Chapter 22- "Our Doubts Are Traitors" part 3

[nikvoodoo]

Yes, I think, in many ways, we're trying to say the same thing. I think my original point was that, if we resolve all that Ground Zero can offer, it seems to minimize the importance of Ground Zero. Thus, introducing Ground Zero could have an implication on the helicopter/Fort Irwin plot because Fort Irwin is so far away from Ground Zero. However, a Ground Zero storyline that gives a couple answers but leaves a lot unanswered allows GZ to maintain its importance while the Tower crew makes their way to Fort Irwin.

We do seem to be saying the same thing, just with different words.

Yeah, I would never imagine that we would resolve everything that Ground Zero has to offer in one chapter. That...well quite honestly that would be the suck.

[Heyyouinthebushes]

Glad to see some g z talk. Our who's the rat talk was getting old. So here's a thought...
how about a "new world order" type organization..(I know its cheezy, but best way to describe it) spreads themselves out across the globe with of coarse Ink as the leader....maybe. And releases a "catalyst " a simple biological weapon that can lie dormant for x amount of time ... Until something triggers it... Such as an infrasonic sound wave. Wave triggers bioweapon, bioweapon becomes active in host blood and spreads.... And mutates people into whatever there biological makeup was previous to said incident. Smarts get smarter ...on roids? ...now a giant....i dunno that's just how i would write it

Right now, I'm largely with you. It does seem to be a well planned and organized event. My concern with a 'new world order' organization is that they tend to be covert government organizations, and 'getting to the bottom' of what caused all this would involve exploring the political conspiracy of said organization. I would rather it be an Umbrella Corporation style group that has extensive power but is less 'secret political conspiracy'.

[7oddisdead]

See that's why I was hesitant to use that phrase...i don't like the connotations that come with it either

[Walrusgus]

Downloaded and ready to go.

[Grognaurd]

Ground Zero

Some more obscure facts

Unlikely to be an accident, because it appears to be happening in several US cities. Internationally is a wild card. That subject was truncated on the TiVo.
The first zombies observed by Michael were putportedly to be covered in scars. If the description is accurate that implies old wounds.
Kalani said the other tower found a lot of strange things in Ground Zero. I have to review, but this could be strange zombies or items.
Scratch has a "weapon" that Latch found in a safe.

[mastafigz]

I think that the outbreak started airborne, and the survivors are people who are immune to the virus while it's airborne. Although the theory isn't air tight, it does play into many things:

1. Pegs and Victor got sick, maybe the virus didn't turn them into zombies, because they were immune to the airborne toxin, but the way it lingered in the air lead to them getting sick and throwing up.

2. It would also explain the explosions that happenned in the first chapters. Something was detonated which released the toxin, possibly a lab or a planned airborne attack.
-This does lead to multiple possibilities on an attack. It could be a terrorist attack, which would be an interesting spin on the series.
-Genocide: This is a longshot, but what if the toxins were being used to be rid of dangerous criminals, (possibly death row inmates), it was thought that there were riots, what if the reason that the toxins were released was the result of a riot in the prison?

I'm just thinking outloud, what do you guys think?

[MrScott101]

What if they do get to the military base and find that there is smart ones? Military grade zombies that can shoot guns??? eh eh

Look at the map and see distance from ground zero to the arena, I don't think it's close enough for the explosion to have that effect. I think ground zero has just had it there since day one. Plus I remember earlier episode/s talking about things getting worse the closer you get to ground zero (skittles maybe)?

[Grognaurd]

What are the typical wind patterns in LA? Coming in off the ocean headed East? The reason I ask is that if the causitive agent was airborn, I would expect to see a Plume. It would be a foci that spreads outwards ever dispersing in the wind. If the wind is headed south, envision a water droplet. It elongates before it "breaks". The plumage would be similar to that vision. Data collected by the tower was described as a "ripple" spreading from ground zero at about the same rate in every direction.

It could be there was no wind. Or, it could be a bunch of zombies radiating outwards.

[Bulldog711]

A couple of things;

a) When is the Season Finale?

b) I am interested to see/figure out where the timelines will intersect once we return to the arena and will KC string us along with Saul arriving 10 mins too late over and over as Lizzy goes searching for Saul?

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

I'm gonna troll you saul fans and have some fun. Saul is so dumb. Oh you're gonna go get in your car and run off and find lizzie? good luck, LA is one of the biggest cities in the world. You just got up and running after being bed ridden and half dead for the last month and now you're heavily medicated and running around abandoned LA trying to find one person oh and dont forget ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE you're stupid saul. oh and dumb.

hehehe... Dun Dunn Dunn!
> Crowbar enters room.

Hey Ra1th, You my man are absofrigglutely right. He was dumb to run off without any help. He's young, brash and hot headed BUT! Saul's a TRUE trooper. He's going to go out guns blazing and not whine about being tired or hurt like a certain someone else. He's sucking it up like MAN, plus he's going to save his woman come hell or high water.
I'm pretty sure if it comes down to him having to lob a few molotovs he wouldn't have to worry about throwing like a girl either. ROFL!
Saul is hardly dumb! He's highly trained and non formally educated in medicine and combat life saving through his moms, The USA and life. His decision is the only stupid thing, but acts of courage ALWAYS start out looking stupid.