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    Since subways have been confirmed. I wouldn't recommend using them as ways of getting around underground since its a "breeding" ground for Z's. If they are low on food, eating the mice that are always there might be beneficial to them. We have to assume sewers are okay to travel and easier to booby-trap in case there are Z's coming your way. I only mention not subways because of this flick I saw, "Stag Night". It is possible to have a "rogue" group of Z's lying about somewhere in the city...

    I do like the theory that if the Z's were smarter and more organized they would use the sewers and subway lines to get the jump on humans by using the behemoths to force them into an area where there are man holes to come out of. Just an Idea...

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    we talked about those a few months back. Dumbest idea of dumbe ideas... and just plain suicidal. Dark, full of corners, lack of places to exit quickly, poor footing, really bad place to fire a weapon... the list goes on and on..

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    the brass...

    Ammo will run out and brass can be reloaded as Crowbar says. But, with what? Ammo is more common than smokeless powder and lead. Old black powder could be made, but is a lot harder than it looks. It is not just add some charcoal to some saltpetre and some sulfer pour in into a piece of bamboo and knock the Gorn on his ass.

    The part that most forget is grain size. The finer the grind the better the burn. So as a scavenger I might like some for noise or light flash makers not as a mass driver. Even empty they ca be usefull. There are a lot of things that go bump in the night, but hollow brass on hollow brass or on a hard surface is as good as any windchime and very distinctive. The flashbang trap is a dead giveaway, but scattering brass, empty bottles or cans or whatever may not actually alert the intruder. It is more likely that these are refuse from the outbreak as it is a communication device.

    Going back to Subway vs. water pipes. The subway will have many more walking dead than the water-ways. But, a case could be made that it could be cleared and relatively secure with limited access points. But, another advantage of the sewers is "hmmm.... It has not rained in more than a week. Where is that water running off from? It could provide information on a waterspring and it will also alert me to survivors trying to hold onto the past. All of Tower's used water had to go somewhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche View Post
    the brass...

    Ammo will run out and brass can be reloaded as Crowbar says. But, with what? Ammo is more common than smokeless powder and lead. Old black powder could be made, but is a lot harder than it looks. It is not just add some charcoal to some saltpetre and some sulfer pour in into a piece of bamboo and knock the Gorn on his ass.

    The part that most forget is grain size. The finer the grind the better the burn. So as a scavenger I might like some for noise or light flash makers not as a mass driver. Even empty they ca be usefull. There are a lot of things that go bump in the night, but hollow brass on hollow brass or on a hard surface is as good as any windchime and very distinctive. The flashbang trap is a dead giveaway, but scattering brass, empty bottles or cans or whatever may not actually alert the intruder. It is more likely that these are refuse from the outbreak as it is a communication device.

    Going back to Subway vs. water pipes. The subway will have many more walking dead than the water-ways. But, a case could be made that it could be cleared and relatively secure with limited access points. But, another advantage of the sewers is "hmmm.... It has not rained in more than a week. Where is that water running off from? It could provide information on a waterspring and it will also alert me to survivors trying to hold onto the past. All of Tower's used water had to go somewhere...

    The only thing about clearing the sewers.. you'd have to do it over and over and over again every time you went down, unless you had patrols set up and they do't have the manpower. "That's like clearing the Nile of Crocs....and saying "it's ok to go swimming. we cleared this part yesterday."

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    An LP/OP is a scout. Small team, forward of an element, if compromised they break contact to a larger force. That's a scout. My point was he's ill prepared and acting like he's never been out in a small team before, which we know is false. Regardless of if he was stationed at a hardstand location or out on recon patrols he knows better than to not have food and water. He's right under Datu as my least favorite person right now.
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    Okay, can it be confirmed either way if Saul and Victor saw one person or two? I know Saul says he a lot, singular, but then Saul and Victor also switch between saying they which can be plural or used kinda slangy to refer to someone of unknown sex or numbers.

    It sounds like Victor and Saul see only the one person dressed in a black hoodie, hiking boots, etc, but my buddy is convinced they saw two people inspecting the gate.
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    I will accept that it is not a sure thing, but a more apt destription would be we cleared this tributary and the dam is in place. Or shark nets at a beach.

    Oh, and if you did nto get it, my earlier joke

    The 17s were an LA gang in Ex-Heroes and Boyle Heights Boys were in World War Z.

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    I bet Hoodie is Britt. She's finally going to get her role in WA. She and Pete have been setting up these secret orchards that he keeps fed with his endless supply of water. They have a bad ass lair in the sewers with it's own power supply and copies of various Zelda games for each console generation. She spares Sauls life because he has a DS that happens to have a copy of Spirit Tracks in it.

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    I think Saul needs to slow down before he gets himself and others killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    I think Saul needs to slow down before he gets himself and others killed.
    Yes, Saul has been pretty good at sacrificing the safety of others to satisfy his own wants. In season 1 he persuades Lizzy and Burt to drive to his apartment to rescue his "girl" Lady, who turns out to be a bitch. In season 2, he single-handedly (and successfully) jeopardizes the entire Tower with his hair-brain "Peg-less swap" at the golf course...to, once again, save his bitch...this time Lizzy. Now we begin season 3, with him acting like a bitch, with Vicky. Hopefully a hoodied Britt won't take him out with a headshot.

    What till we find out Mr. Hoodie is a Ms. Hoodie. Saul will be somebody's bitch, for sure.


 
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