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    Quote Originally Posted by nikvoodoo View Post
    Do we know for a fact that they walked along the ocean floor? If they were swimming shallow and bobbing up for air would Pegs and Michael even noticed?
    We don't know for sure if they were walking along the bottom. I think theres a good chance they would have noticed if they were on the surface though, Pegs and Michael were swimming through the water toward the boat, any odd movement probably would have caught their eye. maybe the zombies just dont need as much air? or, depending how far the island was from the boat, maybe the zombies came while michael and pegs were inside the boat. Riley did not mention seeing any zombies though before they arrived at the boat did she? and wouldn't she have seen them if she was looking towards the boat from the shore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kek View Post
    We don't know for sure if they were walking along the bottom. I think theres a good chance they would have noticed if they were on the surface though, Pegs and Michael were swimming through the water toward the boat, any odd movement probably would have caught their eye. maybe the zombies just dont need as much air? or, depending how far the island was from the boat, maybe the zombies came while michael and pegs were inside the boat. Riley did not mention seeing any zombies though before they arrived at the boat did she? and wouldn't she have seen them if she was looking towards the boat from the shore?
    Correction, Kelly, not Riley.

    The comment was made, back during the chloroform experiment, that "sharks can smell 1 drop of blood in a million drops of water." maybe, when they got in, they attracted them. Maybe they were all sleeping/wasting away at the bottom of the water, and then were awoken by the smell in the water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollomandious View Post
    Correction, Kelly, not Riley.

    The comment was made, back during the chloroform experiment, that "sharks can smell 1 drop of blood in a million drops of water." maybe, when they got in, they attracted them. Maybe they were all sleeping/wasting away at the bottom of the water, and then were awoken by the smell in the water?
    I meant Kelly...

    That could be true too, since it had been mentioned many times about the zombies having a good sense of smell.

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    Perhaps the zombies do need oxygen, if their bodies can still process food then they should be able to process air. Without oxygen their muscles would lock up and not be able to move properly, but I suppose that would not really matter to them since they already seem to exert their muscles with their excessive speed and strength.

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    Seeing how the zombies seem to be functioning so inefficiently how long can the outbreak last? Between starvation and a general lack an ability to reproduce the zombies will die off from natural means faster than they can rebuild their numbers. Starvation and freezing are going to be the leading causes of zombie death in the winter I guarantee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollomandious View Post
    I think Saul said it best...

    Angel - Listen to yourself? The dead, rising?
    Saul - Who said they were dead?

    But the breathing thing has me stuck. The ones that came from Catalina and were walking along the bottom of the water. Highly doubt they were breathing underwater, or maybe they grew gills and we don't know it? (i'm still bitter about not getting a zombie shark).
    Holy crap. Shark zombies? Awesome. All they need freak'n lazer beams attacted to their heads.

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    They dont have time to bleed, But if it bleeds you can kill it, so.

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    I was just thinking that the main thing we know about the zombies is that they adjust to whatever is thrown at them. If you give them chloroform they adjust to either metabolize it quicker, or, change the physical process involved. Thing is, how does this virus or whatever know what is a threat and what isn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviebae View Post
    I was just thinking that the main thing we know about the zombies is that they adjust to whatever is thrown at them. If you give them chloroform they adjust to either metabolize it quicker, or, change the physical process involved. Thing is, how does this virus or whatever know what is a threat and what isn't?
    You'd be amazed in how quickly a pathogen adapts to threats in the regular world already. Think about the common cold- a simple virus that if in all relative theory a cough medicine/flu shot could cure...if it wasn't for the ever changing designs of the strain that is the common cold and a many other viruses.

    And I will just go out and venture that they ARE dead by the way. They eat due to primal instincts that the virus programs the host to carry out (for the obvious reason of how a virus thinks- to spread itself)- this too doesn't mean the food DIGEST. Ever hear of bloating? The guck could just sit in the stomach and cause their stomachs to expand, also causing a horrid smell. I seen that shit in dead people who had eaten prior to their deaths and discovered a time later. Dear God- you will never forget that smell, it STABS at your gag reflex.

    To an earlier comment trying to describe the shit smell- I would just have to disagree/agree simultaneously. Agree on this- yes, they probably did shit themselves, but probably only once- the last true FOOD they ate- the only food that was properly DIGESTED. Disagree on the ever resonating scent of shit- I would venture to say that's probably rotting flesh. ANOTHER body I've sadly smelt...you never want to find a dead person in the desert man- their bodies are practically well-done charred due to constant sun exposure and let me tell ya- humans don't smell like any steak when cooked sadly...so I would try to tie this experience in with the UNDEAD and say that to be exposed for God knows how long to Nature's elements is something that could cause significant odor.

    As for sustaining the body in conditions like being underwater- I would have to guess that the body goes to a primal state due to the virus- minimizing the bodies usual necessities (O2, blood flow, brain function, ext) to a very primal state of functioning- maybe a sub-conscious level of operating. In all reality- zombies are the EVOLUTION of human beings...well, maybe mutation would be a better word- but it's along the lines of they are superior to us on a physical aspect.

    In the world of W.A. tho- TOWTM seems to posses not only the physical superiority, but also intellectual- making me think that he/she is a mutation of a mutation or if not that, a "Patient 0" and the subsidiaries of the virus that he/she spread are lesser beings and perhaps carry only fractions of his/her power (as seen as the runners are only fast, the smart ones are purely smart/creative, the big ones are purely physical and the regular ones are only spreaders/gatherers)

    But back on track- bleeding. I think this is a matter of story telling time-line. Do I think they bled in the earlier stages- sure- fresh bodies=fresh blood, even enough to spray. But this far along in the story- I don't see it as probable due to coagulation (which not even a virus could alter since oxygen WILL get into the blood unless it is kept warm- to my knowledge at least), this is unless there are NEW zombies (like those being drug to the hospital in ch 23).

    I do have a further theory based on metaphysics- but I will not even go there unless asked to.

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    I would think so. If their blood is pumping then they can bleed, and they didn't say they were dead. Which means their blood could still be pumping.


 
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