Who's The Rat v2.0

[7oddisdead]

Back to page one...and still kalani....that smarmy @fgagsf

[Th3_T3ch]

At anybody thinks Scratch's comment of "We still have her", that comment is vague. Tar says afterword "No the one already there. No response?". Scratch says next "Not for a while". So the her could be anybody. 7oddisdead and zombiecupcake, thank you for opening your mind to the truth.

[7oddisdead]

/\Been saying kalani since before I joined here.
here's some more evidence

When hope came to the tower, we never heard kalani once mention anything of the situation. We know from what we are told that Kalani knew Samantha had a daughter named hope..and now she's in the same tower as him..so why no reaction? I know the helicopter search cannot totally pre-occupy all of his time

Skittles recognized him...while we do not know where skittles is from...based on this either skittles is not from the other tower or kalani isn't. And how could skittles know him and he not know skittles?...

We see his true colors just before he and burt leave for the hospital...while he didn't lie about he and angels experience with the big one, he did skew the story in such a way to serve his purpose..how many other times could he have done that

[Adventureless_Hero]

Alright, my dear friend lvmetndr pointed out a very interesting point in what could be another nail in Kelly's coffin. Going back to the end of 7-3 and the start of 8-1, we hear Scratch and Latch approach the Tower. Kelly was on guard when this occured and was supposedly asleep. When Angel bangs on the security room door he finds Kelly yawning and claiming that all she heard was his banging.

This could be a ruse. She may have written in her journal, to go along with the ploy, that she fell asleep while reading the book Peggs bought her. This could have been the moment, the first contact Kelly had with the Mallers; she could have contacted them via radio before thier approach to the building.

I thought it was a good theory worth mentioning.

[Grognaurd]

RE Kalani

Remember, things are really moving fast. Hope arrives in the AM. Later, Kalani is put in charge of the tower as the main characters go after the mallers. He is then tasked with helicopter Stuff. My guess he is teaching Pegs because Michael did not want her on guard duty. Very early the next morning (softly after Kelley's shift an I assume she got the graveyard shift) he is off to LAX. He goes back to the tower to pick up Angel and Riley and then to Cain's. That is not a lot of free time. I would also like to point out that RilLey seems really sober now. It was not like Kalani was best of friends with Samantha. He was only at the other tower a couple of days. My guess is there are more than 100 people there. They sent out a scavenging crew of 20.

Re Skittles. Skittle has to remember the face of the new guy. Kalani has to recognize skittles among 100+ people. I also do not think they would put Skittles in the welcoming committee.

Re big one. Michael is most likely describing Angel's version. Burt is recalling what he remembers of Kalani's version.

[Grognaurd]

So who is Burt talking to?

He is really repressing some anger with Saul, I could see him trying to tamp it down if he was talking to Tanya. Maybe Michael. Would he suppress it for people he does not know?

Second, he talks about how the other team was out looking for a copter as if the listener was not familiar with that.

[7oddisdead]

:P

Different ways of seeing the same story...in my mind it all makes sense. In yours,it seems completely ludicrous. I'm perfectly ok with that....

[Lexter]

I been thinking but I'm not sure, all I know is that it could be someone that has not been maned jet.

[Grognaurd]

Nah, not ridiculous, but someone has to stand up for us middle age fat guys

[Th3_T3ch]

Two things, Burt is most likely talking to Micheal, Tanya already made all the journals digital and no one is writing in them anymore, other than Micheal and Lizzy. The second thing is that the rat has to be someone who knew Angel and Hope would be in the guard room OR they planned it to be in the morning for some reason, leaving the scene of the crime?, and just ran into Hope and knew that she was blind. That narrows it down to :Steven, Kelly, Kalani, Riley, and Datu (nearly impossible). I leave Kalani on the list because we know he is headed downstairs when the alarm goes off, Datu is only on the list because there is plenty of time for him to run up stairs cut the line (he is the maintenance man and should know where just about everything is) kill pippin and give himself the time to flee by shooting the radio. I, personally, see that the rat is someone who would be out of the tower and shot the tower to try and give themselves an alibi.

So after going threw it again, I have a smaller more accurate list.

Kelly-(likely)
It is popular belief that Kelly was once in a trial with a Maller. What we do know about Kelly is that she was babysitting her nephew when the outbreak happened. Her niece was killed in the original outbreak. Tommy was killed in the War. Kelly was drunk at the party. Kelly was at the tower when Pippin was shot, she was also one of the first people to show up at the guard room. Kelly was the "specialist" for Micheal's interrogation of Pippin. Kelly had just gotten off of guard duty when Pippin was killed, she was also chatting it up with Pippin.
Speculation: If Kelly is the rat then she might have talked to him in code during her turn as guard. She might have been diplomatic when she told Micheal her opinion on Pippin's story.
Holes in the Theory: Kelly would have had to pass Riley on the way to kill Pippin. Kelly became devoted to the tower after Tommy's death.

Kalani-(possible)
Kalani was found in the Arena. What we know about Kalani is that he was at LAX. Kalani says he is from Hawaii and was rescued by the Other tower. Kalani was on guard duty the day of the party and the War. He knows how to fly a helicopter and a plane, not at the same time. He knows about helicopters. He had just left or was on his way to leaving the Tower when Pippin was killed.
Speculation: If Kalani's story is false, then he has a high probability of being a Maller. He SAYS he had been in the other tower only a few days before it was attacked and then he was at the tower two days before it was attacked. Kalani says he flew into LAX, that is awful close to the Strip Mall and I doubt that they would have missed a plane flying in the air toward them. Kalani, as far as we know, never talked to Pippin. It would have been advantaguous of him to shoot the radio after killing Pippin. Giving him enough time to leave the tower. It also took him and Datu an hour to get to LAX.
Holes in the Theory: Kalani actually knows helicopters. He isn't afraid of a fight, and he was a brown-noser to the leader.

Steven-(likely)
Steven has been a prick since we've been introduced to him. What we know about Steven is that he got Lizzy kicked out of the Tower. Steven also didn't want to do guard duty with Pippin in the room. Steven was sent to the roof when Pippin was killed. Michael says he doesn't trust him. Steven knows that Angel and Hope are in the guard room. Was on guard duty after Lewis was framed.
Speculation: Steven is an easy way out of a hard problem. Plot wise, it is easier for Kc to introduce a person that will become the rat then it is to work the rat into a character.
Holes in the Theory:... I haven't found any.

Datu-(nearly impossible)
Datu is the maintenance man. What we know of Datu is that he is Philippians, and loves Hope like a daughter. Datu was reportedly down in the motorpool when Pippin was shot.
Speculation: Datu was "sick" at the beginning of the party and was up and around during the fire.
Holes in the Theory: Datu was found in the Tower HOURS after the outbreak. He was in the US to get money for his family.

Riley-(not likely)
Riley is a pro archer, chef. What we know of Riley is that she is French, she had just gotten back from the Arena when the war had happened. She was drunk when Pippin first arrived, and was the only other person that was near the guard room when Pippin was killed.
Speculation: Riley was mostly sober at the hospital, which is only hours after the murder of Pippin. Riley has been really shady since the beginning.
Holes in the Theory: Riley was found on top of a flower shop hours after the outbreak. She has been loyal to the Tower since day one.

Red Shirt- (We all don't want this)
Everybody wants the rat to be one of the main characters. It is however possible that the rat is a red shirt.