Quote Originally Posted by Connie Killjoy View Post
I have been listening to this podcast since the last part of season 1, I suggest it to my friends, look forward to it every week, and also listen to We're Not Dead.

I am incredibly, incredibly disappointed with the latest episode. The "character development" in part 3 of family ties involves mostly homophobic and women hating jokes, along with a seriously uncomfortable section around CJ's nudity. It's never that I have never been bothered by subtext, but I haven't found myself enraged, either.

There have always been stereotypes poking their heads out within this podcast, and they have been fairly low-level and not overtly offensive. (Except for those awful commercials for Chapter 30, and one of the most sinister characters, Gatekeeper, being openly homosexual.) But THIS was by far the least listenable episode of the podcast, and I can't think of any reason for the dialog contained other than FILLER. If suddenly down the line it matters that Saul and Victor are not only homophobic, but also hate/distrust women, then maybe I'll feel differently, but I highly doubt it.

These repeated themes reinforce that this is an issue with the creater, and not "plot/character development."

Earth to Casey: You might have people other than (white) straight men listening to this podcast, and the dialog can affect listeners who aren't just typical dude-bros (even if the majority of feedback you get on forums would suggest that is the case.) Attitudes like the ones your characters are reflecting are outdated and unneccessary for your plotline.

If your response to this is "it's part of their character" maybe you could take a serious look at what relying on base insults centered around gender and sexual orientation says about your ability to write and carry a plot, and how a confident female or homosexual character might confront them within the story. A punch hard enough to knock them out for a few hours might suffice, but I think in a situation like the one they find themselves in I would like to see more severe consequences.

Don't worry, I've got my flame-retardent suit on for what I'm sure will be a ridiculous series of responses to this post.
fuck it..this pissed me off.

When the third season began..saul and Vic were not exactly friends. Really, they wanted nothing to do with each other..and now what, three months later...they're making what you might call "dude-bro" humor. Now, I'm a working guy..just a normal dude-bro myself...but this particular episode showed me just how close Saul and Vic have grown...most guys will not joke around about things like they did unless that person is a good, good friend...an acquaintance or somebody you don't know that well will react in ways similar to that wall of text you put ^up there.. So I for one found the "sophomoric" humor in this episode to be quite effective...it showed the level of trust Saul and Vic truly put with each other..

And KC...good on you for writing it that way, too many people pull punches when it comes to writing for just this reason..thank god there's still some manly writers around. Rant/