Chapter 30-Short Term Memory part 2

[reaper239]

I personally think that it's something non-human that's controlling all the zombies and creatures that may or may not have ever been human, I think that a lot of the "zombies" being described in the story now shouldn't be called zombies, Like the Little Ones (or not-so little anymore,) the Behemoths, the "Jumpers" (that's what Bill called it.) And I doubt Pin Stripes is the only "smart" zombie out there, it would make more sense if some zombies were generally smarter than others.

true, these are not romero Zs, or even a standard 28 zombie, but they are still, at a basic level, zed. they transmit infection through fluids, they attack the uninfected, and they eat people.

[IamPaul]

On the theory of Lizzy having Todds child, it is possible. That would mean if she got pregnant right before the event, she would be around 6 months along. If it is Sauls it would be 4 to 5 months along. If Lizzy is as big as Pete said she is, the there is a chance it is not Sauls at all. I really doubt that, but who knows, Kc has his ways to mess with us.

[nikvoodoo]

On the theory of Lizzy having Todds child, it is possible. That would mean if she got pregnant right before the event, she would be around 6 months along. If it is Sauls it would be 4 to 5 months along. If Lizzy is as big as Pete said she is, the there is a chance it is not Sauls at all. I really doubt that, but who knows, Kc has his ways to mess with us.

It would be 7 months. It's early December now, the event was early May. One would presume the very last day they could possibly have conceived would have been May 7...though that is to presume that Lizzy had enough wits about her to not have sex as the world around her crumbled.

This would mean her morning sickness would be just about concluding at the point she was just starting to show signs of sickness in the podcast.

[nikvoodoo]

A combination thought just occurred to me:

We've been trying to figure out what Kimmet's plans are for LA and why all the recon and etc. If the plan is to send a nuclear strike into the most strategic area in LA then great! Zombies all die!

But now that Saul has a Sat phone and can call, what if he learns of Kimmet's plan to turn LA into a wasteland and he has to try to convince them to stop because Lizzy is there and preggers?

[Tar Heel Fan]

I have a quick theory on what may happen with the Lizzy situation at The Colony. When Pete refers to her as the the girl that's always around the big guy, perhaps this is showing that she is now either has feelings or is in love with Bricks? It has been 5 months since last we heard from Saul, even longer since she got kidnapped. Bricks saved her life on More that one occasion. Maybe she has a case of severe Stockholm Syndrome? People have certainly been known to switch their lovers faster than 5+ months. Another piece of evidence is that Pete says "She doesn't act like a slave." Maybe it's because she is pregnant and can't work, or maybe it's because Bricks has her back again. I'm really not sure what is going to happen, but it will certainly make for a good hair raiser to see how this will effect Saul's and CJ's relationship if Lizzy fell out of love.

You picked up on a comment I've been reflecting on, as well - that Lizzie was close to the inside leadership and not treated like a slave. What you're saying is possible. Although, let's keep in mind that Lizzy is a PhD psychologist. She could be playing them in order to survive.

One other out there possibility is that somehow Scratch thinks Lizzie's pregnant with Angel's child. Since he's "family," she might have her own reasons for ensuring that Lizzie is treated well for the baby's sake. I know, I know, it's out there, but isn't that what these threads are for - throw it up and hope something sticks so that you can some day say, "I called that!"

[7oddisdead]

A combination thought just occurred to me:

We've been trying to figure out what Kimmet's plans are for LA and why all the recon and etc. If the plan is to send a nuclear strike into the most strategic area in LA then great! Zombies all die!

But now that Saul has a Sat phone and can call, what if he learns of Kimmet's plan to turn LA into a wasteland and he has to try to convince them to stop because Lizzy is there and preggers?

I like this (where's our little thumb symbol?)
The only thing I would think differently about is not nukes...perhaps another type of bomb(names elude me)..i could see a situation with Saul outside the colony, with the colony surrounded....and planes flying overhead....i dunno, something like that.

[IamPaul]

A combination thought just occurred to me:

We've been trying to figure out what Kimmet's plans are for LA and why all the recon and etc. If the plan is to send a nuclear strike into the most strategic area in LA then great! Zombies all die!

But now that Saul has a Sat phone and can call, what if he learns of Kimmet's plan to turn LA into a wasteland and he has to try to convince them to stop because Lizzy is there and preggers?

I think a nuke would be to risky so close to the Fort, but some sort of other weapon would be cool. I see a situtation where Saul and Lizzy are espcaping the city just as the bomb is dropped in the background, ala The Millenium Falcon espcaing an exploding Death Star. I just now thought, and maybe it has been discussed, maybe the soliders are trying to find Zombie hot beds to then perform flyover bombings or attacks.

[Red Shirt]

I like this (where's our little thumb symbol?)
The only thing I would think differently about is not nukes...perhaps another type of bomb(names elude me)..i could see a situation with Saul outside the colony, with the colony surrounded....and planes flying overhead....i dunno, something like that.

Anything in particular you are trying to recall? There's Fuel Air Thermobaric, GBU43/B MOAB, GBU-57A/B MOP and of course everyone's favorite, Napalm.

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After all, they napalmed Atlanta in a failed containment effort when things really started getting bad.

I think a nuke would be to risky so close to the Fort,...

Not necessarily... With Ground Zero II, pick a target, pick a yield and bombs away. The B53 "Crowd Pleaser" the largest in the US stockpile had a nominal yield of 9Mt and would still have been in the arsenal in 2009. (The last was decommissioned in 2011, at Pantex, of course.) You could "sterilize" 90% of LA with three by targeting Anaheim, Lynwood and West Hollywood. I checked the fallout paths, assuming that the wind would drive it inland and Irwin would be in the clear.

Sorry if I'm hitting too close to home there for you LA.

[HorrorHiro]

Anybody else think it would make more sense to firebomb or simply carpet bomb the area? Maybe I'm over-estimating the power of a nuke, but regardless I feel like if the fort wasn't immediately taken out by the blast, the giant cloud of nuclear downfall would make it's way to the fort.

[GodofInsanity]

The problem with fallout paths for the southrn california area is it can be very eratic at times. We can have a strong coastal wind to a desert wind blown out to the ocean the we lovingly call Santa Anas. As we have found with wildfires that burned hundreds of thousands of acres just a couple years ago, the wind is no friend to us in times of need here in southern cali. Now granted a ground burst set up would supposedly release less fallout but the resulting fires in surronding areas would add to what little fallout there is.

Now there is the natural barrier of the San Bernardino Mountains and Angeles National Forest. Figuring that the commander at Ft. Irwin would take into consideration weather patterns and such i could see some smaller well placed nuclear devices used or delivered. Low yield bad boys (Kt range more than Mt) that would let surronding radiation disappate quicker save for the exactly ground zero for any devices. I think I do agree with heavier non-nuclear weapons as the after effects may be easier to control.

Plus there is the idea, why use nukes to clear one concentration when this seems to be nation wide. It would take too many weapons even small ones to do the job.

Kinda a cool link for any of you Nuke heads out there.
http://www.carloslabs.com/projects/2...roundZero.html