Chapter 23 Pt 2 - The Devil's Workshop

**yarri** · Jun 28th, 2011, 09:19 AM

I have to say.. I wept for the first seven minutes. Then I started screaming at them to run for the remainder of the story. K.c, this one was the best one yet. I think the guys driving in the car next to me on the highway at work thought I was insane..
I can't wait for the next two weeks to be OVER!!!!

**j0be** · Jun 28th, 2011, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Kc

Think bigger: Attachment 815

Keep in mind this isn't exactly Cain, but you get the idea...

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I got it right on the google maps version.

**GD_Elite** · Jun 28th, 2011, 10:44 AM

So last week I thought that the zombies had likely caught /Lizzy/Bricks/Tardust and I thought that this could be the way we get some more insight into what the zombies are doing at the hospital. This leads me to believe that it is quite likely that Burt/Angel will get captured by the zombies. We know they are taking live prisoners, and we need to see what the zombies are doing. (Surprised no-one has mentioned this possibility)

However, I do not think it is looking good for Angel. During this episode he references 3 different events that happened in the past within the story so far (Alley with Kalani, fridge with Riley, rooftop with Riley). This seems to me like it could be a "best bits" section for him before the end.

I also think that it is very interesting that Scratch and co came back for Lizzy/Tar/Bricks. I thought that as hardened criminals, losing a few people isn't such a big deal. However, it makes me wonder why she came back. Was it for Tardust/Bricks because they are major players in the Mallers? Or is it because of Lizzy? Scratch does seem to really want to keep Lizzy alive. (which started as soon as she realized Lizzy was sick.)

**HaveCrowBarWillTravel** · Jun 28th, 2011, 12:50 PM

Lack of a solid plan going in is what did them in. So, how do they get out? Kalani fires up the chopper and hovers above the window as close as possible. The ripped sheet is tied on both wheels or one. Burt holds the door while Angels makes a leap for it then Burt makes a wild attempt once Angel is clear.
That some Hollywood ish right there. However, it's better to die trying then not.

Saul is a cool dude (Ra1th!!!).

He headed in the LOGICAL direction to the most LOGICAL place. Angel did a good job keeping his head this time. He was in pure Angel form inside the car though. LOL.
I laughed my buttocks off with these characters getting turned around in the hospital. Not knowing what floor you were on is stupid, or which direction...
Bread crumbs dumbasses.. Bread crumbs!!!

**Kn1ckerb0cker33** · Jun 28th, 2011, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel

Lack of a solid plan going in is what did them in. So, how do they get out? Kalani fires up the chopper and hovers above the window as close as possible. The ripped sheet is tied on both wheels or one. Burt holds the door while Angels makes a leap for it then Burt makes a wild attempt once Angel is clear.
That some Hollywood ish right there. However, it's better to die trying then not.

Saul is a cool dude (Ra1th!!!).

He headed in the LOGICAL direction to the most LOGICAL place. Angel did a good job keeping his head this time. He was in pure Angel form inside the car though. LOL.
I laughed my buttocks off with these characters getting turned around in the hospital. Not knowing what floor you were on is stupid, or which direction...
Bread crumbs dumbasses.. Bread crumbs!!!

Absolutely. Ra1th wants to get on Saul's case because "if it were Angel, everyone would say he is stupid." I think he is just mad that Burt was the one giving Angel orders in this episode, although Angel did manage to do the right thing and tell Kalani and Riley to get to the helicopter when they were entrapped in a hopeless situation. It shows growth in Angel's character, but HaveCrowBarWillTravel was spot on with Angel being in pure form inside the car.

Also, not being a super fan of any one character, I'll theorize the reason why people would get on Angel's case though is that he is quick to blame others and whingeing all the time about whose in charge. As Riley would say, "Does it matter, really!?"

**Zombiehead** · Jun 28th, 2011, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by KC

Think bigger: Attachment 815

Keep in mind this isn't exactly
Cain, but you get the idea...

Yes sir! I thought it was an extremely cool concept.

Originally Posted by Kn1ckerb0cker33

OOoo looks like you found the inspiration for "Cain Medical Center"/"Cain General Hospital"

Oh as for the Cain name, I would take a guess that it has something to do with Cain and Able (the bible story), perhaps something to do with altar sacrifices, or maybe Kc just thought it sounded cool.

I figured that too. Faith-based hospitals wouldn't name their facilities after the world's first murderer (based on their beliefs).

**smalls kenobi** · Jun 28th, 2011, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Kc

Think bigger: Attachment 815

Keep in mind this isn't exactly Cain, but you get the idea...

SWEET! That's the Hospital i was picturing in my head! good ol' LAC+USC Building, haha

**Grognaurd** · Jun 28th, 2011, 04:25 PM

Yup crow, I was not there, but I can just about guarantee there is at least one map I'm the big lobby. At that time, they were not even attacked. Call me pretty stupid for having to read a map to know were I am going. To loly gag and sight see and stumble about in a hot zone is bad.

2) Saul was listening to Burt on the Wakie talking, not the CB. Saul stated that he walked to the truck where he found Lizzie's stuff. He turned the radio off. If he turns it back on and heads down the 110 he should be able to contact the tower and Hospital.

3) there has been a lot of talk about hooking the sheets to an arrow. That will not work. But, here is something that would work. Tie a fishing line to the arrow and shoot it. Tie one end to the sheets and Burt or angel could pull it up. Yup, been fishing with bow and arrow.

Here is a link
http://www.cabelas.com/archery/bowfishing.shtml

4) "Randys" zombies. That is a behavior we have not seen before. Are they actually setting a siege? Is it a protective circle? I still believe we will find different factions of zombies, just like there are different factions of humans.

5) I think I saw this already, but it may have been buried. Checkout the hand of the character in this chapters artwork. Leftover from Burt's Bullet?

6). When I hear Burt recite this story, it sounds to me as if he is talking to someone who does not know their plan. "Like our scounts found a second..." or something like this. He also sounds like he is talking to someone close to Saul. Listen to his voice when he says little prick and nice shot, thanks for Breaking our stuff. He is biting his tongue. Lizzie, tardis, bricks and scratch? Wouldn't it be interesting to force members of the tower and mall have to work together? How far does it go before on side betrays the other?