Who's The Rat v2.0

**nikvoodoo** · May 31st, 2011, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by cPT.cAPSLOCK

Assuming the rat is the same one that shot Pippin and Hope, it can't be Kelly.
Pippin says "It- It's you!" near the end of 22-1 with a scared voice, while he just met Kelly before that and had a good time with her.

It must be someone who Pippin met before, and thus is probably related to the Mallers.

This is what i posted in the chapter discussion about how it could potentially be someone Pippin knew: http://zombiepodcast.com/forum/showt...ll=1#post17559

Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

Lets just imagine that Pippin was an informant/plant/mole/whatever seeking out the original rat to reestablish contact. Pippin knows he is seeking someone out. But he's never met this person and isn't sure who it may be.

All of a sudden while he's in the guard room, an alarm goes off, and a person enters the room holding a silenced pistol (which has to be out already because you don't hear any sound of a weapon being drawn). It becomes obvious to him, this is who he was supposed to be searching for ("It's you") but sadly it's too late and Pippin is toast.

In this instance Pippin could have met everyone and shook their hand in line and held a conversation with them. But if he wasn't sure who he was looking for it wouldn't make a difference if he had met them before or not. The "It's you" could be prompted by someone he's already met but has now revealed themselves as the Rat to him by coming in holding an assassins weapon.

**bequita** · May 31st, 2011, 03:37 PM

I wish I could change my vote on this poll.

**Grognaurd** · Jun 2nd, 2011, 06:38 AM

I am going to take another tact here. There is a big difference between action and intent. What do I mean. Suppose the rat was not acting out of malice. I have no evidence to show you what I mean. BUt, say...

Tommy's Uncle is with the Mallers. He speaks to them
Riley or Angel have a connection to the mallers. For the sake of argument, we will just say Scratch.

I do not remember hearing much about Riely at the party. Angel arrives late, but then I remember he says he is going to look for Riley. Riley is not around because she is talking to the mallers. Or, Angel does not look for Riley and goes and talks to the mallers.

Both of them are buzzed maybe more. They let it slip or casually mention the actions of the Hoarder. They have no food / Ammo and everybody is getting drunk.

Durai hears this and orders an assault that arrives a few hours later. The rat did not know the violence that would insue. Going back to the story line. Angel is puking his guts out. Is he that drunk? Maybe it is an oh shit what have I done moment...

Rat no longer speaks to the tower. A maller shows up (Pippin) and although they never ment to facilitate the attack. It happened. They figure there is no way to convince the tower that they did not do it, so the rat goes from being a Pawn to a Murderer to keep the secret.

If we want to take more blame from the rat, Maybe the person is not even talking to the mallers. They could have been someone that does not want the attention of the tower at this time. Maybe not talking to anybody and just blabbing on and no to see if anyone turns on a radio at that time. The mallers are monitoring all 1 -40 so will hear it on 18.

Which, by the way, is the most common choice. If you travel with truckers on the interstates, they are all on 18. It is the public domain FYI. If your heading South, truckers heading north have already been there. They can tell you if the law has a checkpoint. A speed trap. The scales are open. A nasty accident. Whatever. SO, if I wanted to find someone, I would choose 18. I would also talk for the sake of talking. The longer you talk the better the chances of intersecting with someone.

**Osiris** · Jun 2nd, 2011, 01:32 PM

Angel is the rat. At first, I'd thought it was Lizzy... but now, no. Angel.

**Th3_T3ch** · Jun 4th, 2011, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Osiris

Angel is the rat.

Your asking for trouble from Ra1th by saying that.

**GChild78** · Jun 5th, 2011, 01:01 PM

Sticking my flag on Pegs.

**gamergirllovesu** · Jun 9th, 2011, 03:07 AM

I really dont want it to be Riley but there is alot of evidence pointing her way until I heard Michael mention that the killer could be the traitor who had a change of heart and wanted to keep her identity secret and stay with the tower. once he said that Kelly came up immediately. at first kelly was doing all she could to disrupt the tower then after the war she did a complete 180 and became helpful so most likely she killed pippen after trying to convince him not to go through with the evil maller plan and being threatened by pippin to have her identity revealed.

**Kiwi of the Dead** · Jun 9th, 2011, 08:14 PM

I guess I don't really know if anyone's already said this, but here's my theory: Riley is the rat. She was the one that radioed the Mallers, and she's the one that "stole" the supplies. However, since the war, she's had a change of heart and has stopped contacting the Mallers. Pippin was sent as a replacement, who Riley then killed to prevent him from completing his mission. (She couldn't just expose him, because it'd raise too much suspicion.) She then destroyed the radio to prevent any mention of Pippin's death, because she knew the Mallers would be listening in. She then doused herself in alcohol to give herself an alibi.

Originally Posted by gamergirllovesu

I really dont want it to be Riley but there is alot of evidence pointing her way until I heard Michael mention that the killer could be the traitor who had a change of heart and wanted to keep her identity secret and stay with the tower. once he said that Kelly came up immediately. at first kelly was doing all she could to disrupt the tower then after the war she did a complete 180 and became helpful so most likely she killed pippen after trying to convince him not to go through with the evil maller plan and being threatened by pippin to have her identity revealed.

It's definitely possible, and the turnaround fits Kelly. I guess the only thing that's questionable is Pippin's reaction to the killer, but if she'd tried to talk him out of it then that might have something to do with it. It could just be the fact that she shows up with a gun, too.

**Grognaurd** · Jun 10th, 2011, 02:55 AM

Kiwi, Riley may be the rat, but she unlikely to be the thief. The stuff was most likely hidden while she was at the arena. If she did it before she left, Burt and Saul would probably have noticed before the rescue mission

**Kiwi of the Dead** · Jun 10th, 2011, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche

Kiwi, Riley may be the rat, but she unlikely to be the thief. The stuff was most likely hidden while she was at the arena. If she did it before she left, Burt and Saul would probably have noticed before the rescue mission

D'oh, I forgot about her trip to the arena. That means the thief is either Bill (which is kind of implied) or maybe a different rat.