Chapter 28- Last Dying Breath Part 1

[Kc]

Sheesh, how many silenced guns are there?

We know of a silenced handgun. Burt gave it to Michael in season 1. We do not where it was stored. In Burt's Armory? Stay with Michael? If it were me, I would have certainly taken it on the water works mission.

We do not hear of the handgun until they are on the way to the Colony.
It is taken by the Colony
It is taken back from the colony and goes back to the tower.

Michael etal now drive back to the tower with a silenced pistol and a silenced MP5.

Burt also returns to the tower after looking for lizzy.

Burt is in the building for probably less than an hour before he goes out with Saul.

Extra people and extra weapons assemble to assault the Mallers.

When the group splits up, Burt thinks he has a silenced pistol in his back. But, we soon find out it is not in his bag.

Kalani shoots Pippin and leaves with Datu and the silenced handgun

Burt and Kalani drive from LAx to the Tower and are reinforced with Angel and Riley.

We never hear Burt inquire about the missing pistol. Kalani does not appear to have time to replace the handgun.

Kalani must "unload" the gun somewhere or take it to the hospital. If he does take it to the hospital, he does not appear to have used it.

Kalani is the shooter, but the custody chain of the silenced handgun is murky at best and not tied up with a neat little bow as KC usually does.

If there would have been exact weapon accountability, it wouldn't have "gone missing". But, now that this end of the story is tied up, what do you want to know? I didn't include every detail.

[Eviebae]

Scratch is very much 'heroic'. We don't know enough of her backstory to be definitive with the label of being either evil or a monster.

Perhaps you will understand my point more if I say my original post felt melodramatic. I've been intrigued by her for a long time. Kc has a history of introducing a character in a way that makes you think the story will go one way (thanks to the TV stereotypes many of us are exposed to) and turning the story so our sympathies are engaged. I'm pretty sure it's calculated, that's one of the many reasons I like this podcast so much.

[Adventureless_Hero]

If there would have been exact weapon accountability, it wouldn't have "gone missing". But, now that this end of the story is tied up, what do you want to know? I didn't include every detail.

How did Kalani obtain the Silenced Pistol?

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

How did Kalani obtain the Silenced Pistol?

he made it with a potato. Duhhhh!

[loydmilligan]

I am a first time poster, gotta say thanks to KC and the whole crew for producing such an excellent show.

Regarding this episode, I really felt Kalani did not handle the hostage situation very well. First, he did not insist on hearing hannah speak to confirm she was ok before going forward with the plan. Second, he did not attempt to get any info from pippin. I realize having hope there made that difficult. but i dunno, he could have whispered to pippin or something. And last, I am not sure why he thought that pretending he was dead was the best course of action after the war. Why not contact them? He had done everything asked of him, why not demand her back. Also, why not continue being a rat? He had already betrayed these people, why the sudden change of heart? I will say much of my opinion on how one should handle this situation is from movies....so who knows how a person would really react in this case.

The other thing I was wondering about, did Datu lie about Kalani's whereabouts or did he just not realize that Kalani had gone upstairs because he was so into that CD? Also, Michael should have realized Kalani's alibi was suspect because Kalani had spoken to Michael moments before the murder happened.

and the other thing I wanted to know but someone had already pointed out here - Scratch must have ordered Kalani to fire that bullet on her own - Durai would have no reason (that I can think of) to fake his motivations for starting the war.

Thanks again for all the time and effort put into this...GREAT the War montage/recap in this episode!

[Grognaurd]

EDIT

By chain of custody I do not mean formal paper for characters, I mean chain of possession in my own mind.

End Edit


Yea, I just want to follow the silenced pistol.

Kalani is a slippery eel. I did not peg him as the shooter or assassin, because of the difficulty of linking him to the handguns. If I assume one silenced handgun, it gets rough.

The gun has to come back from the colony. This leaves very little time for it to get to Burt, who puts it in his bag, where it appears Kalani stole it. It is not as if he took Shirley, but stealing a gun from someone who is about to go back out into the hell that is LA is a rotten thing to do. We also have to keep in mind, that Burt and Saul leave the tower before Pippin shows up. At this time Kalani would not have the pressing need for a silenced weapon.

Linking Kalani to Michael's silence pistol is not impossible, but it does get a little convoluted.

Kalani most likely brings the handgun to LAX. Burt and Kalani, drive back to the tower and over to the hospitol. As Kalani, does not use the silenced handgun to shoot our buddy Paul in the back of the head he may have left it back at the tower. Or, he brought it with him, but would not use it infront of Riley because he did not want to be linked to Pippin all the while worrying about using a gun because it is too loud and puts him at such risk he is actually jumped by a zombie.

I do not want to take anything away from your story. Just say the word and I will not do any more nit-picking of your excellent show, Lord knows, I have enough of my own nits to pick to keep me busy this summer

[Osiris]

Perhaps you will understand my point more if I say my original post felt melodramatic. I've been intrigued by her for a long time. Kc has a history of introducing a character in a way that makes you think the story will go one way (thanks to the TV stereotypes many of us are exposed to) and turning the story so our sympathies are engaged. I'm pretty sure it's calculated, that's one of the many reasons I like this podcast so much.

I got your point the first time around. I was piggy backing. Perhaps you should be less concerned with me 'getting it' and just roll with what happens.

[HardKor]

I am a first time poster, gotta say thanks to KC and the whole crew for producing such an excellent show.

Regarding this episode, I really felt Kalani did not handle the hostage situation very well. First, he did not insist on hearing hannah speak to confirm she was ok before going forward with the plan. Second, he did not attempt to get any info from pippin. I realize having hope there made that difficult. but i dunno, he could have whispered to pippin or something. And last, I am not sure why he thought that pretending he was dead was the best course of action after the war. Why not contact them? He had done everything asked of him, why not demand her back. Also, why not continue being a rat? He had already betrayed these people, why the sudden change of heart? I will say much of my opinion on how one should handle this situation is from movies....so who knows how a person would really react in this case.

The other thing I was wondering about, did Datu lie about Kalani's whereabouts or did he just not realize that Kalani had gone upstairs because he was so into that CD? Also, Michael should have realized Kalani's alibi was suspect because Kalani had spoken to Michael moments before the murder happened.

and the other thing I wanted to know but someone had already pointed out here - Scratch must have ordered Kalani to fire that bullet on her own - Durai would have no reason (that I can think of) to fake his motivations for starting the war.

Thanks again for all the time and effort put into this...GREAT the War montage/recap in this episode!

First of all welcome to the forums.
Kalani did mishandle the situation in so many ways. If he had told the Tower folks about what had happened to him in the first place they most likely would have helped him. But he has also just met these people and had no idea what they were like.
As far as some of things you brought up specifically: It seems like Kalani bailed on being the rat because he got freaked out after the war. Think about what it would be like to look around after the battle and see what the Mallers were capable of doing and then realize that you are the one responsible for causing it. He didn't want to help these people out anymore. He only helped them in the first place because he thought he had to to protect his daughter. After the war his priority shifted to laying low and trying to find another way to get Hannah back that didn't involve causing another situation like the war. At least that's how I see it anyway.

[Osiris]

The other thing I was wondering about, did Datu lie about Kalani's whereabouts or did he just not realize that Kalani had gone upstairs because he was so into that CD? Also, Michael should have realized Kalani's alibi was suspect because Kalani had spoken to Michael moments before the murder happened.

and the other thing I wanted to know but someone had already pointed out here - Scratch must have ordered Kalani to fire that bullet on her own - Durai would have no reason (that I can think of) to fake his motivations for starting the war.

Very interesting point about Datu and something I had not considered until just now. Why was Datu covering for Kalani unless he knew what was going down? Then again, if Datu DID know why would bother to cover for Kalani when Pippin was murdered? Why wouldn't he just sell that tubby bitch out? Instead he risks his own stake in The Tower by covering for him. Why? WHY DAMNIT!

Durai has plenty of motivation to fake the war. He's a manipulator. That's what they do. They manipulate. Scratch seems to be the one who would simply say 'You've got until 3 and then I'm going to burn your house down... 3...' Durai is the devious one. But, that's just me.

[Grognaurd]

Do not worry about the Datu thing. Kalani puts Datu's favorite CD in and turns up the radio. When the duo gets a call about it, Datu could say something, I never heard an alarm, did you? Kalani says No, i didn't it must have happened shortly after we left.