Who's The Rat v2.0

[Adventureless_Hero]

"We still ahve her" could mean she is still on their side. Sort of a coded way of speaking. Like you said, like she hasn't turned to the other side yet.

Oh, so perhaps Kells is still on thier side, despite being as bad ass as she is now. So maybe when Tard asked about "the one already there" he meant somebody originally at the Tower. Somone like Bill! So maybe Bill, Kelly, and now Pippin are moles to the Tower!

Wow, it seems like a real stretch, but some bits of the information make sense. Hell, all this theorizing hurts knowing that the show won't confirm or deny anything for a while.

[Arkum]

This long break is only gonna lead to me coming up with more and more hairbrain theories.

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

This long break is only gonna lead to me coming up with more and more hairbrain theories.

I have now passed the torch. Take it and run.. run far!

[Arkum]

What if Lizzie's "oh, no" was because the Mallers have the reanimated zombie version of her boyfriend. He's their new "pet".

[Onslaught]

I'm not 100% sure who the rat is, but I do 100% think that it wasn't Bill who took the ammo. It was just hidden there as the best place to hide it or to set him up.

Its possible, but the only other person with the key was Datu and I don't think he would have done that. And actually Bill was out for a while, so someone could have easily found the key and moved all of the stuff while the main characters at the tower were gone. So its a possibility that someone did frame Bill, but then why would he have apologized. Alot of people on another thread argued he apologized for taking the guns. But if he didn't take the guns he would have no other reason to apologize then if he was the rat.

[Zombiehead]

But if he didn't take the guns he would have no other reason to apologize then if he was the rat.

He stole food.

This long break is only gonna lead to me coming up with more and more hairbrain theories.

I know what you mean. Sooner or later I'm going to lose my mind and start smearing a bunch of unfounded theories all over this board. Might get messy.

[Adventureless_Hero]

I'm going to lock this in as my final answer so that if I stray someone can whack me over the head with a shovel...or crowbar. Okay, so I strongly feel that at one time Kelly was the main rat, the one who hopped on the CB and gave all the information away to the Mallers. She was quite drunk at the party which throws me off a bit, but for the most part I feel she called the pricks just before Tommy took up his shift. Being a lawyer I feel she may have known some of these criminals at Eastern Bay. I do believe that Bill was 100% responsible for hiding the guns. If Kelly had any hand in it, say for the purpose of hoarding it for the Mallers arrival, she would have quickly revealed the cache's location the moment Tommy died and the building set on fire. Her nephew's death was her turning point. She stoicly watched over Saul while the people she had once hated fought not for their own survival but for the good of the whole tower.

Kelly, I love you but my vote went to you. You are a rat, but not the kind that abandons a sinking ship.

[GChild78]

If someone wants to go back and see who was pushing for a party, or for pushing farther on the boose to further weaken the tower's defenders that may also provide some support.

It was this kind of thinking that made me almost certain that Pegs was the traitor. Some of the conversation during the party between her and Bill was fishy. For example, when he asks for her name and she replies, "Pegs. You already know this." Why would he know this? He never leaves his room. Then I thought, well he did get sick and someone had to look after him, right? But I think Riley was in charge of that. Then there was the part where she pushed Michael to drink. I was thinking the same thing you were...but in the end it would make no sense because the rat knew that they had no ammo. Besides, I think she wanted Michael to get a little tipsy cause of her plan to express her feelings towards him.

On another note, I don't know if this has been mentioned before but, is it possible that the Mallers got a hold of the radio that Saul was using when he followed Scratch and Latch. I believe he dropped it when they began to shoot at him, right? Could they have contacted the tower by looking at the channel that radio was set to?

[nikvoodoo]

It was this kind of thinking that made me almost certain that Pegs was the traitor. Some of the conversation during the party between her and Bill was fishy. For example, when he asks for her name and she replies, "Pegs. You already know this." Why would he know this? He never leaves his room. Then I thought, well he did get sick and someone had to look after him, right? But I think Riley was in charge of that. Then there was the part where she pushed Michael to drink. I was thinking the same thing you were...but in the end it would make no sense because the rat knew that they had no ammo. Besides, I think she wanted Michael to get a little tipsy cause of her plan to express her feelings towards him.

On another note, I don't know if this has been mentioned before but, is it possible that the Mallers got a hold of the radio that Saul was using when he followed Scratch and Latch. I believe he dropped it when they began to shoot at him, right? Could they have contacted the tower by looking at the channel that radio was set to?

The simple reason why Bill would know who Pegs was: She was in charge of the garden hence in charge of his cucumbers.

The radio Saul was using was set to 23, not 18. So even if they had found the radio, it would have been set to the wrong channel. I don't think it was specified what happened to Saul's radio, but I think it would make sense he would leave it behind.

[GChild78]

The simple reason why Bill would know who Pegs was: She was in charge of the garden hence in charge of his cucumbers.

The radio Saul was using was set to 23, not 18. So even if they had found the radio, it would have been set to the wrong channel. I don't think it was specified what happened to Saul's radio, but I think it would make sense he would leave it behind.

Right, Nik...which is why I no longer believe she's the rat.

What I meant with the radio was that maybe they used that channel to contact the tower before they showed up. 23 was the channel they had agreed to use with Saul. There was no reason for them to use other channels since they had just acquired the radio. 18 was suggested by the mallers...obviously the channel used by the rat. Or maybe suggested so no one would suspect the existence of a traitor.