Chapter 23 Pt 3 - The Devil's Workshop

**HardKor** · Jul 11th, 2011, 01:05 PM

I just re listened to 23-1. Kelly came back into the Tower with Michael and Steven. She says that her and Steven are going to carry Tanya back in and then Michael's narration states that they made it back into the Tower before more biters showed up (~12:38-12:55 mark for those interested)

**GD_Elite** · Jul 11th, 2011, 01:07 PM

@nikvoodoo kelly went back to the normal tower with Michael, Steven and Tanya. (Okay HardKor got there first)

First of all I'm worried about my moral compass. I was upset when Angel and Burt got saved and I was happy when Saul started something evil to balance the episode out a little. However I'm going to use the excuse that I'm not some sort of sociopath because I got my predictions wrong.

I agree Arthur LaMarche. It has been unclear since they got back from the colony if any days have passed at all. It would be nice to know how much time has passed since they got back from the colony.

It would appear that Scratch would want Pegs. But how is Saul going to get her to come with her? I can't see how this could happen realistically. Hmm..

My biggest concern with this episode, is what the army of zombies are doing. So we think they all came to have a new home. Have they come in and made themselves at home or are they all stood outside still. If the blood pools in the psycho ward are fresh, does that mean the alive ones being draggged in have gone straight up, processed and moved along in the time the team were stuck in the room?

**Grognaurd** · Jul 11th, 2011, 01:11 PM

I think it is pretty clear that very little time has elapsed since they came back from the colony. Twenty four for sure. Probably 36, but not 48.

**seanofthedead** · Jul 11th, 2011, 01:28 PM

my money is that the rat is kelly. here is why. when kelly was first introduced in the series her occupation was lawyer, a rather generic term. lets just assume she's a criminal defense lawyer and the she represented some of the mallers. now judging from the past dialog that kelly has had and how she is represented in the series it is more plausible that she is the rat.

**GD_Elite** · Jul 11th, 2011, 01:33 PM

You are right about them sleeping the night, I missed that.
Also good point about Kelly not telling Saul about the zombies outside the tower. I wouldn't have thought that they would have killed all the zombies outside the tower because I thought it was suggested they were going to be extra guards. I guess they rejected that idea. or Kelly is stupid.

Other points to note: At the mall they had all the radios lined up so that they could scan all the CB channels. The fact that Scratch picked up the radio after Sauls first try makes it seem like they have found Durai, and are able to scan all chanels again (It seems unlikely that they would have 40 radios in Scratchs car). Yet if this is the case, they can't have gone too far away because they are still in range, and the colony is probably out of range usually.

Also, it sounds like the mental ward was kept a secret before this all happened. Would Angel have known about this place since episode 1 when it was brought up? I believe on the google map, there was a different mental facility in range of LA too. Could this have been where Ink went after his trial? Is that why he still spends time here. But the one with the markings gets around. The Arena, the hospital, the other tower, the tower twice, two convoy ambushes. And it has superhuman reflexes? Testing on mental patients is quite common in this sort of genre. But then what is ground zero? I'm so confused

**nikvoodoo** · Jul 11th, 2011, 01:36 PM

Apologies, hardkor and the slightly tardy to the party GD

I just remember her taking the shots. I didn't recall kelly going back to the Tower.

**Jeebogs** · Jul 11th, 2011, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by 7oddisdead

So a question....would Saul have instinctually known that the mallers were policing all CB channels? By the sound just before Saul made the call to scratch, it sounded Like he turned the dial fairly random. I'm not ready to label Saul the rat...but damn dude...*shakes head*

I'm assuming he's turned to channel 18, that's the one they indicated for the tower to turn to at the start of the war, and that's the channel Angel uses when he drops off Latch's body.

Why is everyone adamant that Saul is going to offer up Pegs? Did I miss something?