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    I want to see Hope come to the forefront, at least for a little while. I can't imagine her going back to LA with the group, and if she's left behind at Fort Irwin you might as well write her out of the story.

    How about a storyline where Hope knows about something critical relating to Ground Zero from her time at the Other Tower. Maybe she remembers an artifact that an Other Tower convoy brought back from Ground Zero that the government really wants to get its hands on. Or maybe Duncan really was an important scientist and it's Hope's description of him makes Riley realize that Duncan is Skittles. We need something plot related to justify Hope's continuing suvival.

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    I loved that episode. This one part is so much more exciting that the whole of chapter 27. I loved 'The War' montage. It got me pumped. I feel that Kalani was just going to put, i'm sorry. Maybe he still had some contact with the Mallers, and knew that they were coming again. In Chapter 24 I think he says something to the effect of 'it wasn't supposed to happen that way' when picking up Michael and the others at the golf course. I dunno. Anyone want to let me know if that is correct. I will listen tommorrow to see about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero View Post
    I don't think there are any strong reasons that we currently know of for anyone at Ft. Irwin to return to L.A. There has to be some new element they introduce to Michaels group so they can have a real reason to return to L.A. I'm hoping that the military group in Ft. Irwin have a shit load of intel regarding what happened, and possibly shed some light on Ground Zero.
    I agree with your point about having a real reason to return to LA. The only thing I can think of is a

    'Pull Factor'-
    meaning something they want / need compels them to return to LA. Resucing Hannah seems unlikely, but maybe Saul and the gang if they knew he was still alive. I can't see Mike & Co. going to Ground Zero on research grounds either, unless he goes with a host of other soldiers and there seems to be a real chance of coming up with a 'cure' if they can get some needed element from GZ. The only other reason I can think of them leaving Irwin is a

    'Push Factor'- meaning some shitty conditions at Irwin that compel them to GTFO, similar to what happened at the Colony. What if the Irwin guys are all crazy, or domineering? But ah, this doesn't seem likely to me, as I don't think Kc will re-hash the same basic plot element twice. I mean, how many places are they really going to escape from??


    If I had to guess, I vote for the 'Pull Factor' in the form of 'secret Irwin intel' about Ground Zero. And somehow they re-unite with Saul/Vic/CJ in the process...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviebae View Post
    I think she's a survivor, and Durai seems to rule by fiat rather than committee. I'm betting she's had a hard life and some hard losses but manages to hold on.
    That sounds way more heroic than I meant it to. I used to have rats as pets. Some people accepted it and some were appalled. I always said that a rat is a lot like a human being, the rougher they've had it the meaner they are. That's how I see Scratch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kc View Post
    Ok, I got confused. You mean Charlie, not Carl.
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviebae View Post
    That sounds way more heroic than I meant it to. I used to have rats as pets. Some people accepted it and some were appalled. I always said that a rat is a lot like a human being, the rougher they've had it the meaner they are. That's how I see Scratch.
    Scratch is very much 'heroic'. We don't know enough of her backstory to be definitive with the label of being either evil or a monster.
    joint-point-counter-joint

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    Sheesh, how many silenced guns are there?

    We know of a silenced handgun. Burt gave it to Michael in season 1. We do not where it was stored. In Burt's Armory? Stay with Michael? If it were me, I would have certainly taken it on the water works mission.

    We do not hear of the handgun until they are on the way to the Colony.
    It is taken by the Colony
    It is taken back from the colony and goes back to the tower.

    Michael etal now drive back to the tower with a silenced pistol and a silenced MP5.

    Burt also returns to the tower after looking for lizzy.

    Burt is in the building for probably less than an hour before he goes out with Saul.

    Extra people and extra weapons assemble to assault the Mallers.

    When the group splits up, Burt thinks he has a silenced pistol in his back. But, we soon find out it is not in his bag.

    Kalani shoots Pippin and leaves with Datu and the silenced handgun

    Burt and Kalani drive from LAx to the Tower and are reinforced with Angel and Riley.

    We never hear Burt inquire about the missing pistol. Kalani does not appear to have time to replace the handgun.

    Kalani must "unload" the gun somewhere or take it to the hospital. If he does take it to the hospital, he does not appear to have used it.

    Kalani is the shooter, but the custody chain of the silenced handgun is murky at best and not tied up with a neat little bow as KC usually does.

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    Hot dayyyamn! Well, kudos to everyone that thought Kalani was the trifecta. Man having my redshirt theory blown out the sky really sucked. LOL. oh well.
    Bill stealing all the stuff... LOL. I can't even remember if anyone even thought he was in the picture. So know we really know what he was "sorry" about. Those two striking a deal was classic and a huge surprise. Loved it.
    Still bum'd that Kalani did everything. I guess the saying hiding in plain sight or going with the simpliest idea really is the way to go.

    Ok, Michael's next step:
    I think he smoozes the base..crap, I mean..post Commander to take a good crew back to LA to do something violent and final to the mallers. They caused a good amount of pain, suffering and deaths and can't be allowed to get away with it.

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    could you see them flying in with a couple of blackhawks, maybe some apaches, and a platoon of combat ready soldiers dropping into the middle of maller town? oh, it would be epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reaper239 View Post
    could you see them flying in with a couple of blackhawks, maybe some apaches, and a platoon of combat ready soldiers dropping into the middle of maller town? oh, it would be epic.

    Dude.. I'm saying!
    No way can anyone on this side of the law, let that keep going.


 
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