crackpot theories and thoughts

[Zombiphobe]

NOW your talking...its perfectly fine to make all those connections...and then when you bring it all together with a statement like that^ ...thats a good crackpot theory!

Thanks 7odd! That means a lot coming from the guy that started the crackpot theory thread.

[7oddisdead]

firstly, happy one year anniversary crackpot thread! im two days early but whatever....

so a few people have discussed the idea of a virus or bacteria based entity controling the bodies of the "zombies" in the story... for todays installment, i wanna explore that idea a bit.

so what do we have to go on with this theory? well, we have creatures that from outer appearances are corpses...but most every trait outside of that completely contradict the corpse idea. ("breathing", sleep, talking in a few cases..etc). we recently learned of the haze in inglewood, as well as the cracks in the ground that while not explicitly said..are the likely source of the haze. of course the behaviours of the pinstriped guy, the noted behaviours of the zombie community at large..yea. all the stuff...roll it in a giant ball of fuck all..but just the facts.

now, what do we have to speculate on? the obvivious one in my mind is the saul/tanya immunity thing. the true "source" of the haze (earthly or alien or wtfbbq)...why inky boy can speak(is he infected? is he not?) how the devil is he making the numbered ones..yea..bunch of stuff there as well.

so here we go...

for the sake of not dragging this thing out into a book format. im not even going to touch the idea of where did the haze originate. that is what it is, and regaurdless of its source...heavenly or hellish..it is alien to what we know on earth..and therefore defined here as alien. that said,
what if the "haze" is a living organism? or correctly said organisms...bacteria sized sentient beings. an interestesting adaptation of the way these beings fuctionality could work is explored in a "a fire upon the deep" by vernor vinge. wiki time!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Fire_Upon_the_Deep

for those not wanting to jump around, long story short. a race of dog like creatures, apart are similar to dogsin intellegence, get 4-7 of them together and their consciousness is the equivilent of human intellegence...large groups and it just becomes a jumble, confusing, rather non sapient....any of this sound familar????
so how about if the aliens in the haze take over a body, lets start at the origin point in inglewood. enter the body and feed on the body they reproduce themselves within their host...latching hold of all the primary functions of the host as rapidly as the can. without physical control of their own actions, for the split seconds before their own consciousness "ceases to be"...they watch this happen. perhaps its the endorphins, or serotonin released that this little alien bug thrives on reproduces...and spreads. heh, i need to go study up on my inner brain chemistry now..cause this perhaps could help explain a lot of the whole "smarter in life" idea...or hell, where behemoths come from...we have often wondered about the steroid angle..what if the thing that has infected the body(or corpse), simply feeds on chemical bonds?..like the bonds within serotonin levels of the human body..how fucked would that be?..ok, im getting sidetracked.

so we have set the stage for these little viral parasites..their growing in corpses, controlling them, making them do all kinds of messed up stuff. now, what if a proper chemical mix, or a proper chemical balance withing a body could neutralize these suckers? hell, maybe even make them able to cohabitate the human body right along side their host? perhaps thats what we have seen in saul/tanya. tanya seemed to know exactly what saul needed to be put on as far as his i.v. was concerned. now knowing that she's been bitten as well...leads me to believe that whatever her drug combo may have been does just that..neutralizes...now on the opposite end of the spectrum we have ole pinstripes..if a proper mix of foreign chemical bonds can neutralize the virus...could not an opposing concoction mutate it?..my feeling is thats the case with the little ones and the bigger little ones...he's just seeing what will happen.

holy crap...i dont even remember what the point of this post was.. i need to stop this stream of consciousness shit.

[reaper239]

what if, hannah montana caused the outbreak? over exposure to the music of hannah montana may cause face eating and rage issues.

[7oddisdead]

So I have no better place to put this idea...so it goes here.

So we know have Saul trying to figure out how to get Lizzy out of the colony..whatever it takes. We also have Saul, who can breathe at ground zero without any noticable effects. Where my thinking is going is sneak down to the colony with a Trojan horse of sorts...filled with the haze....done. Yea there's lots of small details to work out there..like how to safely get yourself(Saul) and your lady out of there safely...but hell...those details all work out in the end right?...

[Robzombie]

Well, if they used an airpack for lizzie, the one that isnt leaking that is, then Saul could move into and through the haze with her.

[PuddleWhite]

Except that that would zombify everyone around them, as we know. Not only is it horrible, and Saul wouldn't do it, but it would also make it hard for them to leave, what with all the zombies around them and stuff.
On a side note, we aren't 100% sure that Saul is immune, it might have been the antibiotics, and he should be long done with those (i don't believe that, but it might be true...)

[7oddisdead]

Except that that would zombify everyone around them, as we know. Not only is it horrible, and Saul wouldn't do it, but it would also make it hard for them to leave, what with all the zombies around them and stuff.
On a side note, we aren't 100% sure that Saul is immune, it might have been the antibiotics, and he should be long done with those (i don't believe that, but it might be true...)

all true...the moral connundrum it would create would be enough to turn even the most vengeful of upright people away from the idea..and im not advocating it at all..just an idea that popped into my head..

the question i suppose is...if you were faced with a similar option..and getting out would not be an issue..just do it, go in get your love and your unborn child..at the cost of countless lives...would you do it?..hell, would you even consider it?

[HardKor]

The problem I see with the haze Trojan Horse idea is the same problem that plagues all chemical weapons: How do you keep it from dissipating once you release it? I mean that would have to be one hell of a Trojan Horse to cover the Colony in Haze, and that's assuming it doesn't just blow away in the wind once released.

[7oddisdead]

The problem I see with the haze Trojan Horse idea is the same problem that plagues all chemical weapons: How do you keep it from dissipating once you release it? I mean that would have to be one hell of a Trojan Horse to cover the Colony in Haze, and that's assuming it doesn't just blow away in the wind once released.

hmm...well...what keeps it specifically in Inglewood?..i mean, we're probly analyzing this idea far too much..but if the haze has a greater density than air...which it seems to by description, then it stands to reason it would linger long enough for things to happen...perhaps not long enough to turn anyone, but certainly long enough to incapacitate..*shrugs*

[reaper239]

the only way the haze could keep doing what it's doing is through an active leak. it actively leaks through the ground, which creates a high pressure at the site moving the haze outward. as it travels away from the site, it diffuses through the air around it becoming thiner and thinner until it no longer has an effect. at least in my eyes.