Who's The Rat v2.0

[armyzombiefan]

Is this still an issue? I assumed that when Tardust mentioned that they had been monitoring the calls the Tower had been making that there wasn't a rat inside the Tower but all the info the Mallers had was based on intercepting the signals of the low tech devices the tower was using for communication.

I agree this is a strong possibility. It's just human nature to want to blame someone. I would be very happy if your theory is the right one!!!!!!

[Th3_T3ch]

Which brings me to Kalani. Basically, when Kalani first entered the tower he seemed very hesitant to trust Michael and co and I think that if he had access to the radio he would very likely want to reach out to other survivors to see if anyone was out there he could go join instead and then all the mallers would have to do is convince him that they would have better leadership and that would be all she wrote. Kalani proved in the arena that the only thing he cares about is his survival, not that I can blame him, while also proving that he was very quick thinking on his feet and he may have decided in a brief moment that the mallers leadership would give him a better chance of survival. I also, if my memory of the scene is correct, don't remember hearing him during the party scene which would have been the perfect time for him to be on the radio.

To save Nik the time, Kalani was a the party, sober and dancing with Kelly. What is also mentioned is that Kalani had guard duty before the party started, giving him ample time to radio the mallers. If you couldn't tell I believe Kalani to be not only the rat, but also a maller.

[Nevermatter]

Some of this makes me think back to Burt's story about back in his day, when you got in trouble with the law you had two choices, prison or the army. Was this for-shadowing that one of the soldiers may have been in prison at one point?

[nikvoodoo]

Some of this makes me think back to Burt's story about back in his day, when you got in trouble with the law you had two choices, prison or the army. Was this for-shadowing that one of the soldiers may have been in prison at one point?

it's backshadowing? At the same point you mention this quote, Saul mentions he was in jail. So we know one of them already has a criminal record.

[WestonWisdom]

it's backshadowing? At the same point you mention this quote, Saul mentions he was in jail. So we know one of them already has a criminal record.

It cannot possibly be Saul or Burt now, but I won't be changing my vote.

[Th3_T3ch]

So since my Kalani theory is out I must examine all the evidence and guess again. Kalani, Burt, Datu, Angel, Michael, Saul, Lizzy, and Pegs are out. Steven, Riley, Victor, and Kelly are still options. I'm thinking Steven, just because of Steven's most recent opinion. I also don't believe Riley, Victor or Kelly could be it because of Riley's mind set, Victor's loyalty, and Kelly's chat with Pippen.

[GodofInsanity]

I like the Steven idea too, especially with his not wanting to be around or do anything near Pippen. That could be something to throw us off the scent though. I agree, Burt, Saul, Kalani, and Datu are out cause they were gone. Angel cause he was tricked out of the room. Micheal cause that just wouldnt make sense in my minds eye. Lizzie for obvious reasons. I will count Victor out cause he wasn't around when the Mallers attacked. No to Pegs cause I do not think she could be that efficient with the silenced shots. it sounded like 2 to the chest and one to finish him off. I won't take Riley off the list, but I think it has moved away from Kelly cause Pippen showed new recognition it seemed when the shooter entered.
So though Riley is not off the list I feel it is Steven as well

[Mordekii]

With Pippin admitting he was from the mallers camp its only logical that the person with the most desire to see him expire would be the rat. Assuming that there is a mole, sadly i still haven't come to terms that there is one. I can agree that someone with skill is the one that shot him. Also I have been thinking alot about what happened with the silenced pistol. Earlier in the episode when trying to shoot a zombie Burt asks for it and Saul cant find it. So someone took it, perhaps who ever helped them pack? I am starting to think its Kelly. I bet she was "chatting" up Pippin in order to make her suspicion decrease. Also she could have got info from him that could lead others to her in their 6 hours together. Thats my opinion now, sure to change with just one episode.... and thats exactly why I love this Podcast. Great story telling.

[7oddisdead]

I brought this up over in the chapter discussion, but why have we eliminated kalani from suspicion? Could he not have shot pippin, ran down to the car, and hauled ass outta there? Jus because we got the conversation between he and Burt first, that doesn't mean it happened first. Nothing about kalani seems to add up to me...

[Th3_T3ch]

I brought this up over in the chapter discussion, but why have we eliminated kalani from suspicion? Could he not have shot pippin, ran down to the car, and hauled ass outta there? Jus because we got the conversation between he and Burt first, that doesn't mean it happened first. Nothing about kalani seems to add up to me...

Kalani was in a car with Datu after the shooting happened. The radio wasn't working when Burt called in, giving us a time connection to when the shooting happened because I doubt it would take Angel that long to realize that the break in was a distraction and find Pippen and (Possibly) Hope dead. It just doesn't fit in with the time.