Have you noticed this?

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

Lectio,

You're pretty damn sharp for a newbie.. thanks. LOL

[lectio]

Thanks very much!

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

I had a few things written down that I noticed from some earlier chapters, but I can't find my paper. ANYWHOOOOO..
1. Some of the creatures know fear. The Pegs drops a pot episode had one trying to hide from them as it entered the lobby.
2. Kalani/Angel get jiggy episode had the behemoth perplexed that they'd actually run at it.
3. LA was totally overrun in 2 days.
4. The doc asked Mike if they were from San Diego.. Pendelton.. as in Camp Pendelton i do believe.
5. I know the exact location of where all the evacuees would have been taken
6. Tonya's manners did a 180 when Marcus showed up, she most def became submissive as hell.
7. Marcus isn't a day to day involved person.
8. How did Tonya get the go ahead to see Michael from Marcus when there was no break in the conversation in the Gatekeeper's room? One moment she was saying no, then said yes because she was told to do it.
9. Marcus hadn't even seen whom he was dealing with yet.
10. The Colony has plantation/slave style capital punishment. That only tends to work when you have massive amounts of manpower.
11. The Colony is great at keeping out Zombies, but a determined human force could take it.

[Ra1th]

In Chapter 3 (part 3 of 3), Burt talks about the smart zombies. The climbing zombie has a level three security badge from

"That one there, lying there, trapped me in the bathroom. It just waited for me to come out..."

"You see that badge clipped there to his belt? It's a level 3 ID for Radon Labs. Must have been pretty damn smart to get that badge."

I wonder if we're going to see Radon Labs featured in upcoming episodes? I'm willing to bet that they were involved with the outbreak. Angel's theory of the mental hospital being the source of the outbreak is probably off, but remember how the first zombies - the ones on the highway - were described by Michael as being covered in scars? Maybe they were test subjects; experiments gone awry. A containment failure could account for the sudden outbreak. The first of the outbreaks were reported to be in Los Angeles and downtown San Diego. There are major research universities in both of those cities; there would be research labs nearby, and the biotech industry seems to be clustered up around San Francisco and Menlo Park.

Maybe something kind of clandestine project?

holdon a second before we jump to a biotech lab containment failure, remember the news broadcast from chapter 2-3? i think? the one that mentions ink that lizzy finds on the tivo. the news segment said that similar break outs of zombies were happening all around the world, a hotlab in LA can't be the source of all the outbreaks.

[lectio]

holdon a second before we jump to a biotech lab containment failure, remember the news broadcast from chapter 2-3? i think? the one that mentions ink that lizzy finds on the tivo. the news segment said that similar break outs of zombies were happening all around the world, a hotlab in LA can't be the source of all the outbreaks.

Hmm. Well, Michael and Angel did figure that the virus spread through California in under a day, but the breakouts all over the place...suggests attack, maybe? I still think that Radon is somehow involved - or that it will be. But I'll have to go back to the drawing board with the Tivo info.

[nikvoodoo]

Hmm. Well, Michael and Angel did figure that the virus spread through California in under a day, but the breakouts all over the place...suggests attack, maybe? I still think that Radon is somehow involved - or that it will be. But I'll have to go back to the drawing board with the Tivo info.

If you haven't played this online game yet, check out Pandemic 2. The entire point of the game is to create a disease that is capable of wiping humanity off the face of the planet. The best (and basically only) winning strategy is for your virus/bacteria/parasite to quietly pass to all corners of the world, and then violently mutate after you have a large number of carriers infected without knowing they are. So it may not necessarily be an attack. It could very well be some new strain of virus or whatever that infected a large population globally. That's honestly the only way I can explain how it became a global phenomenon and not a localized outbreak.

[cPT.cAPSLOCK]

If you haven't played this online game yet, check out Pandemic 2. The entire point of the game is to create a disease that is capable of wiping humanity off the face of the planet. The best (and basically only) winning strategy is for your virus/bacteria/parasite to quietly pass to all corners of the world, and then violently mutate after you have a large number of carriers infected without knowing they are. So it may not necessarily be an attack. It could very well be some new strain of virus or whatever that infected a large population globally. That's honestly the only way I can explain how it became a global phenomenon and not a localized outbreak.

Don't forget that that's also one of the things a strain won't do in real:
the evolutions are independent of each other. So let's say we have virus 'x' spreading to location '1' to '10'.
If the virus evolves into something deadly at location '1', only those people suffer from it. The people in location 2 to 10 will have to be infected again with the new strain before they'll suffer from the new symptoms.

[nikvoodoo]

But remember we've seen evolution in our infected (if that's truly what they are). The first time we saw them they were slow ambling things. Now we've got multiple mutations that we've encountered. Kalani also said the hawaiian ones were more aggressive which could be a mutation in the strain.


so people in location one started as ambelers, infected others with their strain which mutated perpetually. Each new infection mutates, creating the specialized jumpers, runners, behemoths we have now.

Ultimately, I'm just trying to figure out how it could go global all at once without it being a coordinated attack

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

That's one of the first things I thought of.. LA wasn't ground Zero. It's just the start for California.
How did it spawn world wide:
Let's say the biolab is a Umbrella clone and is global. You have a coordinated attack by environmentalists or a disgruntled IT guy who just happened to hack the safety protocols worldwide. The only way I see this as happening so quickly is that there had to be containments units with bioengineered things.
Maybe they were working on a super soldier program...heeehhh
or a more sinister global Tuskeegee type experiment.
Anyway, the creatures in the first episode were walkers with bad skin who reacted to noise instead of smell. Then as the day progressed, there were creatures who had better noses than Scooby looking for Scooby Snacks.
California fell in 2 days right?
- It seems to me that the LA area is the only area so far with the multiple creature variations. I say this because only the Guardians are armed in the Colony (no one is carrying even a stick).
- If they had leapers or behemoths then you'd see the masses carrying some form of a weapon. (That also hints at Marcus leadership style and the conscription/Authoritarian system that's is set up. You don't want the serf's taking it out on the forement do we?)
- The Colony hasn't been up and running long enough to produce crops (i think it takes about 120 days for a Potato to sprout), plus Marcus said as much.
- The Colony doesn't have so much strife that Marcus needs spies to keep an handle on people. You'd think he'd have people watching each other, but he doesn't. He was clueless that Hope was still there. SOO, people know how to keep their mouths shut or they're simply out of the loop about that "rule."

[Wicked Sid]

- It seems to me that the LA area is the only area so far with the multiple creature variations. I say this because only the Guardians are armed in the Colony (no one is carrying even a stick).
- If they had leapers or behemoths then you'd see the masses carrying some form of a weapon. (That also hints at Marcus leadership style and the conscription/Authoritarian system that's is set up. You don't want the serf's taking it out on the forement do we?)

Weapons are not exactly needed to farm crops... Also, as Pegs said in chapter 19, they were told to release their weapons and place them in a storage cache. They, as in the Colony members, took this as compliance and saw need further need to educate them upon the rules during this time.