone explain how strong these restraints are suppose to be? I thought with this group they have something heavy duty to hold people down, especially deal with people who can turn. Also who got bite? Last we knew the girl was crushed not bite?