Who's The Rat v2.0

[nikvoodoo]

Kalani was in a car with Datu after the shooting happened. The radio wasn't working when Burt called in, giving us a time connection to when the shooting happened because I doubt it would take Angel that long to realize that the break in was a distraction and find Pippen and (Possibly) Hope dead. It just doesn't fit in with the time.

Now hang on....7odd is giving us a chance to revive both our theories of the rat...maybe we should hear him out!

We do know Kc fudges the timelines often. It would depend on where in their trip to LAX Kalani and Datu are. I'd imagine they are not at the half way point yet to suggest turning around to go back. So....who knows. We both could still have horses in this race....though....it really is looking bleak for us.

[7oddisdead]

/\this.... I also feel the suspicion shifting away. I'm just fleshing out ideas. There's so many possibilities that it's hard to flesh out all of them.

Kalani is a mauler, never flew into lax at all. Just happened to see the hawiian airlines plane and made up the story. Was originally a plant At The other tower

Riley shot pippen. Not a rat or a traitor, but upset, drunk and looking for revenge

Pegs. Again not rat/traitor but paranoid of pippin being sent to kill her and just got to him first. The trip to the colony proved see isn't as hesitant with guns anymore. And see probably does have access to michaels stuff(silenced pistol)

Steven. Could be. But that's just to easy

[Kunja]

All things considered and starting my 3rd listen from the start...
I know I'm going out on a limb here... but I'm linking all the foul happenings in the tower to one person... The stealing of the food and ammo, ratting out to the mallers, and the shooting of Pippin and Hope...

I think it's Pegs because she's mental... she didn't have an alibi for when the stuff was stolen (she said she was on the roof)... the party was HER idea... and Pegs and Kelly was the only main characters in the tower present for all 3 events... and like I said in my post about Pegs being mental... it would make a great twist and awesome drama between her and Michael!!!
PEGS I'm Calling You OUT!!!! and your "Mr Wiskers" voice isn't going to save you either!

[Drew227598]

Some of this makes me think back to Burt's story about back in his day, when you got in trouble with the law you had two choices, prison or the army. Was this for-shadowing that one of the soldiers may have been in prison at one point?

They used to do that back when Burt was in the Marines due because they needed bodies to fill positions, however now they no longer do that because the Military as a whole is a lot more technologically advance and you can't have people just filling a position. Today’s military is a lot different than the Vietnam area military Burt saw action in, That is partly why there is no draft now a days. Then again this is just a story and anything goes, right?

[nikvoodoo]

All things considered and starting my 3rd listen from the start...
I know I'm going out on a limb here... but I'm linking all the foul happenings in the tower to one person... The stealing of the food and ammo, ratting out to the mallers, and the shooting of Pippin and Hope...

I think it's Pegs because she's mental... she didn't have an alibi for when the stuff was stolen (she said she was on the roof)... the party was HER idea... and Pegs and Kelly was the only main characters in the tower present for all 3 events... and like I said in my post about Pegs being mental... it would make a great twist and awesome drama between her and Michael!!!
PEGS I'm Calling You OUT!!!! and your "Mr Wiskers" voice isn't going to save you either!

What about the shots fired that started the war? Pegs couldn't have done that, she was in the guard room on the radio with Durai

[Kunja]

What about the shots fired that started the war? Pegs couldn't have done that, she was in the guard room on the radio with Durai

100% correct...
I haven't put much though into the shooter... even though I just listened to The War today... but I agree Pegs was not the shooter... I will guess it was just a drunk, trigger happy no-name from the party...
I may listen to R&R and the War again... I did find some of Pegs dialogue with Michael was odd... but then again, I'm trying to sniff her out... so I may be smashing my theory into the story...
but that's my theory and I'm sticking to it!

[nikvoodoo]

100% correct...
I haven't put much though into the shooter... even though I just listened to The War today... but I agree Pegs was not the shooter... I will guess it was just a drunk, trigger happy no-name from the party...
I may listen to R&R and the War again... I did find some of Pegs dialogue with Michael was odd... but then again, I'm trying to sniff her out... so I may be smashing my theory into the story...
but that's my theory and I'm sticking to it!

Just posing the question It's not to say you aren't wrong at all. There is the theory that there are two rats. Pegs could be one of them if that's true. Not to mention, the Rat and the Assassin don't necessarily have to be the same person

[Kunja]

Just posing the question It's not to say you aren't wrong at all. There is the theory that there are two rats. Pegs could be one of them if that's true. Not to mention, the Rat and the Assassin don't necessarily have to be the same person

True... But like good ole Martin Luther... I can not recant unless convinced by sacred scripture... if anything, i'm stubborn :P

[Th3_T3ch]

Now hang on....7odd is giving us a chance to revive both our theories of the rat...maybe we should hear him out!

We do know Kc fudges the timelines often. It would depend on where in their trip to LAX Kalani and Datu are. I'd imagine they are not at the half way point yet to suggest turning around to go back. So....who knows. We both could still have horses in this race....though....it really is looking bleak for us.

Yes, but do you think Kalani, the fat Hawaiian, could run up FIVE floors of steps, set a diversion, bust into the guard room, kill pippen and possibly hope, THEN run all the way back downstairs to Datu without being out of breath? We've already seen that Kalani couldn't even run a block without being winded.
Also I'm pretty sure your Datu theory is impossible now because do you really see him shooting Samantha's daughter?

[Th3_T3ch]

Something else has become relevant. If the shooter did infact use the silenced pistol they would have had to have gotten it while everybody was out at the mall. Saul and Burt have been out in the field for two, almost three days. Saul and Burt would have had to gotten the silenced pistol at some point, but then the rat/shooter had to come in, while in the tower, and steal it before they left.