Chapter 32-3 Captive Hearts

[HorrorHiro]

So, from the sounds of the last 5 minutes or so of the episode it sounds like Scratch and her people were able to take the SWAT vehicle, as well as the guns.

I'm guessing Scratches people just shot the fuck out of the inside of the vehicle and assumed that Saul, CJ, and whoever else was in there were dead. I mean when Saul is barely talking to Lizzy through the radio you hear Scratch in the background say "Get the guns inside!" So I'm thinking CJ and whoever else was in there are dead, Saul is seriously injured, and Scratch just got an armored vehicle and enough guns to arm a small infantry unit.

[UndeadSweeper]

So, from the sounds of the last 5 minutes or so of the episode it sounds like Scratch and her people were able to take the SWAT vehicle, as well as the guns.

I'm guessing Scratches people just shot the fuck out of the inside of the vehicle and assumed that Saul, CJ, and whoever else was in there were dead. I mean when Saul is barely talking to Lizzy through the radio you hear Scratch in the background say "Get the guns inside!" So I'm thinking CJ and whoever else was in there are dead, Saul is seriously injured, and Scratch just got an armored vehicle and enough guns to arm a small infantry unit.

I think Scratch was heading to the armory not the van.

CJ is said in the background get the guns in inside.

[Witch_Doctor]

So how would Burt get rescued? Lizzy does not know where Burt is held, only that he is locked up. Bricks knew, but he never told Lizzy, only told her that there were guards and an alarm. Gatekeeper or Bixby might know simply cause they probably have been to that area, but that would mean that Saul/CJ need to hookup with Bixby/Gatekeeper, but Saul/CJ do not know Burt is there, which takes us back to Lizzy. Does she tell Victor, or in her state of shock/excitement/fear/whatever just forget?

Yeah, they might forget ol Burt. Saul is like Pavlov's dog. Mention Lizzy's name and he goes all OMG, OMG!!!

Does Gatekeeper/Bixby/Mallonies (plural of Mallony?) make it out of the Colony?....
....I don't think that Saul will call in a strike on anyone, I think he will call for evac to get him and his people out of town. On the other hand, I think Saul will find it hard to get back in to Army life when/if he and Lizzy get back to one another. He has fought/searched for months to find her, and I highly doubt if Kimmet tells him his pregnant woman is now being airlifted to Colorado but you have to stay

I think it depends on the condition of the Mallony after the War II. If it's over-run by Zs then they'll all need shelter. Does CJ have enough blind folds and safe houses for that?

Saul will have to get back to Dunbar so Glenn can fix the Sat phone before he can call Fort Irwin, unless there is another communication device like the SINCGARS mentioned by Glenn when he met Micheal. By the way, couldn't he have mentioned the SINCGARS in the first place?
CJ: "Glenn, Come in. We found the Sat Phone but did you know that there is a SINCGARS here too?"
Glenn; "Ohh hoho yes, I wasn't going to say anything but..."
CJ: "YOU SLOW-TALKING BASTARD!!! IF YOU SPOKE FASTER THEN PEOPLE WOULDN'T CUT YOU OFF SO DAMN MUCH!!!"
Does it work? What's its range? Is Irwin operating under radio silence?

If the Colonists recapture the colony from the Mallers then how will they dole out justice to any surviving Mallers? Anybody see a marathon of Green Miles for 26 Mallers?

I would have expected Kimmet to have been in contact with such a large population of survivors if Micheal told him that one existed. He seems so concerned with saving people and recruiting soldiers that he probably couldn't care less about Micheal's 'petty' squabble with the Colony's leadership. I wonder what's going on with that aspect. Micheal keeping secrets? Maybe Micheal learns that Kimmet has a long-lost secret lover named Gate Keeper and decides that if he can't have Pegs then Col. "Key Master" Kimmet can't have Gate Keeper. Can only speculate as to why.

As for Lizzy being separated from Saul at Fort Irwin, remember that she is a medical professional. They would definitely need therapists.

I agree with Litmaster. It looks like we're heading for another set of episodes like the War and Burning Embers.

[Witch_Doctor]

Quote Originally Posted by HorrorHiro
So, from the sounds of the last 5 minutes or so of the episode it sounds like Scratch and her people were able to take the SWAT vehicle, as well as the guns.

I'm guessing Scratches people just shot the fuck out of the inside of the vehicle and assumed that Saul, CJ, and whoever else was in there were dead. I mean when Saul is barely talking to Lizzy through the radio you hear Scratch in the background say "Get the guns inside!" So I'm thinking CJ and whoever else was in there are dead, Saul is seriously injured, and Scratch just got an armored vehicle and enough guns to arm a small infantry unit.

I think Scratch was heading to the armory not the van.

CJ is said in the background get the guns in inside.

Yes, Scratch tells others to get to the armory. I couldn't tell who said the part about 'the guns inside' to whom.

[Witch_Doctor]

As state before: Saul's chickens are being taken out by Pete and Witch Doctor.

Nom Nom Nom.
Whuh arw eww dwalking abwoup?
Gulp!

Hey I only need the bones.

[Penguine]

The problem with SINCGARS is the security of them and the range. If I am not mistaken they get a different encryption each time they are used, so the chance of them being able to talk to each other with out being synced/on the same encryption/channel is slim. And as for range... 300m - 35km (~ 22miles) depending on the power setting. Ft. Irwin is about 150 miles away, not going to be able to talk to Irwin with that radio.

[Cabbage Patch]

Anyway, Can anyone verified that Scarface was Bricks shooter?

If you listen carefully to Bricks' death scene you can hear Scratch yell "Bricks!", then two gunshots. Bricks goes down and you can hear Scratch yelling "Got him!".

[Adventureless_Hero]

Aw man, I was hoping Saul and Bricks would meet. I was curious to see how that could have played out, but I suppose Scratch got her vengeance. Did she fire the bullet that killed Bricks or did someone else? I think I heard her shout, "Bricks!" and then later she shouted, "We got him!"

Also, is Durai dead for sure? A hunting knife in the chest is a hella serious thing, but people have survived multiple stabbings before, so....there's that.

I'm very pleased that Saul and Lizzy might finally be reunited, BUT Scratch is on the loose, Saul and CJ are in a shitty situation, and it doesn't look like everything is going to turn out peachy. If the Colony members can get to those guns, then things will look hopeful, but fucking Scratch is a force to be reckoned with. I am anxious to see how things turn out.

[IamPaul]

Thanks for making me tear up Kc. When Victor tells Lizzie that he was sent by Saul then that whole scene until the end goes down I was tearing up. In our time it has been a year plus since Saul and Lizzie have been together, so it was pretty emotional. As to the gun situation, Scratch tells whomever to get to the guns (in the armory, being that is before the SWAT van gets in the doors), she says to get the guns before the others get them. Clearly there are at least 2 factions in the colony. And at the end it is CJ saying get them the guns. I theorize kind of what Nik theorized on We're Not Dead. Instead of Victor being the "hostage" that gets killed, I think it will be Burt. When Saul and the others are getting ready to leave, Burt will be trotted out by Scratch and slowly killed in front of them Walking Dead style.

[IamPaul]

Ok, since we're in prediction mode:

• Hope were in for a nice long battle sequence that lasts up until the end of this season (ala 'The War' in season 1). However, I hope Kc has his sound cues down solid... it can be tough to visualize what is happening when all hell is breaking loose
  
  
• Burt will be freed soon. Probably when they are about to escape and Lizzy will go "Wait! What about Burt?!" (etc)
  
  
• The Mallony will be overrun by zombies. Got to be, because it doesn't make sense, plot-wise, to have our heroes captured or to have them successfully stage a coup. In either case, the action will stop and the story will essentially be over. But with hordes of Zeds running wild, the whole place will collapse, leaving a small band of survivors to barely make it out of the flames...
  
  
• Burt will kill Scratch. Probably wishful thinking on my part, but I can't see any point in having Scratch live on beyond this battle. What is she going to do-- hug the underside of the van, Cape-Fear style, and pop out when the group gets back to LA?
  
  
• Burt will live until the end of the story. I don't care if its not realistic, dammit! Don't kill the old guy! The only way I'll stomach his death is if he goes out like a supreme badass, like dragging Scratch down with him into an active volcano, or something.
  
  
• Season 4 will be about the hunt for Ink and the source of the contamination. Back to the origins, here, with the escaped Mallony survivors SAT-phoning Michael and getting a team of commandoes to assult the hospital...

I like the last bullet point. I am ready to get back to the contamination and what not. I think we will see a trip to Boulder (all hell being broken loose) There is a reason there has been a lack of creatures, especially Ink, this season. We have 4 more chapters left this season, who knows what will happen.