Who's The Rat v2.0

[COsurvivor]

Who knows, but you realize we only introduced to Kelly and Timmy for the "New Arrivals"?

So who knows what and who they let in... Not like they can do a background check on anyone.

[justice]

i think it was kelly because her and tommy were related and when they asked tommy if anyone had touched the radio maybe he was lying for kelly his aunt and after tommy was dead she felt guilty

[WestonWisdom]

Without a doubt, it's Angel, heres why:

He had the time, he was late to the party, the radio was set to the correct channel already,it's entirely possible he used the Tommy-Burt switchover as a chance to send the message, either that or he may have been on duty earlier, and nobody would have been around to check up on him because they were preparing for the party, so Angel would have been all alone to send the message.

Angel-Scratch appear to have link, I think Angel may have been involved in a minor(but high profile) crime, which led to Scratch and Angel becoming either involved in a romantic way or just became associates. This would also explain why Datu recognised him in Chapter 1, perhaps he was on T.V due to his crime?

He had a motive, always a great believer in the rank system(Ex. Can't we just wait for the commander?), Angel is frustrated at not being respected(Mentioned in a conversation between him and Saul) and therefore decided to do something about it, Call the maulers.

I also want to mention a few things that I feel relieve Kelly and Datu of guilt.

Kelly, despite being a massive bitch(Read:Wanting to survive more than make friends) in the earlier chapters, Wouldn't have risked Tommy's and her's life in the hands of convicts, even if the supposed Lawyer-Convict connection existed.

Datu, everybody loves Datu, always willing to help, always cheerful, until Purgatory, where the woman he loves is torn to shreds, after that, he changes, miserable, defeatist and physically incapable(for a few chapters). Datu's change of mood comes too late game for him to be the Rat, besides, he could barely get out of bed during the events of Ch.11 and 12, he wouldn't have been put on guard duty, so somebody would have seen him make the call.

[Wicked Sid]

Datu recognized him due to his girlfriend living in the apartment building where he worked and lived.
Also, if Scratch and Angel had been romantically involved I'm pretty sure they'd better recognize each other. Additionally, why would Angel contact the Mallers to regain the military hierarchy?

[WestonWisdom]

Datu recognized him due to his girlfriend living in the apartment building where he worked and lived.
Also, if Scratch and Angel had been romantically involved I'm pretty sure they'd better recognize each other. Additionally, why would Angel contact the Mallers to regain the military hierarchy?

If that was the case, angel wouldn't have corrected him right after Datu said he recognised him.

I didn't mean it to come across as Angel contacted the mallers to regain the hierarchy, the point I am trying to make is that a combination of frustration and previous involvement with Scratch led to him contacting the Mallers.

[Ra1th]

Without a doubt, it's Angel, heres why:

He had the time, he was late to the party, the radio was set to the correct channel already,it's entirely possible he used the Tommy-Burt switchover as a chance to send the message, either that or he may have been on duty earlier, and nobody would have been around to check up on him because they were preparing for the party, so Angel would have been all alone to send the message.

Angel-Scratch appear to have link, I think Angel may have been involved in a minor(but high profile) crime, which led to Scratch and Angel becoming either involved in a romantic way or just became associates. This would also explain why Datu recognised him in Chapter 1, perhaps he was on T.V due to his crime?

He had a motive, always a great believer in the rank system(Ex. Can't we just wait for the commander?), Angel is frustrated at not being respected(Mentioned in a conversation between him and Saul) and therefore decided to do something about it, Call the maulers.

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Here’s where you’re dead wrong. Angel lacks motive. Angel does believe in the rank system, AS DOES EVERYONE ELSE IN THE MILITARY. At the time Angel firmly believed that the situation was not as dire as Michael and saul made it out to be so he figured there was no harm in waiting for the commander. After the tower had been established and by chapter 5, Angel had accepted Michael as his commander, and leader of the tower. He had also taken the second in command position. How does calling the mallers help him take command? If the mallers came in he’d lose his position as it is, as well as his FRIENDS, he was best friends with Michael and saul by the time the war had come about.

As to his whereabouts during the party. First he was drinking, then he went to dance with Riley and then he was off puking because he drank too much, after the alarm had been tripped he ran down to the guard room.

Connection with Scratch? It’s too big a jump to even assume that there is a romantic connection between the two. Maybe they’d met once in a past life, but nothing more than that can be PROVED. Not without a LOT more evidence. All we know is that Scratch feels as though she remembers Angel, and Angel might remember scratch. Its highly unlikely they had a romantic relationship because Scratch and Angel would have recognized each other immediately. It wouldn’t have been the reaction that actually occurred which is. Scratch “you seem familiar” Angel “I don’t know what your talking about”.

Also you cant even prove that angel had been involved in a crime at all. All that we know is that there POSSIBLY a link between scratch and angel. THAT’S IT. Nothing more, nothing less. Any thing based on this link is pure speculation.

The reason datu knew angel when they first came to the tower? Because his girlfriend cindy lived at the tower, he used to visit her, Datu had seen him. End of story

And here’s the usual excerpt I send whenever anyone accuses angel of being the rat.

Angel Tunudo -

Angel is another intelligent character capable enough to be the mole. However it is unlikely that Angel was behind it. At the time, Angel was Michael’s second in command. He was behind the tactical aspects of the missions, and the overall well being of the tower. He was making headway with Riley, maybe it would lead to a relationship. He was best friends with Saul and Michael. Basically, life was good for Angel. I have heard theories that maybe Angel wanted Michael’s spot as top dog of the tower, there are two problem s with this theory. First of all, calling the Mallers does not help him get that spot. If the Mallers took over the tower, then it is far more likely that he’d lose his position as second in command, if his friends found out, he’d lose them too. Second, there is absolutely no evidence that Angel wanted command, he attempted to take power after Michael quit after the war, but quickly handed power over to Burt. Angel looks up to Michael, and often turns to him for judgment and advice, he wouldn’t attempt to usurp power.

Chance of Angel being the traitor: Next to 0

[Ra1th]

If that was the case, angel wouldn't have corrected him right after Datu said he recognised him.

I didn't mean it to come across as Angel contacted the mallers to regain the hierarchy, the point I am trying to make is that a combination of frustration and previous involvement with Scratch led to him contacting the Mallers.

It's an assumption, and its also widely accepted as the reason Datu recognized him. There is no other evidence for any other theory as to why Datu recognized him.

Angel was no longer frustrated with the chain of command, by about chapter 5 or 6. By then he'd accepted his role as second in command, and Michael as leader of the tower. You'd be hard pressed to find any evidence of him showing frustration with the chain of command after chapter 5

[WestonWisdom]

It's an assumption, and its also widely accepted as the reason Datu recognized him. There is no other evidence for any other theory as to why Datu recognized him.

Angel was no longer frustrated with the chain of command, by about chapter 5 or 6. By then he'd accepted his role as second in command, and Michael as leader of the tower. You'd be hard pressed to find any evidence of him showing frustration with the chain of command after chapter 5

Shrugging it off once, a mistake, shrugging it off twice, with Datu and Scratch,He is trying to avoid recognition, even if he isn't the rat, Angel has a secret.

[Ra1th]

Shrugging it off once, a mistake, shrugging it off twice, with Datu and Scratch,He is trying to avoid recognition, even if he isn't the rat, Angel has a secret.

Then you can make the assumption that he has a secret! that's acceptable, NOT that he's the rat!

[WestonWisdom]

Here’s where you’re dead wrong. Angel lacks motive. Angel does believe in the rank system, AS DOES EVERYONE ELSE IN THE MILITARY. At the time Angel firmly believed that the situation was not as dire as Michael and saul made it out to be so he figured there was no harm in waiting for the commander. After the tower had been established and by chapter 5, Angel had accepted Michael as his commander, and leader of the tower. He had also taken the second in command position. How does calling the mallers help him take command? If the mallers came in he’d lose his position as it is, as well as his FRIENDS, he was best friends with Michael and saul by the time the war had come about.

As to his whereabouts during the party. First he was drinking, then he went to dance with Riley and then he was off puking because he drank too much, after the alarm had been tripped he ran down to the guard room.

Connection with Scratch? It’s too big a jump to even assume that there is a romantic connection between the two. Maybe they’d met once in a past life, but nothing more than that can be PROVED. Not without a LOT more evidence. All we know is that Scratch feels as though she remembers Angel, and Angel might remember scratch. Its highly unlikely they had a romantic relationship because Scratch and Angel would have recognized each other immediately. It wouldn’t have been the reaction that actually occurred which is. Scratch “you seem familiar� Angel “I don’t know what your talking about�.

Also you cant even prove that angel had been involved in a crime at all. All that we know is that there POSSIBLY a link between scratch and angel. THAT’S IT. Nothing more, nothing less. Any thing based on this link is pure speculation.

The reason datu knew angel when they first came to the tower? Because his girlfriend cindy lived at the tower, he used to visit her, Datu had seen him. End of story

And here’s the usual excerpt I send whenever anyone accuses angel of being the rat.

Angel Tunudo -

Angel is another intelligent character capable enough to be the mole. However it is unlikely that Angel was behind it. At the time, Angel was Michael’s second in command. He was behind the tactical aspects of the missions, and the overall well being of the tower. He was making headway with Riley, maybe it would lead to a relationship. He was best friends with Saul and Michael. Basically, life was good for Angel. I have heard theories that maybe Angel wanted Michael’s spot as top dog of the tower, there are two problem s with this theory. First of all, calling the Mallers does not help him get that spot. If the Mallers took over the tower, then it is far more likely that he’d lose his position as second in command, if his friends found out, he’d lose them too. Second, there is absolutely no evidence that Angel wanted command, he attempted to take power after Michael quit after the war, but quickly handed power over to Burt. Angel looks up to Michael, and often turns to him for judgment and advice, he wouldn’t attempt to usurp power.

Chance of Angel being the traitor: Next to 0

Saying Angel has accepted Michael as the leader of the tower by chapter 5, as late as chapter 20, Angel seems disgruntled at not being considered for the position.

You seem to have missed the point when I mentioned his appearance at the party, he was late to the party, he could have done it while everyone else was at the party.

Perhaps the Scratch-Angel link is too far of a jump, but this is a theory section, also, Angel doesn't want to shout Datu when he first claims to recognise him, but he wants to shoot Scratch as soon as he sees her