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    It would make sense that more of the military would survive somewhere. Nuclear missile silos, ships and subs at sea, bases in the Arctic and on remote islands should have been untouched by the initial outbreak. I imagine that if any of them are out there then Fort Irwin should know about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche View Post
    There should be no way for the normal zombies and I have not seen enough out of Ink and other smart ones to think it is possible.
    Disclaimer: I know nothing about how military bases are actually set up

    I presume there is a fence or some sort of physical barrier around the base, if it was just the normal zombies then these might be strong enough to hold them back (although I imagine if there is a huge number of them then they may buckle under the sheer weight and force?) but what about the big ones? and the jumpers? Perhaps these ones could be the eventual downfall of the base.

    An epic siege over several episodes or parts, the humans seem to have it under control, then a bad ass marked up suit wearing beast turns up, organises the remaining zombies who distract the humans while their trump card of big and jumpy ones break in and cause havoc and then allow the rest in?

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    Under normal circumstances military bases aren't that well fortified. Here in the US the bases I've been on had fairly strong fences around their perimeters when there was a town nearby. These tended to be 10 feet chain link fences, with concrete posts and topped with concertina wire. But along the sides of the bases where there weren't towns there were no fences or barriers. After 9/11 the public gates were fortified with concrete walls, pop up barriers in the roads, etc.

    Bottom line, I don't think that bases with large towns/cities adjacent would stand much of a chance unless they got advanced warning.

    The thing about Fort Irwin is that they could have gotten that advanced warning, and they have a lot of distance from the local towns. With a few hours warning they could have erected barriers, built walls, laid out minefields and set out armed outposts that should have provided effective defenses.

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    There are some "Open" posts. That means that only the priority areas will be fenced in. Ft Lewis is a post that doesn't have a perimeter fence (or it didn't the last time I was there). So anyone could walk in. Since Ft. Irwin has already secured the dorms..er, barracks, you can assume that the perimeter has been secured.

    The avenue of approach (why am I having a feeling of Deja Vu?) for the infected is up the highway. It's a choke point and if anyone knows about Killzones, Key Terrain and such stuff, it's gonna be a training base for infantry and light mechs.
    These aren't WWZ type super Z's who can survive sustained rates fire from tanks, small arms fire and f'n Apache copters. These go down from massive trauma.
    I Behemoth will go down from concentrated and coordinated fire

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    "Just once, I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets!" —Brigadier Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart, Doctor Who

    Thanks KC, for giving the guys with guns a fighting chance, for once! If an M-16 or 9mm can take down a zombie then imagine what you can do when you move out of the realm of "small arms".

    I want to see how well a Behemoth does against a depleted uranium armor-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot round fired by an M-1 tank. Imagine the energy generated by a semi, travelling at 60 MPH, transfered over an area the size of a dime. Armor is transformed into a gaseous plasma at the point of impact. My guess is that the Behemoth becomes a chunky pink mist.
    Last edited by Cabbage Patch; Mar 29th, 2012 at 01:40 PM.

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    Toot Toot! CP. That is what I like to hear!

    The one part you left out was "... from more than a mile away!" These bastards will blow through a foot of rolled steel at 1,000 yards.

    Do they still run HEAT rounds these days?

    When the mass infantry I mean zombies banzai charges, The tanks can fire Cannister Rounds. Similar to Burt's Claymore in season one. But instead of the enemy coming to the mine, the tanks can move, aim and detonate it where and when they choose.

    The tanks and the bradleys have .50cals, One of these knocked a beheomoth on its ass. As saul says, I do nto know if I killed it, but I sure as hell broke something, or soemthig like that.
    An awesome attack mode on zombies would be:

    Tank commander pops the top and yells "Nanana booboo" at the zombies. When the zombies get the hint and assault the tank, the commander goes back to button up and then another tank hoses the first tank down.

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    the great thing is that the abrams are damn near impervious to damage. at the battle of medina ridge (gulf war 1, the first large scale engagement between the abrams and the t-72) the only abrams lost was due to friendly fire as a result of damaged optics. the tank was disabled and the crew had their bells rung, but there were no casualties.

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    Ah, yes, the battle of 73 Easting. Tanks Forward to smash the heavy stuff and Bradleys trail to obliterate any infantry trying to rally and reoccupy anything that is left. I was going to mention it, because it was one of the few examples where command unmuzzled the dog. People have no clue how much damage these things can do in such a very short time.

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    I am pretty sure the people at Ft Irwin are the mallers. The guy they meet when first landing is named Puck. Scratch says, "Puck is expendable" when they were attacking the tower the second time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plurabelle View Post
    I am pretty sure the people at Ft Irwin are the mallers. The guy they meet when first landing is named Puck. Scratch says, "Puck is expendable" when they were attacking the tower the second time.
    Kc has said that one is a nickname (Maller) and Puck at the Fort is a last name so they are two different people.
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