Chapter 22 - "Our Doubts Are Traitors" - Part 1

[Rock Daddy]

Colonel Mustard: *after peaking his head into a room* Just checking!

Miss Scarlett: Everything all right?

Colonel Mustard: Yup. Two Corpses. Everything's fine.

(Just swap Mustard/Scarlett with Michael and Pegs )

Love that movie. "I'm the butler. I buttle sir."

[Blush]

I don't think Steven's the shooter. He just seems too obvious a choice.
I think having him refuse to work guard duty - which automatically set off some alarm bells - was an attempt to mislead us.

[zombiederek]

If it were Richard, I would feel completely cheated. It wouldn't be fair because he was an out-of-left-field character. I don't want my respect for the main characters that I think I know to be reserved. I want my trust in them to be shattered in the most brutal way!

I think I miss-quoted his name I believe its Steven. I was so excited to start posting after this episode I simply forgot his name! lol It would make a lot of sense for it to be him. He's been there the whole time we just haven't heard much from him until now. I really don't think it would make sense for a character like Kelly, or Angel to be a traitor because of all that they have done for the tower already. We all remember how freaked out Kelly was once she tried to leave the Tower the first time so I don't think that she would be too keen to have the Tower taken down, especially by a bunch of murderous criminals. And Burt, as well as Michael, Angel, Saul and even Datu have too much integrity for a betrayal of this magnitude. I would even go so far as to say that it would seriously hurt the overall story if one of these characters happened to be the traitor. I would accept one of their deaths with a heavy heart, but I could never believe that one of them would ever have it in them to betray their friends and those they brought in to protect. A character like Steven however, has no real moral compass, as we saw with the Lizzy incident. At one point it appeared that he even wanted to take over as leader until he was put in his place by Burt. It would make sense that he would be scared enough to talk to the Mallers and strike a deal with them to benefit his own needs. I also believe that Pippin was not working with the Mallers, but was in fact a living signal to Steven as a way to let him know that his strike was to begin.

[Jeebogs]

I think that the obvious choice is to put the gun in Steven's hands. But that's just it, it seems too easy. Too obvious.

[mush_rooms]

Love that movie. "I'm the butler. I buttle sir."

I also love this movie, dearly in fact. If there were an episode like THAT...oh man. Lol.

There are two plot templates in movies/books/etc that I will never tire of...murder mysteries and elaborate heists. If there is ever a heist episode in We're Alive then life will be complete.

[cupcakezombie]

Can anyone fill in the Datu timeline? I feel like we are missing something there. He was reported to be on the roof, downstairs getting tools, and then supposed to be on the road. If they were on the road, how long do we think they had been out? Is it just that Michael forgot where he was when he sent Steven up to find him? I am re-listening now myself, so will probably have the answer in a few, but think that it is worth putting here.
Thanks

[zombiederek]

Can anyone fill in the Datu timeline? I feel like we are missing something there. He was reported to be on the roof, downstairs getting tools, and then supposed to be on the road. If they were on the road, how long do we think they had been out? Is it just that Michael forgot where he was when he sent Steven up to find him? I am re-listening now myself, so will probably have the answer in a few, but think that it is worth putting here.
Thanks

There's no way that it was Datu. His love for Samantha would keep him from harming Hope, and it sounds like the shooter put one in her forehead, by how it sounded like it was one shot and then a body hit the floor. Besides, Angel knew where he was anyway as he corrected Michael on his whereabouts. The only person who can be unaccounted for at the time of the shooting is Steven.

[Dameon1213]

Listen to the episode's end again, the pistol is silenced, i don't think the shooting is bad, nor do i think Pippin is truly bad, there was a theory saying he was an assassin, and i didn't think of it at first but now i get it, he is there to kill the traitor, why? Because he is no longer of use to the mallers, i think that when Burt realized "the nest" was not going respond, he ran as quickly as they could back to the tower, seeing the situation, i think it was Burt who shot. like i said the pistol was suppressed and last i checked, they only have one, unless K.C infers that when they went back to Burt's shop, he had more suppressors. Also if that is not true, i think that they had more then on suppressor, and Steven shot Pippin knowing why he was there and who sent him.

[StickUpKid]

I dont know if anyone said this didnt read all 16 pages but maybe:

1.Its victor he may have the silenced berreta that burt and saul cant find
2.I was thinking durai because they havent mentioned where he is, but how would he get in.
3.Maybe some random person sent to kill pippen didnt know hope was blind gatted her down to (if thats what it was)
4.The rat killed pippin so as not to get his cover blown

Did the shooter run away afterwards? i thought i heard footsteps

[mush_rooms]

Can anyone fill in the Datu timeline? I feel like we are missing something there. He was reported to be on the roof, downstairs getting tools, and then supposed to be on the road. If they were on the road, how long do we think they had been out? Is it just that Michael forgot where he was when he sent Steven up to find him? I am re-listening now myself, so will probably have the answer in a few, but think that it is worth putting here.
Thanks

I'm pretty certain that the shooting incident took place awhile after Datu and Kalani had already left. Remember, things don't always occur in chronological order, and the pauses between "segments" could indicate several hours instead of the few seconds that we get. I think it's safe to say Datu and Kalani are in the clear, since the radio trouble with the tower was noticed AFTER D & K told Burt they were on their way.