Does Kalani get a pass?

[Osiris]

Get abducted and let me know how you deal with the situation. Totally unarmed and completely unprepared to handle the situation.

[trubkir]

Get abducted and let me know how you deal with the situation. Totally unarmed and completely unprepared to handle the situation.

That isn't the argument. As I understand this thread we are discussing whether Kalani gets a pass. I say no because he did nothing at the point of attack and he fully realized the gravity of the situation he had got into as evidenced by his "Awww shit". He did nothing then but sit back and let the situation get worse. If "he would do anything for his Hannah" then why did he do nothing. He is a coward and I disliked his fat, whiny, self important ass right from the time he attempted suicide in the arena.

[7oddisdead]

Hmm...so crashing a plane in a city that is not your own..running for your life from a horde of undead that you see eat the people you were just flying with hop a fence even though you are not in any physical shape to do so and luckily meet a car and take that to what you see as your advantage. Then the people in the car draw down on you...and you sit there and take it..

Nothing about that reads as cowardly to me....way i see I...im in a car..and for the moment..im safe

[Osiris]

That isn't the argument. As I understand this thread we are discussing whether Kalani gets a pass. I say no because he did nothing at the point of attack and he fully realized the gravity of the situation he had got into as evidenced by his "Awww shit". He did nothing then but sit back and let the situation get worse. If "he would do anything for his Hannah" then why did he do nothing. He is a coward and I disliked his fat, whiny, self important ass right from the time he attempted suicide in the arena.

Because you're new here, I'm going to extend the courtesy of not arguing this point with you as I have with anyone else willing to step into the ring. There is a lengthy thread around somewhere that covers 99% of what you could think of as far as arguments for and against. Welcome to the boards and enjoy your stay!

Hmm...so crashing a plane in a city that is not your own..running for your life from a horde of undead that you see eat the people you were just flying with hop a fence even though you are not in any physical shape to do so and luckily meet a car and take that to what you see as your advantage. Then the people in the car draw down on you...and you sit there and take it..

Nothing about that reads as cowardly to me....way i see I...im in a car..and for the moment..im safe

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SEE!? I was totally civil there!!!!

[trubkir]

As Crash Davis says in Bull Durham "The moment is over meat". As soon as he sees that the weapon is out and that the weapon is a threat it is time for action. I don't care if Kalani is fat. I don't care if Kalani has no training. I don't care if Kalani is tired, unarmed and in a foreign environment. He is in a situation that calls for action. Instead he sits on his expansive behind, lets Scratch take him to the mall where he has absolutely no chance. Kalani then writes "I would do anything for my child." This is the contradiction I take umbrage with. If he would do anything then fight when you have the chance even if the odds are slim. I think that this lack of action shows up as guilt later as he calls Micheal, Saul and Angel "macho" and flattens the tire on the hummer on the way out the gate during the food run to the base. I digress. Later in the story line he is in the arena, and let me reiterate "I would do anything for my child", so he promptly tries to kill himself to alleviate the pain he feels for what is happening to Hannah. The worst kind of cowardice. He is still conscious enough to hear Datu's arrival and communicate with him but magically can't stay awake help dig through the wall. In my opinion he plays dead and sacrifices Samantha then again has the magical ability to wake up just in time to be rescued. Simply stated he has done nothing to earn the pass from me

[trubkir]

I can agree to disagree

[trubkir]

New to posting I guess. Started listening during Season 1 when the podcast was at Chapter 5 part 2 of 3

[7oddisdead]

And as Kenny Rogers said

Ya gotta know when to hold em..know when to fold em..know when to walk away...etc. Given the situation in the car..i would think of the risks involved with what if I got shot...what would happen to her then?

Surprisingly...he does not get a pass from me either..love the guy..but some things can't be forgiven.

[yarri]

And as Kenny Rogers said

Ya gotta know when to hold em..know when to fold em..know when to walk away...etc. Given the situation in the car..i would think of the risks involved with what if I got shot...what would happen to her then?

Surprisingly...he does not get a pass from me either..love the guy..but some things can't be forgiven.

We can Agree to disagree but kalani is human he's not a solder or superman he did what he knew how to do.

[trubkir]

And as Kenny Rogers said

Ya gotta know when to hold em..know when to fold em..know when to walk away...etc. Given the situation in the car..i would think of the risks involved with what if I got shot...what would happen to her then?

Surprisingly...he does not get a pass from me either..love the guy..but some things can't be forgiven.

This is my main sticking point. If he would do anything why didn't he take the risk?