Chapter 22- "Our Doubts Are Traitors" part 2

[nikvoodoo]

actually i hated it. I knew who the pilot would be from the start, but it woulda been nice if it came as a surprise

You just disagree because it's like rule #10 of the forum that you and I aren't allowed to agree on anything.

I'm ok with this being a known quantity vs. The rat. If we all knew for a fact who the rat was and we were just waiting for the tower to figure it out it could be a really painful thing to listen through. If it was obvious who the rat was and Kc was still trying to keep it a secret it would become annoying. That's obviously not the case, nor do I think Kc would have painted himself into that corner because he's a ridiculously talented storyteller.

This is minor enough that I'm ok having figured it out since "over the airwaves."

[Dameon1213]

I love you voodoo XD

[Th3_T3ch]

Killing hope would have served no purpose, so there is that. The Rat could be Kelly, but thats not likely because Pippin and her were chatting it up for six hours. Kalani, thank Kc, is still a small possibility for rat-atude; he could have cut the wire, killed Pippin then gone down to the truck with Datu, but as I said not likely. Victor should have been ruled out simply because of his cologne problem. Lewis could be the rat. Oh, and for all those who say we know nothing about Kalani: we do, he is a pilot from Hawaii that has killed TWO behemoths and was at the other tower. I use to not believe his story too, but this episode has shown that he knows his stuff.

[Kn1ckerb0cker33]

Killing hope would have served no purpose, so there is that. The Rat could be Kelly, but thats not likely because Pippin and her were chatting it up for six hours. Kalani, thank Kc, is still a small possibility for rat-atude; he could have cut the wire, killed Pippin then gone down to the truck with Datu, but as I said not likely. Victor should have been ruled out simply because of his cologne problem. Lewis could be the rat. Oh, and for all those who say we know nothing about Kalani: we do, he is a pilot from Hawaii that has killed TWO behemoths and was at the other tower. I use to not believe his story too, but this episode has shown that he knows his stuff.

6:20 - 6:26/21:19 [Angel] - "Datu says he and Kalani were together the whole time they left before anything happened."

That might cut out any possibility of Kalani being the assassin (but as you said before, it's probably not him.)

I find it odd that after being questioned about smelling alcohol that Hope didn't mention anything about smelling cologne which means that she either didn't smell cologne or she can't remember because of the stressful situation. Drugging Hope however doesn't seem like the best idea at this time though since she is now a sitting duck and the assassin still has the silenced pistol.

Also the Steven theory seems to be falling through (at least being the assassin) since he wasn't mentioned at all and everyone else who wasn't mentioned had alibis.

[Kn1ckerb0cker33]

Listening to episode again, they now have digital copies of their journals or at least that's their intention. I don't think they should throw them away, who knows if those files might become corrupt or if they can't find a computer or power for that matter. Having both hard copies and digital copies would be the best bet to document their story/progress.

However, since they do have digital copies, maybe Michael survived and is writing a book about their story in a post-"zombie" world entitled "We're Alive". Just an idea XD.

5:23 - 5:26/21:19 [Michael] - "She couldn't have seen who did it!"



5:44/21:19 Kelly comes into the conversation right?

[Ra1th]

Are they just keeping the journals on hard drives?they aren't very stable

[Kn1ckerb0cker33]

Are they just keeping the journals on hard drives?they aren't very stable

Maybe. Any digital copy, even flash drives can be corrupt from time to time so if I were them I wouldn't put my eggs in one basket. I'd keep the hard copies.

[Th3_T3ch]

6:20 - 6:26/21:19 [Angel] - "Datu says he and Kalani were together the whole time they left before anything happened."

Kalani was talking to Michael a short time before the alarm went off, he also had to have passed by the guard room (or at least the floor it was on) before leaving. He didn't have to run far for this to work, but this episode has shown that Kalani does know his helicopters.

[AdrianHD]

You are entitled to your opinion, but as everyone who posts on this forum eventually learns, opinions can be wrong, especially with KC at the helm. =P Trust me, I've been wrong about a couple of things already, but I have gotten some stuff right.

Also, do have definitive proof that it wasn't Kelly?

I went back and re-listened. I thought it was Kelly the first time around, not so much this time. She has an alibi during the party. Considering she was the one that wanted to party, she was having a good time flirting on every guy, and she's the one who started to throw furniture at the Mallers, I don't see her as the rat.

[Kn1ckerb0cker33]

Kalani was talking to Michael a short time before the alarm went off, he also had to have passed by the guard room (or at least the floor it was on) before leaving. He didn't have to run far for this to work, but this episode has shown that Kalani does know his helicopters.

2:11-3:56/21:19 (Time from which Kalani leaves the room to when the Alarm sounds [1 minute, 45 seconds])

Hmm, I have my doubts about Kalani being fast enough to do this, remember he is Chubs McGee (he's fat). Also Datu doesn't seem the type to lie about Kalani being with him the whole time before the alarm sounded. I don't see a motive for either two to assassinate Pippin or to be the rat as it is in their best interest to keep the tower safe.

I went back and re-listened. I thought it was Kelly the first time around, not so much this time. She has an alibi during the party. Considering she was the one that wanted to party, she was having a good time flirting on every guy, and she's the one who started to throw furniture at the Mallers, I don't see her as the rat.

True. But it still doesn't prove she isn't the rat/former rat. Still could be someone else, but we'll have to wait to see who it is.