Chapter 27- The Thirty First part 2

[VidjaGamez]

This make me think crazy again...so this is the chapter we learn kalanis last name. Could that imply that things are not as black and white as we have made them? Perhaps a nice shade of grey?...reading to much into it in sure, but hey....thats what I do

There's a grey to just about everything, I can't deny that.

I'd just really like to have someone prove me wrong on the whole "accidental rat" thing. He went from people not believing that he is a rat to being an accidental rat. But how in the world do you let that information slip to someone you're already on your toes with! Lol!!

"So is my daughter alive? Yea? Well don't hurt her! What can I do to get her back? BTW, my exact location is the other tower and they're throwing a party tonight, place is going to be totally unguarded, crazy right! So, what can I do to save my daughter?"

But now I'm nervous, because it could be absolutely plausible that maybe it was someone else... Maybe Kalani thought he "knew" for some time that Hannah was dead. Again, here I go thinking too far in to it without all my ducks in a row.

[nikvoodoo]

I agree. In the end even if blackmailed, he could have come to the Tower and said at some point, 'they have my daughter, oh and are listening to you over the airwaves'. In that case Michael might have been willing to set something up to get Hannah back.

Missed this comment....

I don't think he could have. How do you even broach that subject with people who are irrationally emotional? Michael has a total hard ass side, Angel overreacts, Burt would have shot him (Kelly probably would have tried to score with his corpse), and Rioey would down two shots for fallen friends.

Point being, I don't think Kalani would have a legitimate way To bring this up without fear.

[Tielurrdee]

Ok I'm new to the board but I have listened to the seasons over and over going over small details. 1st thought for you guys I have not seen discussed. Hannah (kalani's daughter) has to be the girl on the golf course in my mind. My reason being that angel and michael have no clue who kalani is talking about before he crashes the helicopter to stop the tanker. In chapter 10 purgatory datu describes Samantha as having red hair when he first sees her, in chapter 27 part 2 kalani says Samantha's hair is just like his now passed wife. Assuming that Hannah may have red hair. Which means bingo she could be the redheaded girl the mallers shoot on the golf course because they have her. The description of the girl could have been relayed to kalani in the helicopter as he picked up michael and the others to get back to defend the tower before it fell. Also before scratch drops off Pipen (the english guy) she is talking to tar, in the conversation she says she is dropping off pipen then tar said "what about the other one " and scar says "we still have her" tar says "no the one already in the tower" and scar says he hasn't responded in a while. Meaning kalani may indeed be the rat. But may have had no hope that Hannah was alive for some reason or another (or a change of heart) though he wants his daughter he may have had no options to get her or they may have falsely promised him to get her back and they did not follow through. Also could have feared death for himself if he kept helping the mallers get to the tower he was placing himself in to much danger of being killed in the mallers attacks on the tower therefor never seeing his daughter again. He had motivation to kill pipen, access and knowledge of the tower, trust from Bert. If anyone noticed burt tells Saul on the Tarmac to grab his silenced pistol which is not there, kalani walked downstairs to meet datu in the garage right after talking to Michael 2 minutes before pipen is shot along with the downstairs CB radio. They never rule kalani out as the shooter but don't have time and kalani brushes past the situation when Saul and Bert ask Iwhat happened back at the tower when datu and kalani meet at LAX. I could keep going I have more info and thoughts on characters but I'll stop for the moment that was a lot KC and crew you guys are doing an incredible job connecting all of this I am catching everything you throw out there it makes perfect sense.

[7oddisdead]

^this...
I've said this before, but I think at times we as a forum are just to close to the story to see the truth..while we sit back and over analyze the story into the dirt...the truth of the matter is, this story isnt written by us. While we want to add all the crazy twists and plot points we can just to make it more interesting to us...the die hard fans...the truth is, we are a minority (a very important minority..but none the less)..so while trying to scheme how this could not be kalani, the truth is...it most likely is. So yea...i think going forward arkum and his razor will be employed a bit more...by me at least

[nikvoodoo]

Hello new member. Take a look back in Season 2 chapter 24 for all the conversation about Hannah being the redhead. It's also been mentioned often in this thread.

But....you're saying there is no chance Scratch (who told the tower she has two hostages in chapter 24 after the golf course incident took place) dyed a girl's hair red and had her shot?

And 7odd: Occam's razor. Arkum is in Gotham City full of whack jobs

[7oddisdead]

It was a pun Nik...good to see you got it...what?me do normal?

[Tielurrdee]

I will discuss a bit of characters if I may. First off skittles/ Duncan obviously they are indeed the same the big clue was the credit at the end to the voice actor at the end of chapter 27 part 2 there would be no need for that credit other wise plus you can tell the voice if you go back and listen to skittles then listen to Duncan . Skittles seems to know kalani when they hide at the water tower and I wondered why forever tell the connection came between them in kalani's journal. Skittles also had been to the reserve base before it makes mention of that in ch27p2 so of course he thought to go back to hide and maybe find more stuff. Everyone should know the rest of Duncan's story where he has been and what has happened it was simply a mistake letting the guy in the striped suit in. So in chapter 2 part 3 minute 20:50 they mention bill Roberts aka ink who in my mind has to be the guy from the arena also the guy Riley shoots in the hospital also the guy in the pin striped suit who is also the guy who watched Burt, Saul, and lizzy on the roof in lady and the tink. Randy is mentioned in as being sent to the water works by Chinwe , he defiantly meets Michael some how there this whole story is love to know. Michael says randy's name when he wakes up from surgery and when Tanya is being drug by a zombie with a long beard and hair from the outside of the tower. I also wonder if randy could also be the swat member mentioned from chinwe's tower. I still wonder about this theory. I did however predict Tanya being sals mother the second Michael described her. Next thought I think angel and Bert are the 2 scratch found after the tower fell. 1 has to be Bert "the old man" 2 she found what she wanted and for some reason she was really intrested in angel I think she still wants revenge on pegs for killing latch and will use him to find and try to get to pegs if she can. Scratch also said she recognized him in the garage this still makes me curious as to why this is.

[Tielurrdee]

[QUOTE=nikvoodoo;35937]Hello new member. Take a look back in Season 2 chapter 24 for all the conversation about Hannah being the redhead. It's also been mentioned often in this thread.

But....you're saying there is no chance Scratch (who told the tower she has two hostages in chapter 24 after the golf course incident took place) dyed a girl's hair red and had her shot?

Well I'm glad it's been said I searched and didn't see the theory but hadn't looked throught every thread. The dying hair thing I could defiantly go for because scratch said she still had 2 of the towers people I just wonder if it was a bluff to out kalani I guess well find out. I'm enjoying all of your guys post I just have a lot of connections I've searched into for hours while I worked with my headphones on. I hope to read some more great stuff on all of these boards.

[clem131]

Clem,

That is sorta my point. You say she may be cold and aloof after the zombocolypse. But, I think her behavior is cold and aloof even before, just the type of person one may want on some below code clinical trials.

Ah, in that sense, yes, might be, I don't know what to think with all the conspiracy theories behind the bandage on her arm and her being cold etc. I was more commenting on the particular scene you cited, her reunion with her son.

[clem131]

If anyone noticed burt tells Saul on the Tarmac to grab his silenced pistol which is not there, kalani walked downstairs to meet datu in the garage right after talking to Michael 2 minutes before pipen is shot along with the downstairs CB radio.

I wrote about it, essentially he must have grabbed the pistol prior to the shooting, like some days before, as Burt and Saul were already out at LAX before Pippin arrives, but it makes sense, he might have stashed that as a precaution or as an exit strategy.