Chapter 26- "Who Overcomes" Part 1

[looney]

Ok, also, what if those MP5s came from some Private Security Company working on behalf of the Coast Guard as protection or a Quick Reaction Force? I have visions of the PSCs in the series Jericho popping in my head, and those Blackwater, Xe, whatever-they're-called-these-days provided gun support for State Department in Iraq. PSCs could easily have MP5s in their inventory. Just saying...

Ok, back to Battlefield 3 for now... waiting for Monday is killing me.

Also, CAG and Special Forces groups, as well as SEALs, Rangers, and most other special operations pull security for diplomats and carry MP5s in a lot of those situations. It's crazy how available those things are across the armed services.

[Tyrone]

Another cracking episode, I hope the Ft Irwin residents don't turn out like the colony. If they need to be removed from the story because it's not very interesting if they are just chilling out perfectly safe, then please let there be some epic battle where the zombies lay siege to Ft Irwin and eventually over run it.

Still don't think Angel is alive though, I just can't see how he could be, he was on top of a building as it went down!

It does seem unlikely that he'd survive, but it'd also be very difficult, plotwise, to kill Angel just yet. There's some reason why Scratch recognizes him, I'm sure. When we find out why, it'll probably be important, and he'll probably still be around.

[clem131]

When Michael asked his guard what the situation was at Fort Irwin that soldier, Private Thomas, said "It's whoever's stationed here still, sergeant."

Can somebody please quickly rephrase this for me?

[Paolo912]

Can somebody please quickly rephrase this for me?

Whoever was at the fort when the SHTF is who is there now. We don't know anything else about who or how many yet.

Also, from his wording, it sounds like they haven't taken any casualties yet.

[reaper239]

Swapping uppers in an environment like WA would be close to impossible. Your barrels would be impossible to keep clean, and the chamber would be full of so much stuff that you'd have constant jams. I'm not one of those "M16 variants are horrible and always jam" nut jobs either. My M4 saved my life plenty of times and I trust the AR platform since I know how to use it. But short of sealing the upper in a plastic bag to carry it around, you're just asking for a dirty chamber. I like the idea, though. It makes a very versatile fighter and eliminates an entire weapon system.

I know for a fact that our UH-60 pilots had MP5s. Granted, the JGG isn't a Blackhawk, and our pilots are US Army aviators, but it's not out of the realm of possibility that the original rescue pilots for the JGG weren't Army pilots that didn't already have a bird. I'm grasping at straws with that theory, but it's not THAT crazy.

Thanks crowbar. That is in my top 5 scariest things that has ever happened to me.

all you'd have to do to keep crud out of the reciever is wrap it in a blanket. sf teams are starting to field test a new 7.62 built exactly like the M4 with the same modularity, and they carry two different uppers (obviously one is on the gun) but basically all they do to keep the other one from getting gunked up is wrap it in a shemagh and keep it in a backpack. also i have heard that frog lube does wonders, even in a dirty reciever. also, i know i said "on the fly" (or something to that effect, i'm not looking at the post to confirm) but the switch would be made to change roles in a combat environment. so, say going from a CQB capacity with the 10.3" or even the 14" to a sniper role with the 18" isn't something you would just do. you would get into an overwatch position, and once secure, then you would switch to a sniper role. you would have another guy to support you, and then, if there was time and you weren't under GTFO protocols, you could switch back to the close quarters system. obviously this isn't perfect, but i think that it has merit as a concept and, once refined (which i think some SF units already have) would be a great way to get "on the fly" sniper support. even under sniper fire, as long as you had cover, you could switch to a counter sniper role in just a few seconds. not for on the run, but still better than carrying two weapon systems.

[beezball]

I still like my Riley is pregnant theory. It's so obvious.

[Ra1th]

I still like my Riley is pregnant theory. It's so obvious.

but if she's pregnant why is she drinking so much?

[Grognaurd]

One thing that has bothered Michael is lack of intel. But, his recon capability was highly restricted.

The base should also want intel. Their goal may have been to turtle. Just hunker down and ride it out. Or, they may want to recon, but remain hidden. We humans are essentially afraid of the dark. We can see better and farther in the dark than we can sitting around the a campfire or on station with a torch. These lights are easily seen from a distance. As Burt said when Latch and Scratch show up, maybe because we are the only building with the lights on? Do we think they have recon drones?

[dontkillburt]

but if she's pregnant why is she drinking so much?

Initially I thought, maybe it's because Riley doesn't want the baby. But, as anyone who watched "I Love Lucy" growing up, everyone knows that smokin' & drinkin' while pregnant was part of pre-natal care in the '50's. Probably won't work as an abortion option, even today, despite all the surgeon generals' warnings.

I'm still under the belief that, if there is anyone pregnant from the Tower group...it would be Pegs. She appears to have had the only record of an intimate relationship (with Michael, back at the beachhouse). To further this conspiracy, in chapter 25, part 2 at about 21:50, Pegs makes the comment to Michael about "you not getting something." Michaels's response was (drum roll please) "Now is ONE of those times?" Pegs pushes the effort in saying "It's been so long since it was you and I. I just want to to be close to you."

Oh boy. Get ready to pass the cigars Michael. Pray that it's a Burt and not just a boy.

[beezball]

Initially I thought, maybe it's because Riley doesn't want the baby. But, as anyone who watched "I Love Lucy" growing up, everyone knows that smokin' & drinkin' while pregnant was part of pre-natal care in the '50's. Probably won't work as an abortion option, even today, despite all the surgeon generals' warnings.

I'm still under the belief that, if there is anyone pregnant from the Tower group...it would be Pegs. She appears to have had the only record of an intimate relationship (with Michael, back at the beachhouse). To further this conspiracy, in chapter 25, part 2 at about 21:50, Pegs makes the comment to Michael about "you not getting something." Michaels's response was (drum roll please) "Now is ONE of those times?" Pegs pushes the effort in saying "It's been so long since it was you and I. I just want to to be close to you."

Oh boy. Get ready to pass the cigars Michael. Pray that it's a Burt and not just a boy.

You're right, she was trying to induce a miscarriage (Sure it might not work, but she maybe was too drunk to realize it), and all the vomit was from the morning sickness, not the entire bottle of JD. I suspect she had a fling with the talking zombie, Paul! That is my theory.